Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-24 Thread Lance
Oops, forgot to include the team ;^/

--- On Sat, 12/24/11, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
To: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, December 24, 2011, 1:14 PM

Everything Jonathan Marsden said is exactly right, is there still any confusion?

Lance

--- On Fri, 12/23/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
To: Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com
Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Date: Friday, December 23, 2011, 8:52 AM

Hi Lance,
Finally I can tell who is kansasnoob :)
Thanks for your reply. Yes, I saw it before (but honestly did not read it all) 
and I just read it now.

One thing I'm in doubt about it:I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and 
running. I have done all the updates and upgrades 
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I want 
to use zsync that I already installed. From my understanding to all this, I 
just need to do this:


zsync 
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync

From Terminal and that is all, right?
Now, as per your post that you mentioned 
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4) and as per 
this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage ... zsync will NOT 
update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso so 
that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a CD and 
Install all over again, right? I just need to double check and make sure we are 
in the same page :)

Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do:

sudo apt-get upgradeand
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Isn't that enough?
Sorry of my questions are so silly but I'm very new in testing. Last time I 
tested Lubutnu 11.10 Beta 2 and that was for 10 days or more so didn't learn 
much stuff at that time. I'm very much willing to learn and understand more at 
the moment.

Thank you in advance and I wish whatever I do will help Lubuntu and Lubuntu 
Users. Yes, I know I did nothing yet but I'm doing my best.
Regards,amjjawad/A.J

 
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4


If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom, actually 
almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to burn a new 
disc!

I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in any 
way I can.


--- On Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:


From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com

Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM

Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.

I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details 
here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18


I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from 
time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

Hope it's clear now :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:


On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400

amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)



 Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download

 the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand

 true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how

 often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that

 daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much

 except waiting - any other website will be slow.



Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have 
an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever 
you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.





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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-23 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hi Lance,

Finally I can tell who is* kansasnoob* :)

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I saw it before (but honestly did not read it
all) and I just read it now.

One thing I'm in doubt about it:
I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the
updates and upgrades (
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I
want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all
this, I just need to do this*:

zsync
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


From Terminal and that is all, right?

Now, as per your post that you mentioned (
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4) and as per
this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage ... zsync will NOT
update the installed system but will update the previously downloaded iso
so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image and then you just need to burn a
CD and Install all over again, right? I just need to double check and make
sure we are in the same page :)

Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do:

sudo apt-get upgrade

and

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


Isn't that enough?

Sorry of my questions are so silly but I'm very new in testing. Last time I
tested Lubutnu 11.10 Beta 2 and that was for 10 days or more so didn't
learn much stuff at that time. I'm very much willing to learn and
understand more at the moment.

Thank you in advance and I wish whatever I do will help Lubuntu and Lubuntu
Users. Yes, I know I did nothing yet but I'm doing my best.

Regards,
amjjawad/A.J


On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Lance lbsol...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4

 If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom,
 actually almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to
 burn a new disc!

 I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in
 any way I can.

 --- On *Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com

 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
 To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
 Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM


 Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
 I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18
 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing
 from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

 Hope it's clear now :)

 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk 
 yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
  wrote:

 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=amjja...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
 
  Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
 download
  the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it
 stand
  true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
 how
  often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
  daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
 much
  except waiting - any other website will be slow.
 
 Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
 have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
 whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-23 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/23/2011 06:52 AM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:

 I have Lubuntu 12.04 installed and it's up and running. I have done all the
 updates and upgrades (
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11559293postcount=23) and now, I
 want to use zsync that I already installed. *From my understanding to all
 this, I just need to do this*:


 zsync 
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20111222/precise-desktop-i386.iso.zsync


You can't zsync already installed packages, you zsync an ISO image file.
 This updates it to a newer verson of that ISO image, without
re-downloading the parts that have not changed.

zsync is used for updating an ISO image file, one you can then burn to
CD, etc.  It is *not* a way to update an installed system.

 ... zsync will NOT update the installed system but will update the
 previously downloaded iso so that you'll get the LATEST Daily Image
 and then you just need to burn a CD and Install all over again,
 right?


Right.  Remember, this is for testing, which includes testing of
installation.

 Now, another doubt: What's the point from all the above if I do:
 
 sudo apt-get upgrade


This first one should be update not upgrade, I think.

