Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Need tests for 10.10 (maverick) updated

2011-01-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, On 01/27/2011 03:50 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: I pushed some fixes for Lubuntu 10.10 (maverick), but they need testing to be included in official repository : ... Basicly, you need to test on a 10.10 system with -proposed repository activated, follow the test case ... Two

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Need tests for 10.10 (maverick) updated

2011-01-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 01/28/2011 05:58 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Quietly stalks jonathon for a new slave for julien just do not let him know yet :) Heh. That will teach me to ask questions before introducing myself :) ( BTW, just to be pedantic, I'm Jonathan -- one o and two as) I'm a very long time

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Members list

2011-01-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 01/31/2011 02:44 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I've had a couple of people suggest that we put the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Get%20Involved/WhoWeAre page into some sort of order. I can do it by name, IRC nick or language (language being my preferred one), ... Can we ask what purpose

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Members list (and editing information in multiple places)

2011-01-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 01/31/2011 09:21 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I've added a Time Zone column, now I just need everyone to go back and edit their entries! I respectfully suggest that you don't really need everyone to do that :) If we need TZ info on this list (as opposed to one click away from the list as it

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Members list (and editing information in multiple places)

2011-01-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 01/31/2011 08:31 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: I respectfully suggest that you don't really need everyone to do that :) Failing that, if we really have to statically duplicate this information, could I suggest we at least initialize the new column using the TZ data that is currently in LP

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Members list (and editing information in multiple places)

2011-01-31 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 01/31/2011 09:00 PM, Benny Hult wrote: ..., I think there's really no need for time zones. This comes back to use cases... Phill, why are people wanting TZ info on WhoWeAre? What are the likely uses that will be made of it? In practice, if this is intended for real time online

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Suggestion: Move these apps from Preferences to System Tools (UPDATED)

2011-02-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Kristian, On 02/07/2011 11:36 PM, Kristian Nordestgaard wrote: I tested the attached file on a (almost) vanilla install, and it worked. I for one find System Tools a proper naming, I think. Thanks. You replied just to me, but I think you probably intended to send to the list :) At the

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ENCRYPTION PROBLEM AFTER PERFORMING Install Lubuntu from Ubuntu or any other Ubuntu flavors

2011-02-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Lionel and Jared, On 02/09/2011 09:23 PM, Jared Norris wrote: Lionel has detailed his experience in the attached PDF so if you can please have a quick read (it's only a page or two) and try to help him out with his encryption error that would really be appreciated. If you can also please

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] iso disc defects (and build process documentation)

2011-02-10 Thread Jonathan Marsden
it into an automated, repeatable, and reliable process. Thanks, Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ENCRYPTION PROBLEM AFTER PERFORMING Install Lubuntu from Ubuntu or any other Ubuntu flavors

2011-02-10 Thread Jonathan Marsden
am presenting on Saturday, etc., in addition to normal work and family demands on my time! Anyway, just in case, please do cc the mailing list on any it worked or I tried and *this* happened, what should I try next? messages. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm

[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu development process documentation, etc.

2011-02-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/10/2011 04:34 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: As Julien catches up with what will be a massive backlog, I'm certain he will be in touch with you. Once again, thanks for coming on board to help. Sure. Somewhat in this same vein, what do you think of Karl Fogel's book Producing Open Source

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu development process documentation, etc.

2011-02-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/11/2011 06:54 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Well, the main problem now is to found developers, not organize the work :) Actually, the development of LXDE is very quiet : one of the main dev have quiet, pcman is busy, and other distro maintainers are also quiet. I was not very active

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Suggestion: Move these apps from Preferences to System Tools (UPDATED)

2011-02-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
two submenus, Administration (for all these moved system admin tools), and System Tools (for ones that were in the previous System Tools top level menu). Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu development process documentation, etc.

