Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Tim Bernhard]

Kendall,

I had a chance two download the new 64-bit* Peppermint Two *image today and
I must say that it looks great!  Seems to be using a little less battery
that One or Ice did.  I'm going to replace the 64-bit Lubuntu build you gave
us with P2 on my Acer 3820 and keep 32-bit Lubuntu on my Acer 1810 until
11.10 is released.

I think both distros are going to be a huge hit.

Tim


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:53 AM, Kendall Weaver wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
> I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
> 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package
> that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing
> it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386
> as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test
> are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows
> system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
> made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones
> used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.
>
> I need to find a way to get this distributed amongst the Lubuntu testers
> and developers. I can stick this up on the Peppermint server probably
> tomorrow sometime or I can throw it in my Dropbox and share it with a couple
> of people (gotta be careful not to max out my available bandwidth though).
> When I figure out how to get this to you guys, it's my hope that you'll take
> it and make it available to everyone who's been wanting a 64 bit Lubuntu for
> all this time. I figured it would be a small thanks to you guys for putting
> together such an excellent distro. Currently I use Lubuntu as the base for
> Peppermint OS and for some of the Linux Mint editions I build.
>
> Just let me know how best to get this to you guys and I'll start uploading.
> If there are any "mission critical" changes that need to be made, I can
> probably step back in and take care of them if necessary. Again, just wanted
> to say thanks.
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Phix]

I torrented the iso and am running it right now from USB, so another
positive test :).
Is there any central repository of working hardware/ hardware testing to
contribute to for the unofficial 64 bit version, or something?

As per the need issue, Ubuntu 11.04 causes my laptop to get very very hot.
Perhaps lubuntu will use less power.

2011/5/13 Tim Bernhard 

>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Jonathan Marsden 
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Agreed, although I'm a little puzzled by it; generally speaking 64bit
>> addressing doesn't get you anything useful until you have 4GB or more
>> of RAM, and most 64bit PC CPUs are multicore; run on that level of PC
>> hardware, the extra overhead of GNOME or Xfce is really not all that
>> noticeable/bad, IMO.  .
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>
> It's because some people prefer a lightweight system with a simple UI.  I
> use Lubuntu because it consumes between 1-2 watts less power than the last
> version of Ubuntu I used.  As a result, I can get around 8 hours of battery
> life out of my dual-core 11.6" laptop with wifi on, listening to music while
> surfing the web.  But I also do a little java/grails development and I want
> to use a 64-bit IDE.  I think Lubuntu has a lot to offer anyone, not just
> people with low powered machines.  That's why there is interest in 64-bit.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Tim Bernhard]

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote:

>

> Agreed, although I'm a little puzzled by it; generally speaking 64bit
> addressing doesn't get you anything useful until you have 4GB or more
> of RAM, and most 64bit PC CPUs are multicore; run on that level of PC
> hardware, the extra overhead of GNOME or Xfce is really not all that
> noticeable/bad, IMO.  .
>
> Jonathan
>

It's because some people prefer a lightweight system with a simple UI.  I
use Lubuntu because it consumes between 1-2 watts less power than the last
version of Ubuntu I used.  As a result, I can get around 8 hours of battery
life out of my dual-core 11.6" laptop with wifi on, listening to music while
surfing the web.  But I also do a little java/grails development and I want
to use a 64-bit IDE.  I think Lubuntu has a lot to offer anyone, not just
people with low powered machines.  That's why there is interest in 64-bit.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Jonathan Marsden]

On Thu, 12 May 2011 Kendall Weaver  wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting to see the differences between the
> way things are done here at Lubuntu versus other projects I maintain or
> contribute to (in addition to Peppermint, I also build the Linux Mint LXDE
> and Fluxbox editions). At Peppermint, all testing and developer
> collaboration is very locked down ...

While it can have its downside too, I like the "be open/public, don't
make a big distinction between those with commit privs and those without
them, make decisions in public view" approach.  It is also the approach
recommended by Karl Fogel's book "Producing Free Software"
http://producingoss.com , at least as I understand/intrepret what Karl
says.  Worth reading :)

> It really is kind of crazy how quickly this was "leaked". Do know that this
> was not my intention, I just wanted to do something nice for you guys.

