Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 23.09.2010 16:49, schrieb Bob Trevithick:
>> Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the current
>> Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the Menu, add a
>> couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I need, and I should
>> look at "remastering" the ISO from the customized, running USB key.
>> 
> I'm quite a bit over my head here, compared to the others, but if
> you're running on a read/write USB device, why can't you add and
> remove packages like you normally would on any other disk?   Just a
> thought. :)
>   
A live usb stick runs from a highly compressed read only image
(filesystem.squashfs) stored on a rewritable fat partition.
So you can write changes to the fat portion of the usb stick but not to
the highly compressed image.
> Regards,
> Bob
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 23.09.2010 16:44, schrieb Gilles:
> At 16:30 23/09/2010, Goh Lip wrote:
>> But just to add or elaborate, what I did was to install Lubuntu like
>> to a hard disk but it is to a usb stick instead. That's the whole
>> explanation. The advantages are that, of course, there is no need for
>> persistent or casper-rw, and things should process faster. There
>> might be some things to watch out for, like setting grub to hard disk
>> instead of to the usb stick, as some have found out.
>
> Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the
> current Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the
> Menu, add a couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I
> need, and I should look at "remastering" the ISO from the customized,
> running USB key.
>
>> Normally, at every kernel change, the system will, besides updating
>> the grub menu or grub.cfg, it will create both the  initrd and
>> syslink and /vmlinuz and syslink to /root. However, until recently, I
>> noticed Lubuntu was not doing this, as compared to ubuntu and
>> kubuntu. Also even if it does this now, we had to take care that it
>> is done to the casper directory instead and named properly, as Leszek
>> has just pointed out to me just now.
>
> BTW, does someone know exactly how initrd.(gz|lz) is built? Am I
> correct in thinking it's just grabbing everything in /lib/modules/ and
> compressing them in a single file?
Its grabbing the modules it needs plus the init script
(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/) and for livecds also the casper scripts.
(/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts & /usr/share/capser)  

>
> Thank you.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Goh Lip 

On Thursday 23,September,2010 10:30 PM, Goh Lip wrote:

Giles, if you need further information, please let us know.

Ah, I've found an old post that might help...


http://www.mail-archive.com/lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net/msg01347.html



Regards - Goh Lip


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Goh Lip 

On Thursday 23,September,2010 10:44 PM, Gilles wrote:

Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the
current Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the
Menu, add a couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I need,
and I should look at "remastering" the ISO from the customized, running
USB key.


Gilles, when you boot up the live Lubuntu, at the desktop, there is an 
icon that asks whether you want to install to hard disk. What I did was 
to proceed but chose to install to a usb stick, that is all.

(But if you run the live off a usb, you need another usb to install to)



BTW, does someone know exactly how initrd.(gz|lz) is built? Am I correct
in thinking it's just grabbing everything in /lib/modules/ and
compressing them in a single file?


That, is too technical for me, and I wouldn't know, sorry.  :)


Regards - Goh Lip

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Bob Trevithick 
> Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the current
> Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the Menu, add a
> couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I need, and I should
> look at "remastering" the ISO from the customized, running USB key.

I'm quite a bit over my head here, compared to the others, but if
you're running on a read/write USB device, why can't you add and
remove packages like you normally would on any other disk?   Just a
thought. :)

Regards,
Bob

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Gilles 

At 16:30 23/09/2010, Goh Lip wrote:
But just to add or elaborate, what I did was to install Lubuntu like 
to a hard disk but it is to a usb stick instead. That's the whole 
explanation. The advantages are that, of course, there is no need 
for persistent or casper-rw, and things should process faster. There 
might be some things to watch out for, like setting grub to hard 
disk instead of to the usb stick, as some have found out.


Sounds good. However, the image that is sent to the USB key is the 
current Lubuntu ISO, while I need to remove most of the items in the 
Menu, add a couple of applications, so I guess this is not what I 
need, and I should look at "remastering" the ISO from the customized, 
running USB key.