2011-02-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Naveen, As with all Launchpad mailing lists, *please* hit Reply to All so that your replies go to the list, not just to the one person who write the message you are replying to :) On 02/12/2011 01:20 AM, Naveen Agrawal wrote: I think I was not clear here. But I was talking about a knowledge

[Lubuntu-desktop] bzr and lubuntu-default-settings

2011-02-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, I've grabbed the bzr tree for lubuntu-default-settings from the location in its debian/control file, which is lp:~lubuntu-desktop/+junk/lubuntu-default-settings I edited things (for bug #650432), built and tested the package, committed locally, signed my commit, and pushed the change

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] alpha2 image boot problem

2011-02-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/13/2011 02:18 AM, Zoltan Matlak wrote: I tried installing alpha2 on virtualbox, it does not work (doesn't boot). I usually install it (test it) as a fresh virtual box installation before I put it on a disk partition as a stand alone OS. I red the list, someone else also mentioned this

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu development process documentation, etc.

2011-02-13 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/13/2011 04:38 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: But you can plan to work on a specific package on your own :) Naveen was needing some help to get started, which is why he didn't think that was a good option for him. I pointed him in what I hope is a sane direction when we met on IRC after this

[Lubuntu-desktop] How to file a Ubuntu bug report (was: Re: Disk utility (palimpsest) bug )

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Naveen and Leszek, On 02/17/2011 04:28 AM, Leszek Lesner wrote: Am Donnerstag 17 Februar 2011, um 09:46:41 schrieb Naveen Agrawal: Loong Jin Please file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/palimpsest. The link provided by you is incorrect. Please check it. I think this

[Lubuntu-desktop] Benchmarking of Lubuntu themes (was: Re: Fwd: Ozone theme available for testing )

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Rafael, On 02/17/2011 12:31 AM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote: Because informatics is a science, we need comparatives and data fidelity. Agreed. http://gianvito.wordpress.com/2008/02/20/gtk-engines-benchmarks-whats-the-fastest/2/ Because we need good data, and this blog entry is from back in

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benchmarking of Lubuntu themes

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Rafael, On 02/17/2011 07:31 AM, 神癒礁湖 (Rafael Laguna) wrote: My apologies about being so explicitly scientific. It's *great* to be scientific about testing! But that does usually involve some work, not just pointing to a 3 year old blog. But, don't you think that Phoronix suite is a bit

[Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update)

2011-02-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/17/2011 12:40 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: we have recently gotten someone on board to help Julien with the building of iso's, once they get things sorted I'm sure that an alternate 10.04 iso is not impossible. ... I'm at the I need a few hours of playing with all this stuff before I do

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] debconf bug?

2011-02-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/18/2011 10:59 AM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Installing Lubuntu 10.04 to a friend, i watched something strange while upgrading the system: debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome debconf: (Unable to load Gnome... is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] debconf bug?

2011-02-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/18/2011 12:02 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: So, according to you it doesn't affect that each time a package is installed or uninstalled the system tries to find something and fails: Correct... however, I do not think it's primarily

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update)

2011-02-22 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/22/2011 09:47 PM, PYROcomp wrote: We are interested in giving a hand with building install ISOs. Is there a source for information on this process? Could you help us out in getting started? You do an EXCELLENT job and we know that opensource can be a very time demanding hobby thus we

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] text files bug

2011-02-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/21/2011 07:23 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: A text file copied and then pasted from a device to another (i did it with my usb key to my hdd and viceversa) is marked as an executable file ... Try it with the usb key formatted as ext2

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update)

2011-02-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/23/2011 02:09 AM, Leszek Lesner wrote: Am Mittwoch 23 Februar 2011, um 08:55:24 schrieb Jonathan Marsden: My guess is that the ubuntu devs are using the live-helper scripts as they are quite good and can generate live and install cds. I

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Pidgin Suggestion

2011-02-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/23/2011 07:53 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: Since Lubuntu uses libnotify for NM, transmission, power-management Gnome-Mplayer I would like to make a very humble suggestion package to be included on lubuntu: pidgin-libnotify. It would be nice to have an unified looking desktop.

[Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on (was: Re: Ask yourself...)

