Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts from 8.10

2011-08-26 Thread Leszek Lesner
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 2011/8/26 Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset jpx...@gmail.com:
  Hi people.
  Has any one tried an old ubuntu lately? lets say for example 8.10? Its
  damn fast!
 
  I'm just saying: this old OS works very fast, and I really don't know
  why... but maybe the Lubuntu devs could have an explanation for it and
  maybe improve Lubuntu this way.
  
 
 Agree, bloatkernel, bloatdrivers, bloatwares... this is what is
 supposed to make linux more 'user-friendly', although being OS user I
 don't find it quite friendly. On the other hand 8.10 won't fire up on
 my laptop because of missing support for switchable graphics %)
 Just thinking aloud - would it be wise to create an override apt
 profile for lubuntu which will suppress all the 'recommended' and
 'suggested' dependencies by default? After restricting
 /gnome|kde|qt[2-4]/ in apt it is annoying to retype each time
 '--no-install-recommends' after install aborts bcz of missing
 dependencies.
 

RTFM.  There is an apt/preferences flag for that. 
Also this whole conversation is non sense. If you test out ubuntu 5.04 or even 
Debian 2.0 it would be lightning fast even with KDE. 
But remember back then linux supported lesser hardware and was not intended to 
run on hardware that we normally have today (Dual/Quad-Cores). Also remember 
old Operating Systems might run fast but don't support modern technologies or 
hardware. Try to stick an USB Thumbdrive in a DOS machine.
Lubuntu takes a very far approach in supporting good old hardware which is 
about 15 years old whithout loosing modern technologies (3G, Wifi, Bluetooth, 
Powermanagement)
The the ones speaking of 
bloatkernel, bloatdrivers
Have you ever looked at the Kernelcode or done tests on the Kernel ?
Lets take for example audio latency. For years you had to patch the kernel for 
realtime audio with jack and ardour.
Nowadays it isn't necessary for the amateur audio editor as the kernel even 
without the realtime patches is nearly as fast as with them.

The Kernel has become bigger but performance wise it is nearly as fast as it 
was before if not even a little faster.
All in all stop those non sense posting comparing an ancient Linux Distribution 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts from 8.10

2011-08-26 Thread Ruslan N. Marchenko
2011/8/26 Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de:
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 RTFM. There is an apt/preferences flag for that.

That's exactly what I mean. I.e. not to RTFM but rather to include
this flag as an override profile for apt in lubuntu. Otherwise it
draws to much rubbish with different packages, since most 'recommends'
are bound to default gnome env. for gtk apps.

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Looking forward to reading yours.
     Ruslan N. Marchenko

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts from 8.10

2011-08-25 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset
Hi people.
Has any one tried an old ubuntu lately? lets say for example 8.10? Its damn
fast!
Don't understand why from there (here in my case) Ubuntu is demanding so
many resources... i imagine 8.10 versioned as Lubuntu: it would be
awesome!
For starts, the theme (Human) renders very fast and apps open quite fast
too: there's the old add/remove applications that renders quite well too
(maybe its worth a look at the code for LSC?) and in general it behaves
quite smooth.
I'm just saying: this old OS works very fast, and I really don't know why...
but maybe the Lubuntu devs could have an explanation for it and maybe
improve Lubuntu this way.

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