Normally, at every kernel change, the system will, besides updating 
the grub menu or grub.cfg, it will create both the  initrd and 
syslink and /vmlinuz and syslink to /root. However, until recently, 
I noticed Lubuntu was not doing this, as compared to ubuntu and 
kubuntu. Also even if it does this now, we had to take care that it 
is done to the casper directory instead and named properly, as 
Leszek has just pointed out to me just now.


BTW, does someone know exactly how initrd.(gz|lz) is built? Am I 
correct in thinking it's just grabbing everything in /lib/modules/ 
and compressing them in a single file?


Thank you. 



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Goh Lip 

On Thursday 23,September,2010 10:14 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:

>  What does "update-initramfs -u"?

It updates or recreates the initrd.


Sorry, missed this one point..
Normally, at every kernel change, the system will, besides updating the 
grub menu or grub.cfg, it will create both the  initrd and syslink and 
/vmlinuz and syslink to /root.


However, until recently, I noticed Lubuntu was not doing this, as 
compared to ubuntu and kubuntu. Also even if it does this now, we had to 
take care that it is done to the casper directory instead and named 
properly, as Leszek has just pointed out to me just now.


Hope this helps.

Regards - Goh Lip

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Goh Lip 

On Thursday 23,September,2010 10:01 PM, Gilles wrote:

Hopefully there is no need to do a update-initramfs -u, but I'll watch
out for it.


What does "update-initramfs -u"?


Wonderful, you gave me an idea. I'll have to give it a try next time.
- My Lubuntu is a 'real install' on a usb stick, but I am not
complaining! It is far far better than a live stick.


What's a "real install on a USB stick", and how does it differ from a
"live stick"? Do you mean that the former is persistent, while the
latter is the default ISO image?

BTW, instead of making the USB key persistent, I'm really looking at how
to boot with the current image, perform apt-get to add/update/remove
packages, save this running instance into an external ISO, so that I can
flash a bunch of USB keys with all my users need. Does someone have
information on how to do this with Lubuntu?


Leszek has replied to you better than I can and I am glad he did.
But just to add or elaborate, what I did was to install Lubuntu like to 
a hard disk but it is to a usb stick instead. That's the whole explanation.


The advantages are that, of course, there is no need for persistent or 
casper-rw, and things should process faster. There might be some things 
to watch out for, like setting grub to hard disk instead of to the usb 
stick, as some have found out.


And as your last paragraph puts it, that's exactly it, but correcting 
your word, it is not into an external ISO.


Giles, if you need further information, please let us know.

Regards - Goh Lip





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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 23.09.2010 16:01, schrieb Gilles:
> At 15:46 23/09/2010, Goh Lip wrote:
>> Hopefully there is no need to do a update-initramfs -u, but I'll
>> watch out for it.
>
> What does "update-initramfs -u"?
It updates or recreates the initrd.
>
>> Wonderful, you gave me an idea. I'll have to give it a try next
>> time.  - My Lubuntu is a 'real install' on a usb stick, but I am not
>> complaining! It is far far better than a live stick.
>
> What's a "real install on a USB stick", and how does it differ from a
> "live stick"? Do you mean that the former is persistent, while the
> latter is the default ISO image?
Real Install is the same as installing on harddrive. So after installing
you can work like on a "real" system with your own username and
configurations saved to usb stick. The root partition is mounted rw and
not compressed. In contrast to this a  Live Stick means running a live
system mounted on a read only compressed squashfs image which only
allows to save changes via a seperate rw filesystem.  
>
> BTW, instead of making the USB key persistent, I'm really looking at
> how to boot with the current image, perform apt-get to
> add/update/remove packages, save this running instance into an
> external ISO, so that I can flash a bunch of USB keys with all my
> users need. Does someone have information on how to do this with Lubuntu?
This is called remastering (rebuilding the ISO with customized apps).
Try to search something on the net there are thousands of tutorials.
I might also do a quick video tutorial in my next Lubuntu Screencast if
you whish .
>
> Thank you. 
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Gilles 

At 15:46 23/09/2010, Goh Lip wrote:
Hopefully there is no need to do a update-initramfs -u, but I'll 
watch out for it.