2011-02-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:08:17 -0600 PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: Does the 11.04 edition in fact run on P2s? Yes. As I understand it support for old CPUs was dropped from the latest kernels... Maybe we need to add this to the Lubuntu FAQ, or something. It is already on the main Lubntu

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on

2011-02-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 25 Feb 2011 13:52:19 -0600, PYROcomp rexmo...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps this would be a worthwhile project: compiling support for i586? Let me know, if there is enough belief in support for i586 I will suggest it to the sl4mm3r5 group. Wow! Do you have any idea of the time it would take

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on

2011-02-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/25/2011 06:05 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu#System requirements sums up the decision taken. The subject of this thread is CPUs Lubuntu 11.04 (i386) will run on, so, as far as I know, this thread is about 11.04, not about 10.04. That decision taken is *not*

[Lubuntu-desktop] Quoting style

2011-02-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I'll probably be called pedantic or old-fashioned for this, but: Could we all try to avoid quoting the *entire* email to which we are responding, please? This mailing list is archived at https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/ and the archive is public. So anyone needing to read

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating alternate ISOs, 64bit ISOs, etc. (status update 27 Feb 2am)

2011-02-27 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 02/27/2011 02:58 AM, UndiFineD wrote: 2011/2/27 Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm: Next likely steps are: (a) Look at why virtualbox is so unhappy with these ISO images I had no issue loading the install cd in virtualbox 4.0 however, the install cd might use elements from the VM

[Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs (was: Re: A new (very) alpha ISO to test: Announcing the arrival of lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso )

2011-02-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, On 28 Feb 2011 19:24:20 +0100 Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le dimanche 27 février 2011 à 23:49 -0800, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : * A build including all language-pack-gnome-* packages resulted in an 833 MByte ISO, so this one only has the de,en,es,fr,nl ones. Whether

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Adding yelp - working help for Gnumeric

2011-02-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 04:21 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le lundi 28 février 2011 à 12:36 -0800, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : Do we have to add yelp (and its dependencies)? Or is there a better way? Bug #725292 ... As far as I understand the bug report

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] ISO size and language packs

2011-02-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 04:13 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Ubuntu have a very few numbers of language packs in CD. If you look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.natty/view/head:/live There are 5 for amd64, 9 in i386. Great!

[Lubuntu-desktop] Virtualbox and lubuntu-natty-alpha-20110228-i386.iso

2011-02-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/28/2011 08:17 PM, Zoltan Matlak wrote: In VirtualBox with this image I have the same problem as with Julien's image, it does not start at boot. Great, thanks for testing and for reporting this. I want to narrow this issue down further. For

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with Natty Alpha ISOs

2011-03-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
earlier alpha-20110228 ISO worked for you. Thanks for testing, and for reporting this issue, Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu-desktop metapackage - Recommends vs Dependencies

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/2011 01:19 AM, Richard Foulkes wrote: The thing is, lubuntu-desktop seems to have ALL of it's dependencies listed as 'Dependencies', not 'Recommends'. ... It is 100% safe to allow the lubuntu-desktop package to be removed from your

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Boot problems with Natty Alpha ISOs

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/2011 03:01 AM, Andrew Woodhead wrote: Also burn as SLOWLY as you can and use the test on the CD so you know its good Grin! If you can't boot from a CD, it is difficult to get to the menu on the CD to use the test item there :) :) You

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu-desktop metapackage - Recommends vs Dependencies

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/2011 08:56 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 03/05/2011 01:19 AM, Richard Foulkes wrote: The system still works, but this 'feels' wrong - i honestly don't know whether the removal of the package would affect a distro upgrade. It should

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 intitial test and some problems.

2011-03-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/05/2011 11:34 AM, Yorvyk wrote: Initial impression of the new Alpha 3 ISO. As the drive was a corrupt FAT32 windows disk I let it install over the whole disk. This it did with out any problems. Although, due to a dodgy BIOS, it did

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Alpha 3 Update Manager / Apt - defaults settings

2011-03-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 03/06/2011 06:18 AM, Yorvyk wrote: The lack of the signing key for the PPA is, howevr, a problem with all 3 installs I've done. I was supposed to be asking if the Lubuntu-Desktop PPA should be installed by default or are do we now have everything in the Ubuntu Repos. I (consciously)

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Really odd keyboard and mouse issue

2011-03-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 03/15/2011 06:16 PM, Jared Norris wrote: I am experiencing some really odd behaviour lately and I wanted some ideas on how to troubleshoot it further. Every now and then, seemingly randomly, the mouse and keyboard will really start to lag, How often is every now and then? Once a day?

