Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Lubuntu GRUB and PLOP
> > > PLOP is a boot manager that requires the presence of a bootloader > > (GRUB) to load the OS. > > What’s the point of PLOP? It appears to have no use to me, just another > layer to go wrong. > Am I missing something? > I agree with: Steve Cook (Yorvyk) -- jpxsat Ubuntu user #29.157 (Lubuntu 10.04) Linux user #522.597 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Lubuntu GRUB and PLOP
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:34:11 +0100 Phill Whiteside wrote: > As requested, the sender's details have been removed, > > Any comments / Is it worth editing for the Advanced / Expert users section ? > > Regards, > > Phill. > > > Hi, > As requested an email summarising how to do it (as discussed with > bioterror). If you decide to use any of this please respect my > anonymity. > > > Outline of Circumstances and Objectives. > Various older/low spec machines are in use here that are > at/approaching the end of their life. > Objective 1: Extend useful life. > Resolution - Move to a Linux distro specifically designed to require > few demands on system resources. > > Machines are unable to satifactorily run current commercial OS's and apps. > Objective 2: Employ lightweight OSS OS and apps. > Resolution - Lubuntu > > Users here are non-expert and do not want to understand "why", only to > know "how". > Objective 3: Users not to be exposed to technicalities. > Resolution - Inherrent in Lubuntu design. > > Users are reluctant to move from what they know. > Objective 4: Employ familiar uncluttered GUI. > Resolution - Inherrent in Lubuntu design. > Objective 5: Offer similar/like-for-like apps. > Resolution - Extensive range of apps in Ubuntu repositories. > Objective 6: Reduce fear factor by demonstrating both old and new > side-by-side > Resolution - Enable multi-boot of new and existing OS/apps on current > machines. > > Machines have differing abilities to boot from a range of devices/sources > Objective 7: Provide a common means of booting to enable the same > booting ability at each machine. > Resolution - Employ PLOP boot manager. > > > Outline of Setting-up Lubuntu and PLOP > PLOP is a boot manager that requires the presence of a bootloader > (GRUB) to load the OS. > In a multi-boot set-up GRUB is not to be placed in the MBR (ref PLOP web > site). > The following was found to produce a working multi-boot set-up. > > 1: When installing Lubuntu from the CD-ROM choose to manually partition the > disk > 2: Create a small primary partition (250MB) and set its mount point as > "/boot" > 3: Create an extended partition for Lubuntu (anything above 3.5GB) and > set its mount point to be "/" > 4: On the same page is an option to choose the location of the > bootloader (GRUB). Set this to point at "/dev/sdXX" i.e. "/boot" > 5: The installation then continues as normal and when GRUB is > installed to "/boot" it also scans for other bootable OS's and adds > them to the list of boot options in the GRUB menu. > > Currently, the test-rig PC is started with PLOP on a floppy disk. It > offers to boot from various hard disk partitions. Selecting the one > created as "/boot" displays the usual GRUB menu which includes all the > OS's on the hard disk. The only step left now is to move PLOP from > floppy to the hard disk, however the proof of concept is complete. > What’s the point of PLOP? It appears to have no use to me, just another layer to go wrong. Am I missing something? -- Steve Cook (Yorvyk) http://lubuntu.net ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Lubuntu-desktop] Fwd: Lubuntu GRUB and PLOP
As requested, the sender's details have been removed, Any comments / Is it worth editing for the Advanced / Expert users section ? Regards, Phill. Hi, As requested an email summarising how to do it (as discussed with bioterror). If you decide to use any of this please respect my anonymity. Outline of Circumstances and Objectives. Various older/low spec machines are in use here that are at/approaching the end of their life. Objective 1: Extend useful life. Resolution - Move to a Linux distro specifically designed to require few demands on system resources. Machines are unable to satifactorily run current commercial OS's and apps. Objective 2: Employ lightweight OSS OS and apps. Resolution - Lubuntu Users here are non-expert and do not want to understand "why", only to know "how". Objective 3: Users not to be exposed to technicalities. Resolution - Inherrent in Lubuntu design. Users are reluctant to move from what they know. Objective 4: Employ familiar uncluttered GUI. Resolution - Inherrent in Lubuntu design. Objective 5: Offer similar/like-for-like apps. Resolution - Extensive range of apps in Ubuntu repositories. Objective 6: Reduce fear factor by demonstrating both old and new side-by-side Resolution - Enable multi-boot of new and existing OS/apps on current machines. Machines have differing abilities to boot from a range of devices/sources Objective 7: Provide a common means of booting to enable the same booting ability at each machine. Resolution - Employ PLOP boot manager. Outline of Setting-up Lubuntu and PLOP PLOP is a boot manager that requires the presence of a bootloader (GRUB) to load the OS. In a multi-boot set-up GRUB is not to be placed in the MBR (ref PLOP web site). The following was found to produce a working multi-boot set-up. 1: When installing Lubuntu from the CD-ROM choose to manually partition the disk 2: Create a small primary partition (250MB) and set its mount point as "/boot" 3: Create an extended partition for Lubuntu (anything above 3.5GB) and set its mount point to be "/" 4: On the same page is an option to choose the location of the bootloader (GRUB). Set this to point at "/dev/sdXX" i.e. "/boot" 5: The installation then continues as normal and when GRUB is installed to "/boot" it also scans for other bootable OS's and adds them to the list of boot options in the GRUB menu. Currently, the test-rig PC is started with PLOP on a floppy disk. It offers to boot from various hard disk partitions. Selecting the one created as "/boot" displays the usual GRUB menu which includes all the OS's on the hard disk. The only step left now is to move PLOP from floppy to the hard disk, however the proof of concept is complete. Regards SamK ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