 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade


That updates your existing, already installed, machine.  It does not
test the installer, or the installer slideshow, for example, which may
have been changed between the time you first installed Lubuntu and the
time you do the update.


 Isn't that enough?


No.  They do two *very* different things:

(1) An end user, wanting to keep their machine updated, can do

  sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade

to update their already-installed Lubuntu machine.

(2) ISO testers, who will retest installation of Lubuntu from the ISO
image on a variety of machines, and using a variety of different
installation options, need an updated ISO to do that kind of testing
with.  Using zsync can help such testers them obtain an updated ISO
image without wasting Internet bandwidth.

Jonathan

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-15 Thread Lance
Did you see my post late into Oneiric final testing:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11334389postcount=4

If any of that is the least bit confusing please PM me. You seldom, actually 
almost never, need to DL an entire new iso - but you will have to burn a new 
disc!

I appreciate your contribution to Lubuntu and I'll be glad to help you in any 
way I can.

--- On Tue, 12/13/11, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

From: amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing
To: Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com
Cc: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
Date: Tuesday, December 13, 2011, 4:04 PM

Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details 
here:http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18

I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from 
time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

Hope it's clear now :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400

amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:



 Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)



 Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download

 the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand

 true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how

 often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that

 daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much

 except waiting - any other website will be slow.



Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have 
an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever 
you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-13 Thread Yorvyk
On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
 
 Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to download
 the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it stand
 true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes, how
 often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
 daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do much
 except waiting - any other website will be slow.
 
Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already have 
an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily whichever 
you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-13 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18
I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing from
time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

Hope it's clear now :)

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
 
  Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
 download
  the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it
 stand
  true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
 how
  often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
  daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
 much
  except waiting - any other website will be slow.
 
 Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
 have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
 whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-12-13 Thread Phill Whiteside
Indeed,

the 1st time you zsync on an already installed ISO it goes and grabs the
entire darn thing again! Better, as advised, to use zsync to grab it in the
first instance.

Regards,

Phill.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sorry if my previous Email caused any confusion.
 I have downloaded The Daily Build (08-12) - more details here:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11535501postcount=18
 I was just wondering whether I have to keep downloading and installing
 from time to time? or just upgrade using zsync?

 Hope it's clear now :)


 On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Yorvyk yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:29:34 +0400
 amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Julien, Phill and Everyone :)
 
  Last time I did a test for Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2, Phill advised to
 download
  the daily build iso and install it rather than using zsync. Does it
 stand
  true on Alpha 1 as well? do I have to download the daily build? If yes,
 how
  often do I have to do that? obviously, it doesn't make sense to do that
  daily. My internet isn't that fast and during downloading, I can't do
 much
  except waiting - any other website will be slow.
 
 Not sure I really understand what you're saying here but, if you already
 have an ISO of Precise I would use zsync to update to Alpha1 or to a daily
 whichever you require as you realise it saves bandwidth and time.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 12.04 Alpha 1 Testing

2011-11-29 Thread amjjawad HOOHAA
Hello Julien,

I was unable to open this: http://91.189.93.73
Site is blocked by my ISP and anyway it doesn't seem a valid IP address
anyway.

Another thing: I understand testing in Virtual Machines (VirtualBox) is
SAFE but will that be the same as testing on real installation?
For someone like me who has spare PC and/or HDD, I don't think it will be a
problem but for someone who doesn't have, I think VirtualBox comes in
handy. Am I right?

I had some personal issues and problems in real life so not sure if I'll be
active in Testing but will do my best.

Keep up the good work and thanks for all your efforts :)

Ali/amjjawad


On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 The 1st Alpha of Lubuntu 12.04 is planned for Thurday. We started the
 ISO testing for Alpha 1, so if you want to help, you can join the
 testing process :)

 If you know how to use a virtual machine (Virtualbox) and how to install
 Lubuntu, you can help ! :) You can follow the steps on this wiki page :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures .

 We uses a new ISO tracker to collect the results : http://91.189.93.73 .
 There are 4 ISOs that you can test : Live CD (Desktop) and Alternate
 ISO, both on i386 and amd64. All need to be tested, to be able to
 publish an Alpha 1.

 To be short, just download the ISO, run it into VirtualBox, check the
 testcase on the page of the ISO, and report the result.

 You don't need any technical knowledge, and if you have questions, you
 can ask on #lubuntu or #ubuntu-testing.

 Thanks in advance ! :)

 Regards,
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