What does "update-initramfs -u"?

Wonderful, you gave me an idea. I'll have to give it a try next 
time.  - My Lubuntu is a 'real install' on a usb stick, but I am not 
complaining! It is far far better than a live stick.


What's a "real install on a USB stick", and how does it differ from a 
"live stick"? Do you mean that the former is persistent, while the 
latter is the default ISO image?


BTW, instead of making the USB key persistent, I'm really looking at 
how to boot with the current image, perform apt-get to 
add/update/remove packages, save this running instance into an 
external ISO, so that I can flash a bunch of USB keys with all my 
users need. Does someone have information on how to do this with Lubuntu?


Thank you.  



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Goh Lip 

On Thursday 23,September,2010 09:36 PM, Gilles wrote:

Apparently, the kernel (vmlinuz + possibly initrd.(lz/gz)) live outside
the live root file system filesystem.squashfs, so must be copied
manually in \casper after mounting the USB key in the running Lubuntu.

I'd also like to know if the persistence described above does save all
the changes made through apt-get, or just configuration files in /etc.


I sent a message without receiving your message yet. Yes, you're right, 
it does live outside, in the casper directory. And from my (limited) 
experience with casper, casper-rw and persistent, so far all changes 
I've made stick (keeps), including applications, settings and so far 
with the main exception of kernel changes, and that to me is an 
important one, so I did not use this live booting except to test out new 
alpha versions of kubuntu.


But I've found Lubuntu to an excellent OS to boot direct from a usb, 
unlike say, Ubuntu Netbook Remix and even the smaller distros like Puppy 
or DSL. So I am typing this from a 'direct install' of Lubuntu from a 
usb stick even when I have Kubuntu and others on the hard disk. I'm 
loving it!


Regards - Gph Lip


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Goh Lip 

On Thursday 23,September,2010 09:29 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:

Kernel changes will be also changed but only in the persistency file.
As the bootloader normaly searches for a vmlinuz and initrd on the fat32
portion of a usb stick, you need to replace the old vmlinuz and initrd
files on your usb sticks casper directory.


Thanks, Leszek, no wonder kernel changes didn't work for me in the past. 
Er, maybe I have to also rename initrd.img to initrd.lz, and move to the 
casper directory? Hopefully there is no need to do a update-initramfs 
-u, but I'll watch out for it.


Wonderful, you gave me an idea. I'll have to give it a try next time.  - 
My Lubuntu is a 'real install' on a usb stick, but I am not complaining! 
It is far far better than a live stick.


Thanks and regards - Goh Lip

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Gilles 

At 15:23 23/09/2010, Goh Lip wrote:
How about kernel upgrades (as in 2.6.35-22-generic from 
2.6.35-21-generic), does that keep that too? If not, how to endure 
it does or at least how to make sure the new kernel boots up the next time?


Apparently, the kernel (vmlinuz + possibly initrd.(lz/gz)) live 
outside the live root file system filesystem.squashfs, so must be 
copied manually in \casper after mounting the USB key in the running Lubuntu.


I'd also like to know if the persistence described above does save 
all the changes made through apt-get, or just configuration files in /etc.


Thank you. 



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 23.09.2010 15:23, schrieb Goh Lip:
> On Thursday 23,September,2010 08:55 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:
>> Persistency(with casper-rw) will save all the changes to files comparing
>> with the live system data. So applications that you installed later with
>> apt-get and even configuration files you created in your home folder.
>
> How about kernel upgrades (as in 2.6.35-22-generic from
> 2.6.35-21-generic), does that keep that too? If not, how to endure it
> does or at least how to make sure the new kernel boots up the next time?

Kernel changes will be also changed but only in the persistency file.
As the bootloader normaly searches for a vmlinuz and initrd on the fat32
portion of a usb stick, you need to replace the old vmlinuz and initrd
files on your usb sticks casper directory.
>
> Regards - Goh Lip
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Goh Lip 

On Thursday 23,September,2010 08:55 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote:

Persistency(with casper-rw) will save all the changes to files comparing
with the live system data. So applications that you installed later with
apt-get and even configuration files you created in your home folder.


