Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-25 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le jeudi 25 février 2010 à 06:10 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :
 Sorry, i mean the pw you choose during the installation. Space is Not  
 possiple for login with the GUI, but with console its okay.

Well is not a bug, it's more a protection in the GUI. You can do
anything with the console, but it doesn't mean it's a good idea :)

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-24 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks for testing.

Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 16:30 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :
 2.)The installation with sudo ubiquity goes quite fast. after half an
 hour, i could reboot and see the login window. One little graphical
 thing: what about making the logo there white, like it was
 illuminated? i tried it and that looks quite good, no matter if you
 use a blue or a green background.
Well, we try to be consistent in the artwork. The problem, everyone have
a different opinion on the artwork :) 

 3.) Sometimes on startup with the livecd i got this error-message:
 Error: unable to establish connection with FAM. Do you have Fam and
 Gamin installed and running? is there already a bug report, or what
 is it? Or is it something with pcmanfm, that will become batter with
 version2 ?
Let's try with the next Alpha, with pcmanfm2, to see if it's still the
case.

 4.)  Same with some icons. They seem to fall of the screen, they are
 not in the middle of the tab (how do you call them?)
Do you have a screenshot ?


 5.) Software we should add: gdebi-gtk and some games.
Should be added in the next Alpha.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-24 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 20:24 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :
 look, thats what i meant: 
 the icons arejust not in the middle. maybe its also an optical
 illusion because of the little line under the quicklaunchers that
 doesn't continue under the tabs.
Ok now I see it. Yes it seems to be a bug.

 and something i forgot: for root-pw i just pressed space and ignored
 the warnings. But the login window didn't take  space as a password,
 it just returned to the user-choice. On the console i could login and
 change the pw. 
You should not be able to login with root with the login manager. Or
maybe I don't understand what you mean ?

 Has sdl to many dependencies? if not, we could include that and write
 some easy games there.
Not sure we will include games, well I didn't find good idea/example to
include them properly. And sdl is still extra depends.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-24 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks for testing.

Le jeudi 25 février 2010 à 01:49 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit :
 Hello, everyone.
 
 
 I have been testing this iso for a week now. I have added Julien
 Lavergne's PPA. Everything is working good enough, 
Generally, adding my PPA is quite dangerous :) I made many changes for
testing, sometimes really unstable :) When I have something stable, I
put it in the Lubuntu PPA instead (or in the Ubuntu repo directly).

 except 4 things:
 1) pcmanfm2. It crashes almost everytime I've opened it. No auto-mount
 at all and even no mount. I can't mount any USB-drive at all. May be
 someone can help me?
The new pcmanfm2 seems really sensitive to incorrect config files. It
also crashed when showing hidden is enable. 

 When I create symlinks to the Desktop, they don't work.
Symlinks are also not implemented yet on pcmanfm2.

 2) unreadahead gives me a lot of errors during startup.
Do you have the same with a Ubuntu live-cd ?

 3) fskbsetting after installation (I think it should be included by
 default) gives me segmentation fault and won't work. So I can't switch
 from US to any other language using lxpanel-plugin.
Where do you find the fskbsetting ?

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-24 Thread Jo Gerb





Am 25.02.2010 um 00:22 schrieb Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com:


Le mercredi 24 février 2010 à 20:24 +0100, Jo Gerb a écrit :

look, thats what i meant:
the icons arejust not in the middle. maybe its also an optical
illusion because of the little line under the quicklaunchers that
doesn't continue under the tabs.

Ok now I see it. Yes it seems to be a bug.


and something i forgot: for root-pw i just pressed space and ignored
the warnings. But the login window didn't take  space as a password,
it just returned to the user-choice. On the console i could login and
change the pw.

You should not be able to login with root with the login manager. Or
maybe I don't understand what you mean ?


Sorry, i mean the pw you choose during the installation. Space is Not  
possiple for login with the GUI, but with console its okay.

Has sdl to many dependencies? if not, we could include that and write
some easy games there.
Not sure we will include games, well I didn't find good idea/example  
to

include them properly. And sdl is still extra depends.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-21 Thread Steve
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:36:41 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com  
wrote:



one more thing: has anyone ever installed a .deb? i tried it with the
proxy-GUI from Leszek, but it failed. XArchiver opened and gave a fail
(failed to execute child process ar (No such file or directory)). the
one synaptic-entry in all applications didnt do anything at all, the  
other
one opened the standard-synaptic window. And in the all applications  
tab

every program appeared two times, synaptic even three times. maybe these
both problems are caused by the VM, i couldnt test it on my pII cause  
theres

no internet-connection. i made some screenshots, if you don't know what i
mean. Please test if these problems appear also on your pc.
Thanks a lot, Jo.



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-21 Thread Steve
On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 09:36:41 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com  
wrote:


one more thing: has anyone ever installed a .deb? i tried it with the
proxy-GUI from Leszek, but it failed. XArchiver opened and gave a fail
(failed to execute child process ar (No such file or directory)). the
one synaptic-entry in all applications didnt do anything at all, the  
other

one opened the standard-synaptic window. And in the all applications tab
every program appeared two times, synaptic even three times. maybe these
both problems are caused by the VM, i couldnt test it on my pII cause  
theres

no internet-connection. i made some screenshots, if you don't know what i
mean. Please test if these problems appear also on your pc.
Thanks a lot, Jo.


It’s the same here.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-20 Thread Phill Whiteside
Re: battery indicator, it may be a generic 10.04 one,

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1411586

Has a simple work around  - it may, or may not, solve that problem for you.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Lee Briggs l...@leebriggs.co.uk wrote:

 Hi,

 I've had a quick test and I'd say there was a few things missing.

 There is no mouse cursor theme at the moment, can I recommennd
 dmz-cursor-theme from the repos.