Oh, sure!  I didn't see the appearance of your ISO as a negative event,
but it may mean that if we do release an "official" Lubuntu 11.04 amd64
ISO at some stage, finding out whether users have that one, or yours,
when doing support, may be a minor challenge (although see below re.
your volume id!)

> I guess it's kind of a habit to go ahead and set labels. Setting this stuff
> is usually the first thing I do when putting together an .iso file. I've
> seen far too many "official" images that have been mislabeled in my life so
> I usually just go ahead and set this up without thinking much about it.

If the script does the labelling, it is much harder to get wrong than
if a human has to remember to change it each time by hand, see below :)

I'm not sure how the real Ubuntu image creation setup handles this; I suspect
I'll get to know it fairly deeply in a few weeks time!

I want to be able to use that infrastructure to create and publish
daily or weekly ISO images as we progress through Alpha and Beta for
11.10.  It is already set up for doing that.  In contrast, that high a
frequency of image updating is probably beyond the patience of most
humans, even if they are as comfortable and experienced with
hand-creating ISOs as you seem to be :)

> On that note, signing .iso files is a rather
> fantastic idea and I'll consider this in Peppermint and will bring it up to
> Clem at Linux Mint and see what he says.

Go for it... our script does something like

  IMAGE_NAME="Lubuntu ${release} $(date -u +%Y%m%d) - ${arch}"
  ISOFILE=lubuntu-${release}-$(date -u +%Y%m%d)-${arch}.iso
  sudo mkisofs -r -V "$IMAGE_NAME" -cache-inodes -J -l \
-b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat \
-no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table \
--publisher "Lubuntu Packaging Team" \
--volset "Ubuntu Linux http://www.ubuntu.com"; \
-p "${DEBFULLNAME:-$USER} <${DEBEMAIL:-on host $(hostname --fqdn)}>" \
-A "$IMAGE_NAME" \
-m filesystem.squashfs \
-o ../$ISOFILE .

at the moment.  ISO images have many fields in them for info on
the publisher, application, etc., in the ISO filesystem header -- so we
might as well fill some of them in!  Your image seems to be leaving all
of Volume set id, Data preparer id, and Publisher id empty, and using
the default (an ad for genisoimage!) in the application id.

If you don't want to remember all the option switches, you can create a
~/.genisoimagerc file with a set of strings that will become your new
defaults -- that might suit your style of ISO creation better than the
lengthy command above :)

> If I were in your shoes I would go ahead and take a bit of time to address
> the current build script. Causality is very important in my opinion and
> regardless of the potential future obsolescence of the script, moving
> forward with that knowledge strikes me as more sound than moving forward
> without it.

Agreed in principle; my time for all this is not infinite though :)

> As long as each component is correct and in the
> correct location, then I don't see why it matters how each one got there.

Repeatability, ease of automated daily builds, etc. are the main
"pluses" I can see that are difficult for humans to match.  At least in
theory, with a script you only make a mistake once; thereafter you fix
the script, and that particular mistake will not happen again :)

> ..., it's been rather obvious that the demand for a well put together
> Ubuntu based 64 bit LXDE distro has been there for a while.

Agreed, although I'm a little puzzled by it; generally speaking 64bit
addressing doesn't get you anything useful until you have 4GB or more
of RAM, and most 64bit PC CPUs are multicore; run on that level of PC
hardware, the extra overhead of GNOME or Xfce is really not all that
noticeable/bad, IMO.  I'm not discouraging 64bit Lubuntu at all, once we
have an official one, I'm likely to run it on my own main development
PC, ... *but* I'm not really sure why there is so much interest in a
64bit LXDE-based distro.  Are there really a lot of slow, old, low-RAM
64bit PCs out there that people

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Tim Bernhard]

Thanks Andrew.  I knew it was a dumb question.  BAD md5sum.  I was in a rush
to leave for work and didn't bother to check it.  Just got another copy,
checked the md5 and created the USB stick.  I'll test it out later and
report back if I have any issues.