[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu is officially free (was: [Bug 675169] Re: Please promote lubuntu-meta to universe )

2011-03-16 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 15 Mar 2011 16:24:42 - jridd...@ubuntu.com wrote: ** Changed in: lubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Fix Released Yay! This means that all packages on the Lubuntu CD are now officially free software, and therefore, we do not need to enable the (non-free) multiverse

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu is officially free

2011-03-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/16/2011 05:46 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le mercredi 16 mars 2011 à 12:02 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : lubuntu-meta seems to have been promoted directly to main: I'm definitely not complaining about that :) But me, I'll

[Lubuntu-desktop] Any major must fix before Beta issues left in Lubuntu?

2011-03-27 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien and team, What are the remaining we really need to fix *this* before beta issues in Lubuntu 11.04? Issues I know of that might qualify are: (1) Recent (post-Alpha 3) ISOs do not install from the Install Lubuntu menu item, it hangs in an X screen. (2) Lubuntu seems to need more that

[Lubuntu-desktop] Testing Page updates (was: Re: Lubuntu Natty Beta 2 released )

2011-04-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/21/2011 04:49 PM, Chris wrote: Are the known issues still the same? I'm not sure, but the All the known issues are mentioned in the Announcement email. seems less than useful. A bulleted list of the issues in the current release, linking to specific LP bugs when they exist, would be

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates

2011-04-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Phill Whiteside wrote: If you or your fellow ISO builder can drop me and my admin crew a note as to where we are upto, one of us will get the page(s) updated. I just added a quick note to the top of that page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/KeepLubuntuUptoDate saying

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.04 Beta 1: Check disc for errors returns 115 errors in ./isolinux/*

2011-04-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/21/2011 06:03 PM, Chris wrote: As you might have seen on the mailing list of today is beta 2 just been released. If not then you should find all the info you need about it here [1]. As always try to use the torrent (but as your mail has indicated you gave no problem using that). Can you

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some news about the official status of Lubuntu

2011-04-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/28/2011 03:34 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: ..., I asked for a clarification of Lubuntu status to the Technical Board of Ubuntu : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-April/000835.html You can see the answer of Mark (the big boss of Ubuntu :)) here :

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates

2011-04-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/25/2011 10:59 PM, Jared Norris wrote: On 26 April 2011 15:27, Phill Whiteside phi...@vpolink.com wrote: We have to manually subscribe to each page, which is a pain. I have set up to subscribe to /Lubuntu/.* on both wiki.u.c and help.u.c which does subscribe you to every change for

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Some news about the official status of Lubuntu

2011-04-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, I already made a blueprint about this sometimes ago : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-integrate-ubuntu-ecosystem Maybe I can refresh it and submit it for the UDS :) Yes! Do it :) Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates (wiki standards)

2011-04-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/29/2011 06:10 AM, matthew byers wrote: I give a big +1 to ensuring wiki syntax standards are kept the same across the board. Where can one find the Ubuntu Wiki standards policy? This would be more useful to me than asking questions each time I edit; I can learn to follow the official

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu-11.04.iso (wubi support?)

2011-05-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/30/2011 01:35 AM, Leo Allen wrote: I have made several attempts to install, and am currently seeding. However, I have been unseccessful with install - .iso only lists wubi for Ubuntu 11.04, Ubuntu Netbook, Kumbutu, Xumbutu, etc Thanks for reporting this issue. However, I did not

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates (wiki standards)

2011-05-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/29/2011 11:31 PM, matthew byers wrote: These two are great start pages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki this second page is more focused on guidelines and syntax: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WikiGuide Thanks, read and bookmarked. QUESTION #1: One issue I did not

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements question, 5.4 gb of free space needed?

2011-05-01 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 04/30/2011 11:17 PM, Leszek Lesner wrote: The installer says I need 5.4 gb free space to install. This seems to be a bug (or mistake) ... I agree; this issue is made worse because there is no obvious or easy way to tell the installer I know what I am doing, install anyway if it does not

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu-11.04.iso (wubi support?)

