Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Keyboard weirdness, Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 - very fringe case

2010-04-28 Thread C David Rigby

Julien Lavergne wrote:

Le mardi 27 avril 2010 à 18:48 +0100, Steve a écrit :
  

There have been a couple of 'strange' language problems, involving
French  
 English, noticed by Phillw and myself, on Beta 2.  I would try it
with  
Ubuntu if you can, but I suspect it is the way the Lubuntu ISO is set
up.   
I have reported a bug where all the languages (139) are installed to
the  
hard drive. I think it is worth reporting anyway as anything that
messes  
up the install could mean one less user. 



Sorry for being quite on this. I spend last days trying to fix it for
the final release, but the way I generate the iso is quite limited. And
I don't want to spend too much time on it if we migrate to the Ubuntu
architecture for the next release.

If I don't find a solution, we need to chose one solution : keeping all
the languages on the CD (but installing them all) or don't ship them and
having a live-cd limited for language support.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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OK, no worries. As I mentioned in responding to Steve, I'm going to make 
sure the hardware is OK, then retry the installation. I'll file bug 
report(s) and find a work around if I can  document it for others. I'm 
not particularly proficient in French or Italian, but it is a workable 
option for me to do a fully French or Italian installation. That might 
give us some useful comparison cases.


How much space are we talking about for installation of all 139 languages?

Regards,
David

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Keyboard weirdness, Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 - very fringe case

2010-04-27 Thread Steve
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:43:59 +0100, C David Rigby  
c.david.ri...@gmail.com wrote:



Hello all,

I've spotted what appears to be a bug in the installer that can be run  
from the Live CD desktop environment if one chooses Try Lubuntu without  
installing from the main menu. Or the problem could be in the desktop  
environment itself. It is such a fringe case, though, that I am not sure  
if it is worth pursuing. It is 100% reproducible on this hardware.


The system is one I have scraped together while I am stuck in Italy. I  
plan to use it for testing, as I have a more powerful laptop at my  
disposal. The system is a home built PC based on a 440BX motherboard,  
and it has a French keyboard.


To produce the error:


1. Boot the Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 Live CD
2. Accept the default language, English, from the boot menu
3. Press F3 and select France for the keymap
4. Choose the Try Lubuntu without installing from the primary boot menu
5. At the desktop, start the installer
6. On the keyboard selection screen of the installer (step 3) the  
installer guesses France - Alternative

7. Press the radio button for Choose your own
8. Select France from the right-hand window list
9. Try typing text in the test field; the keyboard produces no output
10. Open leafpad or LXTerminal; still no output from the keyboard
11. Quit the installer and restart the system from the Logoff menu  
item; the CD ejects, but the system does not restart.


Later steps in installation will require the keyboard, I assume, so at  
this point installation has failed.


Note: if leafpad or LXTerminal is used prior to starting the installer,  
then the problem does not occur. Text appears in these apps. Once the  
installer is started, text appears in the test field of step 3,

Workaround:

1. Do not use F3 to choose a keymap; or
2. Open leafpad or another text-input app, type something, then start  
the installer.


So, is this important enough for a formal bug report? Should I try the  
Ubuntu Lucid Beta to see if the problem occurs there also?


Your comments appreciated,
David



There have been a couple of 'strange' language problems, involving French  
 English, noticed by Phillw and myself, on Beta 2.  I would try it with  
Ubuntu if you can, but I suspect it is the way the Lubuntu ISO is set up.   
I have reported a bug where all the languages (139) are installed to the  
hard drive. I think it is worth reporting anyway as anything that messes  
up the install could mean one less user.

--
Steve (Yorvyk)
http://www.lubuntu.net

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Keyboard weirdness, Lubuntu Lucid Beta 3 - very fringe case

2010-04-27 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le mardi 27 avril 2010 à 18:48 +0100, Steve a écrit :
 There have been a couple of 'strange' language problems, involving
 French  
  English, noticed by Phillw and myself, on Beta 2.  I would try it
 with  
 Ubuntu if you can, but I suspect it is the way the Lubuntu ISO is set
 up.   
 I have reported a bug where all the languages (139) are installed to
 the  
 hard drive. I think it is worth reporting anyway as anything that
 messes  
 up the install could mean one less user. 

Sorry for being quite on this. I spend last days trying to fix it for
the final release, but the way I generate the iso is quite limited. And
I don't want to spend too much time on it if we migrate to the Ubuntu
architecture for the next release.

If I don't find a solution, we need to chose one solution : keeping all
the languages on the CD (but installing them all) or don't ship them and
having a live-cd limited for language support.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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