How about kernel upgrades (as in 2.6.35-22-generic from 
2.6.35-21-generic), does that keep that too? If not, how to endure it 
does or at least how to make sure the new kernel boots up the next time?


Regards - Goh Lip


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-23 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 22.09.2010 23:34, schrieb Gilles:
> At 23:21 22/09/2010, Leszek Lesner wrote:
> Here are commands summed up.
>
>> 1. DD (2GB Persistency Image):
>>  dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw bs=1024
>> count=2000
>> 2. Format the persistent image
>>  mkfs.ext2 /media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw
>> 3. Add persistent to your bootoptions
>> 4. Reboot
>
> Thanks again. I'll try that tomorrow morning and report back.
>
> Out of curiosity, what does Linux save in this second partition, used
> for persistence between reboots? Is it just a symlink to /etc?
> I currently use a 1GB stick, so I was thinking of booting Linux from
> the hard-disk/CD, shrink the current Linux on the USB stick to make
> room for the persistent partition, and create/format a 200MB ext2
> partition for persistent data.
Persistency(with casper-rw) will save all the changes to files comparing
with the live system data. So applications that you installed later with
apt-get and even configuration files you created in your home folder.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilles 

At 23:21 22/09/2010, Leszek Lesner wrote:
Here are commands summed up.


1. DD (2GB Persistency Image):
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw bs=1024 count=2000
2. Format the persistent image
 mkfs.ext2 /media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw
3. Add persistent to your bootoptions
4. Reboot


Thanks again. I'll try that tomorrow morning and report back.

Out of curiosity, what does Linux save in this second partition, used 
for persistence between reboots? Is it just a symlink to /etc?
I currently use a 1GB stick, so I was thinking of booting Linux from 
the hard-disk/CD, shrink the current Linux on the USB stick to make 
room for the persistent partition, and create/format a 200MB ext2 
partition for persistent data. 



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 22.09.2010 22:11, schrieb Gilles:
> At 21:10 22/09/2010, Leszek Lesner wrote:
>> Try adding console-setup/layoutcode=fr aswell to the boot options
>
> Thanks a lot, it worked :-)
>
> To sum up, here's what I appended to \\USB\syslinux\text.cfg:
>
> locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr klayout=fr console-setup/layoutcode=fr
>
> One more question related to the UI: Since I still don't know how to
> make this USB key persistent, I also need to configure the boot
> options so that X starts in 1024x...@75hz, ie. the equivalent of
> running this once X is up and running:
>
> xrandr -s 1024x768 -r 75
As Xorg uses autodetection I think it isn't possible without an
persistent usb stick.
For enabling persitency with a file on a fat32 formatted stick you need
to create a file with dd with you preffered persistent file size and
then simply format this with ext2/3 or 4 or whatever filesystem you
like. Rename the file to casper-rw and add "persistence" to your boot
options.
Alternatively you can resize the fat32 portion of your filesystem on
your stick and add a ext2/3 or 4 formatted filesystem to it with the
label casper-rw to enable full persistency. For only activate
persistency for your home directory (this wouldn't solve your xorg
resolution problem though) replace casper-rw with home-rw.

Here are commands summed up.

1. DD (2GB Persistency Image):
 dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw bs=1024
count=2000
2. Format the persistent image
 mkfs.ext2 /media/your_path_to_usbstick/casper-rw
3. Add persistent to your bootoptions
4. Reboot

Hope this helps you :)

>
> Does someone know how to do this?
>
> Thank you.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilles 

At 21:10 22/09/2010, Leszek Lesner wrote:

Try adding console-setup/layoutcode=fr aswell to the boot options


Thanks a lot, it worked :-)

To sum up, here's what I appended to \\USB\syslinux\text.cfg:

locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr klayout=fr console-setup/layoutcode=fr

One more question related to the UI: Since I still don't know how to 
make this USB key persistent, I also need to configure the boot 
options so that X starts in 1024x...@75hz, ie. the equivalent of 
running this once X is up and running:


xrandr -s 1024x768 -r 75

Does someone know how to do this?