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Leo, On 05/01/2011 06:15 AM, Leo Allen wrote: I did not do any beta versions, so I am not sure wether wubi worked with them or not. OK. It looks as though wubi wasn't tested, and so probably doesn't work. We need to add wubi to the list of things to test for Lubuntu 11.10, so we don't

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and updates (wiki standards)

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jared, Earlier I asked: What is the correct way to have both a #title line and tags on the same page? A page on which this is currently attempted (but not really working) is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide On 05/01/2011 02:17 PM, Jared Norris wrote: I spent an hour

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
My workaround works! Replying to myself: On 05/01/2011 12:29 AM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: There is a file within the Lubuntu 11.04 ISO called casper/filesystem.size but it seems to be unchanged since 2010-09-06 and I don't yet know what if anything actually uses it :) Based on Julien's very

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] lubuntu-11.04.iso (wubi support?)

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/02/2011 07:40 AM, Leo Allen wrote: I've been testing disturbutions for a few years now. However, I only recently heard about Lubuntu - I was speaking to a fellow techie and he mentioned it, so of course I was interested! Thanks for all your help and info! Sorry if I wasted any of your

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (periodic disk cleanup)

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
. There are some little shell scripts around that do this, which you could add to /etc/cron.monthly/ if you wish. Neither of these are Lubuntu-specific, incidentally. Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Mon, 2 May 2011, Chris cyber.dr...@gmail.com wrote: We would need to find a more permanent I think, but until then your ISO would be a great alternative for people with small discs. OK, my tweaked Lubuntu ISO that installs to smaller disks than the official one is now available for download

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Uninstalled package asks for updates in update manager

2011-05-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
leave this one for others to answer. Incidentally, it is usually easier for those helping you if you report one issue per email or per bug report :) Jonathan -- Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Uninstalled package asks for updates in update manager

2011-05-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Lee, On Tue, 03 May 2011 12:37:18 -0700 Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com wrote: /etc/apache2 /etc/apache2/conf.d /etc/apache2/conf.d/javascript-common.conf /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf I'd say you could safely delete these, since they are not doing anything useful. /etc/php5/apache2

[Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )

2011-05-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/04/2011 05:37 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: May I ask just one silly question? (and excuse me for doing it): What Lubuntu (or the team) will gain by becoming an official part of the family? As well as the expected publicity and marketing benefits, at a technical level we would be

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official (was: Re: Ask Mark session )

2011-05-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/04/2011 09:27 PM, Benny Hult wrote: Also we can distribute Lubuntu better, ... Yes. Although, the torrents we have available continue to be pretty popular; my Deluge torrent app now says my ratio for lubuntu-11.04.iso is 45 :) Jonathan ___

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Benefits of Lubuntu being official

2011-05-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/05/2011 04:11 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: This could also mean that the support for i586 could exist again? This should maybe notted somewhere for the goals for when Lubuntu become an official derivative :) That would be a hard thing to achieve at this point, I think. Ubuntu

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs

2011-05-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/06/2011 02:53 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/TODO Let me know if it's usable for everyone. Works for me. I fixed a pile of the bitesized bugs already :) Jonathan ___ Mailing list:

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs

2011-05-08 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/08/2011 02:15 AM, PCMan wrote: Seriously, Lubuntu did a lot of fixes to the original LXDE and most of them are quite good. Can anyone help integrate the fixes with upstream source code? Sure, at least for the small fixes I have made. How do you want to receive patches? Do I need to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Uninstalled package asks for updates in updatemanager

2011-05-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Mon, 09 May 2011 08:32:50 -0700 Lee Gold leeg...@operamail.com wrote: Sorry for the delay. Also, in case you don't believe me I've included a screen shot of the update manager showing the request for Apache updates, but I don't know if the image attachment will be scrubbed or not...Thanks!

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-11 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Kendall, Thanks for doing this, as you will see from your web server log, an amd64 Lubuntu is something quote a few people are interested in :) On 05/11/2011 03:33 PM, Kendall Weaver wrote: Yeah, as with all things of this nature it needs to be run through the gauntlet a time or two before

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] [lubuntu-desktop] amd64 build of Lubuntu.

2011-05-12 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On Thu, 12 May 2011 Kendall Weaver kend...@peppermintos.com wrote: Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting to see the differences between the way things are done here at Lubuntu versus other projects I maintain or contribute to (in addition to Peppermint, I also build the Linux Mint LXDE

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)

2011-05-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/15/2011 11:32 AM, UndiFineD wrote: As discussed at uds, put only fital documentation on disc that gets people online so they can read it on help.ubuntu.com. Is all the Sylpheed and Gnumeric help documentation already on help.ubuntu.com? Where? Does the Help menu item in these programs

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] system requirements (workaround created!)