Tim

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

> Not yet, but I will as soon as I get home.
>
>
>
> -- Sent from my Palm Pre
>
> --
> On May 12, 2011 3:36 PM, Andrew Woodhead 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:
>
>> Dumb question.  Why doesn't "startup disk creator" recognize the 64-bit
>> iso?  It won't let me make a bootable usb stick.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver > > wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
>>> gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If
>>> there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this
>>> is released to the public.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?

 Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult  a écrit :

 I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.
 So we will have a mirror of it.

 Who will upload it to a torrent site?
 I'm eager to seed after I have it.

 On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver <
 kend...@peppermintos.com> wrote:

> Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify
> the md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here
> 'tis:
>
> 
> http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso
>
> md5sum
> = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6
>
> Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing.
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne < 
> gi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
>> Kendall Weaver < kend...@peppermintos.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64
>> Lubuntu
>> > 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
>> package
>> > that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
>> installing
>> > it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to
>> the i386
>> > as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity
>> to test
>> > are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
>> Windows
>> > system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need
>> to be
>> > made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the
>> same ones
>> > used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.
>>
>> Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a
>> script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?
>>
>> If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
>> non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Tim Bernhard]

Not yet, but I will as soon as I get home.  



-- Sent from my Palm Pre
On May 12, 2011 3:36 PM, Andrew Woodhead  
wrote: 



On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Tim Bernhard  wrote:

Dumb question.  Why doesn't "startup disk creator" recognize the 64-bit 
iso?  It won't let me make a bootable usb stick.

Thanks,

Tim

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver 
 wrote:


Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet 
a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If there are 
issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this is released 
to the public.




On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:



Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?

Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult  a écrit :




I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.


So we will have a mirror of it.
Who will upload it to a torrent site?I'm eager to seed after I have it.


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver 
 wrote:




Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the 
md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:
http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso





md5sum = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6
Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks.






On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:





On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400

Kendall Weaver  wrote:



> I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu

> 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg 
package

> that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing

> it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the 
i386

> as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test

> are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows

> system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be

> made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones

> used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.



Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script or 
did you do it manualy with a chroot ?



If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an 
non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.



Regards,

Julien Lavergne



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Did you  MD5 test the ISO?

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Tim Bernhard]

Dumb question.  Why doesn't "startup disk creator" recognize the 64-bit
iso?  It won't let me make a bootable usb stick.

Thanks,

Tim

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Kendall Weaver wrote:

> Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
> gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If
> there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this
> is released to the public.
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?
>>
>> Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult  a écrit :
>>
>> I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.
>> So we will have a mirror of it.
>>
>> Who will upload it to a torrent site?
>> I'm eager to seed after I have it.
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver <
>> kend...@peppermintos.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the
>>> md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:
>>>
>>> 
>>> http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso
>>>
>>> md5sum
>>> = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6
>>>
>>> Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing.
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne < 
>>> gi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>>
 On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
 Kendall Weaver < kend...@peppermintos.com>
 wrote:

 > I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64
 Lubuntu
 > 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
 package
 > that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
 installing
 > it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to
 the i386
 > as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to
 test
 > are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
 Windows
 > system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to
 be
 > made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same
 ones
 > used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.

 Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a
 script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?

 If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
 non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Jonathan Marsden]

Kendall,

Thanks for doing this, as you will see from your web server log, an
amd64 Lubuntu is something quote a few people are interested in :)

On 05/11/2011 03:33 PM, Kendall Weaver wrote:

> Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through
> the gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution
> are made. If there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them
> situated before this is released to the public.

I know this suggestion is arriving a bit late, but next time, please
don't label your unofficial image:

#define DISKNAME  Lubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal" - Release amd64

since it is not an official Lubuntu 11.04 image!  Preferably, don't name
the resulting .iso file something that looks to casual observers as
though it is an official ISO, either :)

Putting your name or initials somewhere in that DISKNAME string, and in
the ISO filename, would really have helped in this regard.  Perhaps also
in the -p and -A options to mkisofs?  Even in modified boot menus.

