Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: Glad you have your Lubuntu back. That was a neat trick (remove nvidia-current) and may I refer your method to some guys at ubuntu having the same problem, (gpl v2 licence ? :) ) Of course. Without lists and forums, I think I would have given up on computers a long time ago. Curiously, I don't have this problem with Kubuntu Maverick, maybe the 64 bit xserver was sorted okay. There is a launchpad bug report on this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/616023 Interesting. All three of my installs (Lu, Xu, and U) are 64-bit. I did today's update in Xubuntu and now printing is broken. More alpha fun! I think I'll postpone my update to my Ubuntu Minimal CD install to be sure I have a fully functional system. Lane ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
To all, not withstanding Lane and I got our Lubuntu Maverick working, please take note of the following post from the Ubuntu list You are going to have to use nouveau for now, the proprietary nvidia-96 and nvidia-173 drivers do not work with xserver 1.9 and most likely will not until right before release. 256.44 that is in ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates does work for the GPU's it supports with IgnoreABI added to the serverflags section in your xorg.conf but the older releases don't. If you want accelerated 3D (for compiz) with nouveau you can install the libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental package if you are using the mesa 7.8 that is in maverick. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 is the proper place to report the problem, we can't do anything about it with the binary drivers. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=153963 From AaronP (the nVidia guy that helps/supports Ubuntu): quote Re: X server 1.9 crash with 173.14.27 Prerelease and release candidate X servers are not officially supported. In addition, Keith just declared the ABI in the upcoming xserver 1.9 series as frozen, so support will be coming soon in a future version of the current release series, but support in the legacy drivers is not considered a particularly high priority so don't expect it any time soon. /quote So please watch out. Regards - Goh Lip ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: I think, but I am not quite sure, startx for lxde is startlxde Well, I didn't get a chance to find out. I did another apt-get update/upgrade, like I did yesterday, and this time I also ran: aptitude remove nvidia-current (after installing aptitude) It removed 80-something files, including openoffice, linux-headers, fonts, etc. I thought I was going to end up with a dead install. But no, the normal boot went normally! I'm composing this email in Lubuntu. With no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I don't know what driver is working. Is there a way to tell? I don't play any games, so I don't know if there's an advantage to my running nvidia-current or not. Lane ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
On Friday 13,August,2010 12:54 AM, Lane Lester wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com mailto:g@gmx.com wrote: I think, but I am not quite sure, startx for lxde is startlxde Well, I didn't get a chance to find out. I did another apt-get update/upgrade, like I did yesterday, and this time I also ran: aptitude remove nvidia-current (after installing aptitude) It removed 80-something files, including openoffice, linux-headers, fonts, etc. I thought I was going to end up with a dead install. But no, the normal boot went normally! I'm composing this email in Lubuntu. With no /etc/X11/xorg.conf, I don't know what driver is working. Is there a way to tell? I don't play any games, so I don't know if there's an advantage to my running nvidia-current or not. Lane Glad you have your Lubuntu back. That was a neat trick (remove nvidia-current) and may I refer your method to some guys at ubuntu having the same problem, (gpl v2 licence ? :) ) Curiously, I don't have this problem with Kubuntu Maverick, maybe the 64 bit xserver was sorted okay. There is a launchpad bug report on this. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/616023 And no, I don't know how we can check what driver you are using, with no xorg.conf; maybe others on the list can help. Regards and take care - Goh Lip -- ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: But but but.. sputter, fume.. I *did* follow the warnings. :-) I thought. Live and learn. The only warnings I saw were, Your system may break. So you either didn't do the upgrades and your system didn't break, or you did the upgrades and maybe your system broke. Already got the /home thing covered, I think. I use symbolic links for the apps I care about, and let the rest of /home get over-written during each install. I don't use the symlinks, but I copy parts of my home folder to separate OS partitions. I also have a separate /opt partition. I currently have Mavericks of Lubuntu (now broken), Xubuntu, and Ubuntu Minimal CD. I'm leaving the latter two unupgraded until an upgrade fixes my Lubuntu install. Lane ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
There are some solutions now being offered on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549195 for those still having problems. Regards, Phill. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: The only warnings I saw were, Your system may break. So you either didn't do the upgrades and your system didn't break, or you did the upgrades and maybe your system broke. I waited until there was a clear upgrade path, with nothing being held back. And until others on the forums were reporting the problem solved. Unfortunately, the problem seems multi-faceted. I rescued one Lubuntu install by dropping back to Nouveau, but on my Dell Mini-9 there are now multiple things wrong, one of which is that the screen is so dim that I can't read all the error messages. Makes it tough to fix. Even trying a fresh install from a USB, I get the dim screen. (Lucid UNR on another partition works just fine.) I think for the Mini I'll need to look for a grub command I've used before.. acpi_backlight=vendor.. and try the fresh install again. That may give me enough screen brightness to actual be able to work on it. :) Regards, Bob ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Goh Lip g@gmx.com wrote: Lane, latest update of X11-xkb-utils solved this. But of course, it would be no help if one cannot boot in, even to the recovery console, to do the upgrade. So, if you are still having the same problem booting up, append nouveau.modeset=0 to the linux line at grub and boot up to do the upgrade. I booted to the rec con and this time an apt-get -f something fixed the python problem of yesterday. So I was able to do the upgrades that were still waiting. But the boot hung at the same place in the normal boot, so I tried the nouveau.modeset=0 addition to the linux line. I typed Ctrl-X to boot, so I guess that addition was implemented. But it hung at the same place in the normal boot. In the rec con, startx errored out with complaints about a driver (with or without xorg.conf). Maybe I'll try the sudo aptitude remove nvidia-current from the Ubuntu forums... maybe tomorrow. Or maybe I'll just forget about doing anything for a while. Lane ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
Thanks, Bob. Regretfully, that didn't do it for me, but I'm not sure if my problem was nvidia-related. I let Synaptic do the update (90+ packages!), but it errored out with problems updating python packages. I rebooted normally, and it hung after starting cupsd. A repeat did the same. I rebooted with recovery console and renamed xorg.conf. When I tried to remove nvidia-current, I got all these python errors which couldn't be fixed. I didn't see a message that indicated the removal worked. I tried to install nouveau, but got the message the most recent version was already installed. Rebooting hangs at the same place as after the update. I'll try a console upgrade after there's a chance the video is all compatible. Is apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade the right choice? Lane On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Bob Trevithick bob.trevith...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Lane, What I did, after a lot of messing around trying to get things to work, was this: - Log in to recovery console for root with networking - rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf - apt-get remove nvidia-current - apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau - reboot ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] WARNING: X-server breakage coming soon to a computer near you
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote: Heads up for those running Maverick. With the arrival of the new X-server things could go a bit awry, if you are not careful. I’ve already messed one installation up. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549195 -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) Thanks for the warning, Steve! I think I better quit my daily updates for a while to 64-bit Ubuntu, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu. Lane *Lane Lester* The Web Doctor http://www.the-web-doctor.com You can have your own website for just $10+10+10! Click here to visit one of my sites.http://pageswirl.com/rotate.php?user=lanelester ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