2011-05-15 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Earlier, I wrote: I suspect the number could be lowered to around 9 for a 1.8GB size check, but I have not tested that yet. On 05/15/2011 12:44 AM, Mikhail Maksimov wrote: No it can not. Tests done on alpha3 show that the system requires at least 2000 MB (decimal M) just to install

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] packaging hooks

2011-05-17 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/17/2011 02:39 PM, matthew byers wrote: Hey folks, what is the supported method of getting apport hooks packaged? Is the process to do as brian murray suggest and: In the event that you write a hook for a package that you can not *upload* or need help getting sponsored, please report a

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Image files

2011-05-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/18/2011 09:57 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: Can some one pass me the details for the community 64 Bit 11.04. https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03886.html and https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03889.html and also

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs

2011-05-21 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/08/2011 02:15 AM, PCMan wrote: Seriously, Lubuntu did a lot of fixes to the original LXDE and most of them are quite good. Can anyone help integrate the fixes with upstream source code? OK, I started on this today. I grabbed the current libfm git tree and added six commits, one for

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs (LXDE)

2011-05-22 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/22/2011 04:06 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Thanks Jonathan :) Don't forget to update the TODO page next time :) OK... I tend to only remember to update TODO when the job is done, not when I start working on it!

[Lubuntu-desktop] LXDE plans and priorities

2011-05-22 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/22/2011 08:41 PM, PCMan wrote: After this one is finished, I'll try to find some time to fix other bugs in the file manager. As for other lx-* stuff, I currently don't have enough time to fix them. Really glad that you can help. OK. Personally, I think that when developer time is

[Lubuntu-desktop] gtk-doc for libfm

2011-05-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/22/2011 08:43 PM, PCMan wrote: Another problem I got in libfm. When I tried to add gtk-doc and glib-testing supports to it, some errors happened during make. Actually I did not know how to correctly use these tools. Help is needed in this part. An option may be removing gtk-doc

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Work items and TODOs (LXDE)

2011-05-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/23/2011 01:33 PM, Julien Lavergne wrote: I'm not aware of any big crasher. Right click on the Lubuntu 11.04 desktop. Click Desktop Preferences. In Desktop Preferences dialog box, click on the Wallpaper mode field. Select Fill with background color only. Crash! X disappears, then lxdm

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility

2011-05-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/23/2011 04:58 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: From a general chat to our head of development on lubuntu, he is of the opinion that if the code is really (and I mean really) tight, that it would be possible to include within the very tight constraints that we are committed to be able to

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu and Accessibility

2011-05-24 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/24/2011 01:17 AM, Yorvyk wrote: A 700 MHz PIII Celeron with 256 MiB of PC100 RAM and a 100 MHz drive is quite usable. A 200 MHZ PIII Celeron and 128 MiB of 66MHz RAM with a 33 MHz drive is dog slow. If you add a screen reader into the mix I think the later set-up would become

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Which talk engine etc?

2011-05-25 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/25/2011 05:32 AM, Phill Whiteside wrote: your thoughts on espeak for lubuntu? Given lack of spec for what we want to do, if someone is working on speech output for Lubuntu, using espeak at least as a quick fix seems reasonable. BUT this question in itself is cart before the horse

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 roadmap proposal

2011-05-26 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Julien, On 05/26/2011 02:03 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: I'll do it if nobody have comments on it. Thanks :) * June 2nd : Alpha 1 My instinct would be to skip the Alpha 1 this cycle. I'm concerned that this is too soon and won't really be useful -- what would we gain by having alpha

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] 11.04 issues

2011-05-27 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/27/2011 07:16 PM, Tim Bernhard wrote: I just noticed that the crashing Keyboard and Mouse/Input Device Prefs app crashes on both of my laptops. ... Anyone else willing to test this? This is a known bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/772749 What we need is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Phill, On 05/28/2011 04:24 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: If we are going to keep pidgin for IM, what do we need xchat for? Mainly for those of us who use IRC, and only IRC, and have used xchat for years :) It's a matter of personal preference, of course. If there is good reason to remove xchat,

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 (Alpha1 just to change sources.list?)