Our current build script automatically puts the name and email address
of whoever builds the ISO into the image, so we can tell who created any
give ISO the script creates (well, unless someone deliberately fakes it,
by setting the relevant environment variables, I suppose!).

FWIW, I may take your image and see if I can use parts of it to figure
out exactly what needs changing in our current Lubuntu build script, so
it can (at last!) build (working) amd64 ISO images...

However, we are (after some productive UDS sessions!) very close to (a
few weeks away from) to being able to use the same ISO build
infrastructure that the other Ubuntu's use, which will make such work
totally unnecessary... that's slightly demotivating to me regarding
spending time on our current ISO build script -- its life is coming to
an end :)

Just my opinion: I think Lubuntu ISO images that require hand-building
are probably not a wise move for anything long term or even
semi-official; starting down that path usually wastes scarce volunteer
techie time, IMO.  Computers are good at repetitive tasks... so let's
automate them when possible, and let the computers do them, freeing us
humans for the creative stuff that computers are bad at!

Jonathan

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Keith Clark]

Is 11.04 64 bit supposed to work with my wireless card out of the box?
It is a broadcom card.

Keith

On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 22:00 +0200, Michał Ćwikliński wrote:
> It's done
> http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b29819701aedf1470ee098112fb2003eb881da25
> 
> W dniu 2011-05-11 21:09, Fredrik Andersson pisze: 
> > Well i might be able to upload it to Linuxtracker.org, if someone
> > should beat Me to it i will jump in and seed
> > 
> > Contact:
> > 
> > Mail&Messenger
> > fredrikfri...@gmail.com
> > 
> > > Den 11 maj 2011 20.07, "Benny Hult"  skrev:
> > > 
> > > I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening. 
> > > So we will have a mirror of it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Who will upload it to a torrent site?
> > > I'm eager to seed after I have it.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver
> > >  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test
> > > download to verify the md5sum matches (nothin... 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Chris]

I made a reply on there that is no-way official or tested so they use it at
their own risk =)

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 00:59, Yorvyk  wrote:

> On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:33:16 -0400
> Kendall Weaver  wrote:
>
> > Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
> > gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made.
> If
> > there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before
> this
> > is released to the public.
> >
> Too late
> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-64bit-image-available-for-download/
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Yorvyk]

On Wed, 11 May 2011 18:33:16 -0400
Kendall Weaver  wrote:

> Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
> gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If
> there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this
> is released to the public.
> 
Too late 
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/lubuntu-64bit-image-available-for-download/

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Kendall Weaver]

Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the
gauntlet a time or two before any decisions about distribution are made. If
there are issues that I missed, then I need to get them situated before this
is released to the public.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?
>
> Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult  a écrit :
>
> I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.
> So we will have a mirror of it.
>
> Who will upload it to a torrent site?
> I'm eager to seed after I have it.
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver <
> kend...@peppermintos.com> wrote:
>
>> Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the
>> md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:
>>
>> 
>> http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso
>>
>> md5sum
>> = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6
>>
>> Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne < 
>> gi...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
>>> Kendall Weaver < kend...@peppermintos.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
>>> > 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
>>> package
>>> > that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
>>> installing
>>> > it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the
>>> i386
>>> > as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to
>>> test
>>> > are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
>>> Windows
>>> > system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to
>>> be
>>> > made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same
>>> ones
>>> > used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.
>>>
>>> Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a
>>> script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?
>>>
>>> If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
>>> non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Julien Lavergne
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Julien Lavergne]

Does anyone tested it yet, before putting in on torrent and mirrors ?

Le 11 mai 2011 à 20:07, Benny Hult  a écrit :

> I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.
> So we will have a mirror of it.
> 
> Who will upload it to a torrent site?
> I'm eager to seed after I have it.
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver  
> wrote:
> Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the 
> md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:
> 
> http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso
> 
> md5sum = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6
> 
> Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks.
> 
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
> Kendall Weaver  wrote:
> 
> > I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
> > 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package
> > that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing
> > it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386
> > as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test
> > are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows
> > system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
> > made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones
> > used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.
> 
> Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script 
> or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?
> 
> If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an 
> non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.
> 
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Chris]

I'll probably be online tonight to download the torrent and will burn it
tomorrow. Will test it over the current 32 bit install. Yay, 64 bit =D.

