Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] first impression about lubuntu from lubuntu.net iso and it's netbook mode

2010-07-14 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi,

glad you like it :-) The styles, wallpaper, button order etc. etc. Can be
found at Preferences -- Openbox Configuration. Gtk2 themes can be found
with any search engine, a couple of good places to head for free ones are
http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2  http://www.deviantart.com/ (search for
gtk),

The preferences for the panel can be found by right-clicking on it, and
selecting 'Panel Settings' (I always have mine at the top).

I also run Deadbeef, but it is not in the repositries as yet so has to be
maunally added (We can't include it by default).

As you seem interested in art-work, themes etc. why not join the artwork
area? Where they're up to is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork this
mailing list will put you in touch with them.

I'll put onto my list to get some documentation written up and posted on the
adding / changing themes etc. (Unless some one already has some).

There was some further discussion at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1445641 which has to alter your
desktop picture.

Please note !! All the above is for desktop version, but the programmes
should all be the same, just some settings will be different !

Regards,

Phill.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:43 AM, Sylkis syl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Today I have downloaded the iso from lubuntu.net, that is the one supposed
 to be used by ordinary users, I suppose. Generally it makes great impression
 (however it has to be personalised in my opinion to become fully useable,
 but I guess that can be said about any operating system) and have some
 suggestions about netbook desktop of lubuntu.

 I really love it, it works basically in the same way as UNR, but it's
 lightweight of course :) but it has few drawbacks.

 First of all - I couldn't find anywhere how to personalise it. I mean from
 the menus, what can I find in them, to the way how it looks like. No
 wallpaper, no changes in colour scheme, etc - and it surely WILL scare away
 new users from this mode.
 I know that making it transparent menu (the bottom panel can do that,
 right? so I guess it should not be a big problem to do the same thing
 here?) or wallpaper-able in any other way and customizeable in terms of
 colours, etc would make it a bit heavier, but still I think it's really
 worth it. Now it looks potentially unattractive for random ordinary user,
 especially for newbies,  as the only thing that is great about it is
 usefullness and convienience. But in today's world of eye-candied
 Ubuntu-Unity, macOSX and windows7 it's not enough, as it lacks really basic
 features, that non-netbook lubuntu desktop DOES offer. I'm not saying that
 it should become something like that heavy animated openGL netbook-launcher
 thing, but I believe most people would prefer to look at some favourite
 photo (or sth) rather than on plain light blue screen.
 OR if there is a way how to customize the looks of the netbook menu, you
 should make it easily accesible, cause I couldn't find it, and if I didn't -
 then I bet no newbie would either.

 Another thing that I think would be nice is that the top panel of the
 netbook desktop menu would be somehow always on top, I mean never covered
 with windows, and clicking on it while some window is maximized would
 minimize everything and let user jump to desktop same as one icon in the
 bottom panel does (and that one would be unnessesary then). BUT - as I have
 mentioned, there IS an icon in panel that makes user jump to naked desktop
 menu anyways, so that change is just an idea that is unlikely to do, as it's
 not needed. I guess i't somehow because I'm use tod UNR, there clicking on
 the left side of the panel worked like that.

 Oh, and non-netbook-menu matter; it would be GREAT if the standard black
 LXDE background of the bottom panel would be included. It looked just great,
 i don't understand why was it changed for such ugly gray one, but well -
 that's a matter of taste, and the general artwork looks really fine, so I
 guess it was part of a larger concept. Still, while customising I wanted to
 change the colour of the panel and found no alternative graphic, only the
 deafult gray one, or the possibility of plain and/or transparent colours. I
 belive such graphic weigths just a few KB, so wy not give people choice?

 And last but not least, I didn't see deadbeef in defaultly installed apps,
 there was still aqualung in there. Is it still supposed to be like that? and
 will the bottom panel be moved to top, and [minimise]/[maximise]/[close]
 buttons moved to the left corner of window, like in new ubuntu? I'm just
 curious about consistence of general ubuntu idea and the if that the iso
 from lubuntu.net is and up-to-date one, or shall I download newer one from
 somewhere else?

 Phew... I think that's all for now, I'm getting back to lubuntu as my main
 system of everyday use, after quite a long break.

 If I come up with anything, I'll let you know for sure.

 Cheers, Kuba

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[Lubuntu-desktop] first impression about lubuntu from lubuntu.net iso and it's netbook mode

2010-07-13 Thread Sylkis
Hi,

Today I have downloaded the iso from lubuntu.net, that is the one supposed
to be used by ordinary users, I suppose. Generally it makes great impression
(however it has to be personalised in my opinion to become fully useable,
but I guess that can be said about any operating system) and have some
suggestions about netbook desktop of lubuntu.

I really love it, it works basically in the same way as UNR, but it's
lightweight of course :) but it has few drawbacks.

First of all - I couldn't find anywhere how to personalise it. I mean from
the menus, what can I find in them, to the way how it looks like. No
wallpaper, no changes in colour scheme, etc - and it surely WILL scare away
new users from this mode.
I know that making it transparent menu (the bottom panel can do that, right?
so I guess it should not be a big problem to do the same thing here?) or
wallpaper-able in any other way and customizeable in terms of colours, etc
would make it a bit heavier, but still I think it's really worth it. Now it
looks potentially unattractive for random ordinary user, especially for
newbies,  as the only thing that is great about it is usefullness and
convienience. But in today's world of eye-candied Ubuntu-Unity, macOSX and
windows7 it's not enough, as it lacks really basic features, that
non-netbook lubuntu desktop DOES offer. I'm not saying that it should become
something like that heavy animated openGL netbook-launcher thing, but I
believe most people would prefer to look at some favourite photo (or sth)
rather than on plain light blue screen.
OR if there is a way how to customize the looks of the netbook menu, you
should make it easily accesible, cause I couldn't find it, and if I didn't -
then I bet no newbie would either.

Another thing that I think would be nice is that the top panel of the
netbook desktop menu would be somehow always on top, I mean never covered
with windows, and clicking on it while some window is maximized would
minimize everything and let user jump to desktop same as one icon in the
bottom panel does (and that one would be unnessesary then). BUT - as I have
mentioned, there IS an icon in panel that makes user jump to naked desktop
menu anyways, so that change is just an idea that is unlikely to do, as it's
not needed. I guess i't somehow because I'm use tod UNR, there clicking on
the left side of the panel worked like that.

Oh, and non-netbook-menu matter; it would be GREAT if the standard black
LXDE background of the bottom panel would be included. It looked just great,
i don't understand why was it changed for such ugly gray one, but well -
that's a matter of taste, and the general artwork looks really fine, so I
guess it was part of a larger concept. Still, while customising I wanted to
change the colour of the panel and found no alternative graphic, only the
deafult gray one, or the possibility of plain and/or transparent colours. I
belive such graphic weigths just a few KB, so wy not give people choice?

And last but not least, I didn't see deadbeef in defaultly installed apps,
there was still aqualung in there. Is it still supposed to be like that? and
will the bottom panel be moved to top, and [minimise]/[maximise]/[close]
buttons moved to the left corner of window, like in new ubuntu? I'm just
curious about consistence of general ubuntu idea and the if that the iso
from lubuntu.net is and up-to-date one, or shall I download newer one from
somewhere else?

Phew... I think that's all for now, I'm getting back to lubuntu as my main
system of everyday use, after quite a long break.

If I come up with anything, I'll let you know for sure.

Cheers, Kuba
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