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/27/2011 09:21 AM, Yorvyk wrote: I think an Alpha 1 is needed to provided something for people to install in order to get started testing rather than changing Natty to Oneiric in sources.list. So you are saying that is is easier and quicker to download an entire 600+MB ISO, and then

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/28/2011 05:34 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: wasting RAm actually referred to having x-chat and pidgin both running together... x-chat does IRC fanatastically, but is not too good at MSN messenger, AOL / AIM, Yahoo! etc :) OK. So the fix for that is simple: don't do that, unless you have

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] IRC Client

2011-05-28 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/28/2011 06:47 PM, Jean-Pierre Vidal Piesset wrote: IMHO having two programs that one fit in the other is a waste of space in the CD and effort for the Lubuntu devs. It's definitely extra effort for one of the Lubuntu devs if I have to learn to use Pidgin, after years of using xchat :)

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating An Accessibility Specification for Lubuntu 11.10

2011-05-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/27/2011 09:26 AM, Pia wrote: ..., but in open source, if you have a very small group represented, you have to get your hands dirty first in order to sufficiently understand the situation well enough to come up with good system specifications and a reasonable roadmap in a reasonable time

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating An Accessibility Specification for Lubuntu 11.10

2011-05-29 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/29/2011 12:03 PM, Alan Bell wrote: How about sharing Ubuntu's current official accessibility roadmap with the Lubuntu developers, as a start? ... not a roadmap as such, but I have started drafting a document on the Ubuntu infrastructure for accessibility

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Creating An Accessibility Specification for Lubuntu 11.10

2011-05-30 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/30/2011 12:19 AM, Chris wrote: What I think is going wrong is difference in jargon. When the Lubuntu devs/people asked for a roadmap is what the Accessibility people would see as an priority list. When the Lubuntu people have their priority list, then they can create their own roadmap.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Permissions and who am i (was: Possible bug? )

2011-06-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/02/2011 07:54 PM, Jared Norris wrote: This is only a fairly recent occurrence or I would have picked up on it I would have thought. Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to troubleshoot this sort of issue? I would simply log out and then back in but this is my main machine

[Lubuntu-desktop] Thoughts on valuing uptime (was: Re: Possible bug? )

2011-06-02 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/02/2011 07:54 PM, Jared Norris wrote: I would simply log out and then back in but this is my main machine where I value my uptime so would prefer to leave that until last ditch effort. (1) Logging in and out does not change uptime, rebooting changes uptime. (2) Unless the machine is

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Help pages

2011-06-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/03/2011 06:32 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: I know you did ask if we could manually divert every single page from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu and initially I thought that it was not a major undertaking. I was wrong. Can't

[Lubuntu-desktop] Does Lubuntu still need anything in multiverse?

2011-06-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I noticed in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gilir/+junk/livecd-rootfs-lubuntu-support/revision/77 that we are telling the build system that we need multiverse. But I *think* we should not be doing that any more. All packages in 11.04 were in main, universe or restricted. Am I mistaken? Can

[Lubuntu-desktop] time-admin broken in Lubuntu 11.10 Alpha 1 - GTK3 issue

2011-06-04 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I know we don't have GTK3 stuff sorted in Alpha1. This is an example of the kind of issues we may face as we migrate. Clicking on Bird - System Tools - Time and Date does nothing visible. Running sudo time-admin in LXterminal gets me Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Does Lubuntu still need anything in multiverse?

2011-06-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/05/2011 06:03 AM, Julien Lavergne wrote: Le Saturday 04 June 2011 à 22:13 -0700, Jonathan Marsden a écrit : http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gilir/+junk/livecd-rootfs-lubuntu-support/revision/77 that we are telling the build system that we need multiverse. This revision is quite

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: LXDE shutown dependency/permissions?

2011-06-06 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/06/2011 03:22 AM, Jared Norris wrote: I take no credit for the answer but just wanted to pass on the information apparently the issue with the missing shutdown and reboot buttons has been traced to starting X using the startx command rather than the correct startlubuntu command.

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