With metta,

Chris Druif
On May 11, 2011 10:20 PM, "Keith Clark"  wrote:
> Ok, I'm all set up and ready to seed here!
>
> Keith
>
> On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 22:00 +0200, Michał Ćwikliński wrote:
>> It's done
>>
http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b29819701aedf1470ee098112fb2003eb881da25
>>
>> W dniu 2011-05-11 21:09, Fredrik Andersson pisze:
>> > Well i might be able to upload it to Linuxtracker.org, if someone
>> > should beat Me to it i will jump in and seed
>> >
>> > Contact:
>> >
>> > Mail&Messenger
>> > fredrikfri...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > > Den 11 maj 2011 20.07, "Benny Hult"  skrev:
>> > >
>> > > I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.
>> > > So we will have a mirror of it.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Who will upload it to a torrent site?
>> > > I'm eager to seed after I have it.
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver
>> > >  wrote:
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test
>> > > download to verify the md5sum matches (nothin...
>> > >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Keith Clark]

Ok, I'm all set up and ready to seed here!

Keith

On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 22:00 +0200, Michał Ćwikliński wrote:
> It's done
> http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b29819701aedf1470ee098112fb2003eb881da25
> 
> W dniu 2011-05-11 21:09, Fredrik Andersson pisze: 
> > Well i might be able to upload it to Linuxtracker.org, if someone
> > should beat Me to it i will jump in and seed
> > 
> > Contact:
> > 
> > Mail&Messenger
> > fredrikfri...@gmail.com
> > 
> > > Den 11 maj 2011 20.07, "Benny Hult"  skrev:
> > > 
> > > I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening. 
> > > So we will have a mirror of it.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Who will upload it to a torrent site?
> > > I'm eager to seed after I have it.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver
> > >  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test
> > > download to verify the md5sum matches (nothin... 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Michał Ćwikliński]

It's done 
http://linuxtracker.org/index.php?page=torrent-details&id=b29819701aedf1470ee098112fb2003eb881da25


W dniu 2011-05-11 21:09, Fredrik Andersson pisze:


Well i might be able to upload it to Linuxtracker.org, if someone 
should beat Me to it i will jump in and seed


Contact:

Mail&Messenger
fredrikfri...@gmail.com 

Den 11 maj 2011 20.07, "Benny Hult" > skrev:


I'll upload it to phillw.net  during this evening.
So we will have a mirror of it.

Who will upload it to a torrent site?
I'm eager to seed after I have it.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver 
mailto:kend...@peppermintos.com>> wrote:


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Fredrik Andersson]

Well i might be able to upload it to Linuxtracker.org, if someone should
beat Me to it i will jump in and seed

Contact:

Mail&Messenger
fredrikfri...@gmail.com

Den 11 maj 2011 20.07, "Benny Hult"  skrev:

I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.
So we will have a mirror of it.

Who will upload it to a torrent site?
I'm eager to seed after I have it.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver 
wrote:

> >
> > Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Benny Hult]

I'll upload it to phillw.net during this evening.
So we will have a mirror of it.

Who will upload it to a torrent site?
I'm eager to seed after I have it.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Kendall Weaver wrote:

> Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the
> md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:
>
> http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso
>
> md5sum
> = f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6
>
> Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks.
>
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
>> Kendall Weaver  wrote:
>>
>> > I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
>> > 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
>> package
>> > that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
>> installing
>> > it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the
>> i386
>> > as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to
>> test
>> > are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
>> Windows
>> > system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
>> > made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same
>> ones
>> > used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.
>>
>> Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a
>> script or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?
>>
>> If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
>> non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Kendall Weaver]

Alright, I have it uploaded and have done one test download to verify the
md5sum matches (nothing is more irritating than a bad upload). Here 'tis:

http://kendalltristan.com/iso/Lubuntu-11.04-amd64.iso

md5sum
= f24d791333efc959a81d5449bf893aa6

Let me know how it goes and if there's anything that needs fixing. Thanks.