Thank you. 



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 22.09.2010 19:51, schrieb Gilles:
> At 19:05 22/09/2010, Gilles wrote:
>> Oops, spoke too soon: The UI does start in French, but the keyboard
>> is US :-/
Try adding console-setup/layoutcode=fr aswell to the boot options. It
works here with a german keyboard layout and Lubuntu 10.04.
Lubuntu 10.10 Beta 1 has still a bug (upstream actually) that doesn't
change the xorg keyboard layout. You can set it to french by either
using my tool called lxkeymap (see lxkeymap thread on the mailinglist)
or by typing in "setxkbmap fr" in a terminal.
>
> Incidently, when I open a terminal console, "su -" to root, and type
> "loadkeys fr", it says nothing but doesn't change to FR.
>
> I checked the wiki, but it was no help solving the issue:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/LanguageSupport
>
>
> Does someone know what the procedure is to install a different locale
> in Lubuntu so that it'll work in both Xorg and in command-line apps?
>
> Here's a screenshot of the Language dialog: Since French is listed
> first, I would expect the FR keyboard to work. Am I missing some modules?
>
> http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2048/lubuntuchangelocale.png
>
> Thank you. 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilles 

At 19:05 22/09/2010, Gilles wrote:

Oops, spoke too soon: The UI does start in French, but the keyboard is US :-/


Incidently, when I open a terminal console, "su -" to root, and type 
"loadkeys fr", it says nothing but doesn't change to FR.


I checked the wiki, but it was no help solving the issue:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/LanguageSupport

Does someone know what the procedure is to install a different locale 
in Lubuntu so that it'll work in both Xorg and in command-line apps?


Here's a screenshot of the Language dialog: Since French is listed 
first, I would expect the FR keyboard to work. Am I missing some modules?


http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/2048/lubuntuchangelocale.png

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilles 

At 18:45 22/09/2010, Gilles wrote:
For those interested, you just need to update the following file in 
the USB key once Lubuntu has been installed one it (using PenDrive 
Universal Installer, in this case):


\\USBKey\syslinux\text.cfg

default live
label live
  menu label ^Run Lubuntu from this USB
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  # Appended locale for FR
  append noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent 
file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper 
initrd=/casper/initrd.lz splash -- locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr klayout=fr


Oops, spoke too soon: The UI does start in French, but the keyboard is US :-/

Just to check, I also change the following section, to no avail:

label live
  menu label ^Run Lubuntu from this USB
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent 
file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz 
splash -- locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr klayout=fr

label live-install
  menu label ^Install Lubuntu to Hard Disk
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  append cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent 
file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper only-ubiquity 
initrd=/casper/initrd.lz splash -- locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr klayout=fr


Any idea why? Could it be that the stock Lubuntu ISO only contains US 
locale, so that using a different locale won't work until I know how 
to boot from the ISO, upgrade it, save the running system into a new 
ISO, and reflash the USB key?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilles 

At 16:56 22/09/2010, Quynh Vu Do wrote:
I am not sure for the file to be modified and I'm not sure you can 
do it for a live USB, only if your USB key has been installed with 
Lubuntu, as in a live USB, the file system is a special file that 
can't be modified (like if it were on a CD). If you have a live USB 
with a persistent file, then you may apply arguments for the boot

options which will be saved in the persistent file.


Thanks for the tip. Currently, I'm using the default ISO, with no persistence.

For those interested, you just need to update the following file in 
the USB key once Lubuntu has been installed one it (using PenDrive 
Universal Installer, in this case):


\\USBKey\syslinux\text.cfg

default live
label live
  menu label ^Run Lubuntu from this USB
  kernel /casper/vmlinuz
  # Appended locale for FR
  append noprompt cdrom-detect/try-usb=true persistent 
file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed boot=casper initrd=/casper/initrd.lz 
splash -- locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr klayout=fr


Anyway, if you have a persistent file on your USB key with enough 
space, you may install the French language and put French as a 
priority, select FR keyboard in the preferences, etc. then the 
following time you'll boot from this live USB it should remember 
your last settings and boot you to a French Desktop with French keyboard.