On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
> Kendall Weaver  wrote:
>
> > I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
> > 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
> package
> > that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
> installing
> > it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the
> i386
> > as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to
> test
> > are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
> Windows
> > system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
> > made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same
> ones
> > used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.
>
> Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script
> or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?
>
> If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
> non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Kendall Weaver]

I went ahead and started uploading it to the host for my personal website.
They should be fine with it as long as there isn't a terribly large number
of downloads. It'll probably take another 4 hours to finish uploading from
right now. I'm going to get some sleep in a minute and I'll post a link and
the md5sum when I wake up. The internet connection around here has been up
and down due to some storms in the area so if the upload fails I'll start it
again first thing in the morning.

Regarding building, I extracted the 64 bit Xubuntu .iso file and chrooted
into it. From there it was a simple matter of adding and removing packages.
I did scrub the logs and remove the *old files to have as clean a system for
the end user as possible. Outside of the filesystem I copied over the
isolinux stuff from the 32 bit Lubuntu build and manually changed the stuff
in the .disk directory, and the README.diskdefines, autorun.inf and the
preseed files to reflect the correct information. All pretty standard stuff.
I don't much care to spin .iso files from scripts or tools, you never know
if you're going to see something that the script doesn't account for, plus I
like getting my hands dirty. :)

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:12 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
> Kendall Weaver  wrote:
>
> > I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
> > 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg
> package
> > that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished
> installing
> > it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the
> i386
> > as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to
> test
> > are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a
> Windows
> > system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
> > made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same
> ones
> > used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.
>
> Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script
> or did you do it manualy with a chroot ?
>
> If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an
> non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Julien Lavergne]

On Tue, 10 May 2011 22:53:32 -0400
Kendall Weaver  wrote:

> I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
> 11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package
> that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing
> it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386
> as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test
> are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows
> system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
> made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones
> used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.

Thank Kendall. I wondered how do you create this image. Do you use a script or 
did you do it manualy with a chroot ?

If we don't find bugs when testing it, we can probably ship it as an 
non-offcial ISO, like the alternate CD we had for 10.10.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Chris]

I think a torrent would also be great, that way the load will be share among
everyone. I'll save my custom lubuntu-rc.xml and will try it when I've for
it in. For your other questions I've got no real answers (just woke minutes
ago).

With metta,

Chris Druif
On May 11, 2011 4:54 AM, "Kendall Weaver"  wrote:
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[Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

[Kendall Weaver]

Hey guys,

I had some free time today so I went ahead and spun up an amd64 Lubuntu
11.04 build. The package list is identical to the i386 save one xorg package
that isn't available in the 64 bit architecture. I just finished installing
it on my test box and everything seems to be working identically to the i386
as best as I can tell. The only things that are beyond my capacity to test
are the usb-creator.exe and wubi.exe applications as I don't have a Windows
system anywhere and I'm unfamiliar with what (if any) changes need to be
made there. Currently the .exe files that are on the .iso are the same ones
used in the amd64 Xubuntu build.

I need to find a way to get this distributed amongst the Lubuntu testers and
developers. I can stick this up on the Peppermint server probably tomorrow
sometime or I can throw it in my Dropbox and share it with a couple of
people (gotta be careful not to max out my available bandwidth though). When
I figure out how to get this to you guys, it's my hope that you'll take it
and make it available to everyone who's been wanting a 64 bit Lubuntu for
all this time. I figured it would be a small thanks to you guys for putting
together such an excellent distro. Currently I use Lubuntu as the base for
Peppermint OS and for some of the Linux Mint editions I build.

Just let me know how best to get this to you guys and I'll start uploading.
If there are any "mission critical" changes that need to be made, I can
probably step back in and take care of them if necessary. Again, just wanted
to say thanks.

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Kendall Weaver
CTO, Peppermint LLC
828-489-9757
kend...@peppermintos.com
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