Good to know. BTW, if I manage to add persistence to the Lubuntu USB 
key, will "apt-get update/install/remove" stick to the key?


Alternatively, is there an up-to-date document that explains how to 
save an upgraded, running live Lubuntu into an ISO file, so that I 
can re-use it to flash a bunch of USB keys, and avoid install/remove 
each USB key before handing it out to users?


I know about this document, but it's for Ubuntu, and it's for 9.10:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-22 Thread Gilles 

At 04:04 21/09/2010, Quynh Vu Do wrote:
You should ensure that French language has been installed : Go to 
the Menu System > Administration and Language Support, then click on 
Remove/Install language and verify that French is installed. If not install it.


Thanks for the tip, but I'm running Lubuntu of a USB key: Which files 
should I modify on the key to append "locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr 
klayout=fr" to the boot command so that at the next reboot, the user 
will be using a French UI + keyboard without having to do anything?


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-20 Thread Leszek Lesner 
Am 20.09.2010 15:31, schrieb Gilles:
> At 15:08 20/09/2010, Yorvyk wrote:
>> Lubuntu, like all variations of Ubuntu/Debian, can support any
>> written language on the planet and at least one not from earth,
>> Klingon :) How complete the translations are varies, but, French
>> appears to be quite complete.
>
> Thanks guys for the confirmation.
>
> Using the Windows utility PendriveLinux Universal USB Installer, I
> successfully burned Lubuntu on a USB key and booted a test host with it.
>
> However, I can't get to choose the language for UI + keyboard: The
> "Advanced Options" menu is empty.
>
> Also, ideally, I'd rather the user didn't have to do anything, and
> Lubuntu would just start in French. Asking them to append some switch
> to the boot command-line won't do it.

Appending this bootoptions should work:  locale=fr_FR.UTF-8 keyb=fr
klayout=fr
Btw. for a french keyboard layout there is still lxkeymap avaiable that
allows you to switch your keymap after booting. (see the lxkeymap thread)
Language can be also configured and switched after booting with the
language setup tool in preferences.

>
> Thank you.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-20 Thread Gilles 

At 15:08 20/09/2010, Yorvyk wrote:
Lubuntu, like all variations of Ubuntu/Debian, can support any 
written language on the planet and at least one not from earth, 
Klingon :) How complete the translations are varies, but, French 
appears to be quite complete.


Thanks guys for the confirmation.

Using the Windows utility PendriveLinux Universal USB Installer, I 
successfully burned Lubuntu on a USB key and booted a test host with it.


However, I can't get to choose the language for UI + keyboard: The 
"Advanced Options" menu is empty.


Also, ideally, I'd rather the user didn't have to do anything, and 
Lubuntu would just start in French. Asking them to append some switch 
to the boot command-line won't do it.


Thank you. 



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-20 Thread Yorvyk 
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:11:51 +0200
Gilles  wrote:

> Hello
> 
> I'm looking for a small Linux distribution that I can use as basis to 
> add a few applications and device drivers before dumping the whole 
> thing into an ISO and burn USB keys.
> 
> The top-item in the check-list is whether the distro supports European 
> languages in addition to English. Does Lubuntu support this? I didn't 
> find this information in the homepage.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
Lubuntu, like all variations of Ubuntu/Debian, can support any written language 
on the planet and at least one not from earth, Klingon :)
How complete the translations are varies, but, French appears to be quite 
complete.

-- 
Steve Cook (Yorvyk)

http://lubuntu.net 

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[Lubuntu-desktop] UI in French?

2010-09-20 Thread Gilles 

Hello

I'm looking for a small Linux distribution that I can use as basis to 
add a few applications and device drivers before dumping the whole 
thing into an ISO and burn USB keys.


The top-item in the check-list is whether the distro supports Europen 
languages in addition to English. Does Lubuntu support this? I didn't 
find this information in the homepage.


Thank you.


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