 Also, creating a config file for Chromium in the skel directory might be
 useful.

 Also, might be just a problem for me, but the battery indicator didn't show
 up  - I'm guessing the icon is missing from the theme. The power manager is
 running, but there was no icon.

 Is there any plan to include two panels as opposed to the one, sticking
 with the Ubuntu/Xubuntu norm?

 Also, I'm aware you installed pidgin, but was any consideration ever given
 to ayttm? Its multi-protocol, super lightweight and pretty darn good.

 Will notify-osd be included or are you sticking with notification-daemon?

 I think thats all for now, if I think of anything else I'll send it in,
 overall its an excellent release

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-19 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks for the test.

Le mercredi 17 février 2010 à 19:20 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit :
 Hi.
 I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general,
 everything looks and works perfectly. However, there are some
 problems:
 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I
 think, that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's
 life.
I don't think people change the layout of their keyboard very often.
However, there is no easy way to configure this behavior.

 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by
 default. This empty space looks really strange.
It's a bug in gnome-power-manager.

 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
In progress.

 4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me
 haven't heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be
 it is not so necessary to be included, I think.
It's something to deal with calendar, tasks, contacts etc ... It could
be useful for a bunch of people.

 5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl,
 xscreensaver-gl-extra, xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of
 error messages telling me that there is no directory
 /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying.
I know, It's also annoying for me. I fixed it before, last upload
re-introduce the bug.

 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string
 like this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the
 keyboard it appears unexpectably.
I can't reproduce the problem. you should report a bug under lxterminal.

 7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting
 Close Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are
 configuring panel for example.
Please report bugs under programs which are affected, with the exact
windows affected.

 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has
 serious problems:
  - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard
 layout by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo
 lxpanelctl restart helped me.
  - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of
 people it will be hard to understand what do if they want enable
 autologin or so on.
For now, nothing exist, even upstream. It's something on the TODO list
but siomeone need to code it. See bug
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxdm/+bug/518415

  - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying
 file /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu
 (Menu-Games-...). It won't work.
 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to
 alsa-project.org, downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils,
 installed it. Run sudo alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound.
It's an alsa bug, not specific to Lubuntu. I think alsa was updated
recently on Lucid, maybe it will be fixed for the next update.

 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
 xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all
 its dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
Surely a temporary problem, Lubuntu is still based on Lucid, which is
unstable :)

 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
 segmentation fault. I don't know why.
You should report a bug on this package.

 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?
gnome-games have too much depends on gnome stuff. If you have other idea
for little games, maybe :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-18 Thread Leszek Lesner
My favorite color is blue. 

+1 blue 

IMHO green looks like mildew.
But I totally agree we need to take the theme that is complete and gets the 
most votes. For this purpose I will definitely upgrade my NewWave Theme for 
Lubuntu in the next couple of days (most work will be done on weekend I guess) 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/NewWave

So that we will have a choice ;) 


On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:16:38 +
Jonay Santana jonay.sant...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 for green. Light green, better.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-17 Thread Mike Nokel

 Hi.

I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
This empty space looks really strange.
3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me haven't
heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
necessary to be included, I think.
5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra,
xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of error messages telling me that
there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying.
6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
appears unexpectably.
7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting Close
Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
panel for example.
8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
problems:
 - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo lxpanelctl restart
helped me.
 - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
will be hard to understand what do if they want enable autologin or so on.
 - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
/etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu-Games-...). It
won't work.
9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run sudo
alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound.
10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
segmentation fault. I don't know why.
12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?

So, this is my first experience.

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-17 Thread Sylkis
1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)

2010/2/17 Mike Nokel mno...@gmail.com:
 Hi.

 I have found some time to install it on my computer. In general, everything
 looks and works perfectly. However, there are some problems:
 1) by default, there is no keyboard layout controller on the panel. I think,
 that it should be there. A lot of people uses it in everyday's life.
 2) as for battery monitor on the panel: it should be visible by default.
 This empty space looks really strange.
 3) there is still pcmanfm 0.5.2, not pcmanfm2(
 4) you have included osmo as a default program. My friends and me haven't
 heard about this program before. And in everyday life may be it is not so
 necessary to be included, I think.
 5) without installing packages xscreensaver-gl, xscreensaver-gl-extra,
 xscreensaver-data-extra I see a lot of error messages telling me that
 there is no directory /usr/share/backgrounds. It is annoying.
 6) when I launch lxterminal, appeared the window without any string like
 this: ubu...@ubuntu:~/. But when you hit any key on the keyboard it
 appears unexpectably.
 7) some buttons such as OK, Cancel just don't work (only hitting Close
 Window helped me to close the windows). It is so when you are configuring
 panel for example.
 8) you have used LXDM as a login manager. It is perfect, but it has serious
 problems:
      - when I enable autologin on it, I just can't switch my keyboard layout
 by hitting on the applet on the panel. Only typing sudo lxpanelctl restart
 helped me.
      - there is no gui-program to configure LXDM yet. For a lot of people it
 will be hard to understand what do if they want enable autologin or so on.
      - using LXDM I can't modify PATH variable (even modifying file
 /etc/profile), so I can't play any games using menu (Menu-Games-...). It
 won't work.
 9) sound card by default doesn't work. So, I have gone to alsa-project.org,
 downloaded the latest driver, lib and utils, installed it. Run sudo
 alsaconf and after reboot I heart the sound.
 10) I've got ati radeon 4670 video, but when I tried to install
 xorg-driver-fglrx, it tells me that he wants to remove xorg with all its
 dependencies. Strange behaviour. So, I have only poor 3D now(
 11) I've tried to install fskbsetting. But when launching it gives me
 segmentation fault. I don't know why.
 12) May be there should be some games, at least some gnome-games?
 So, this is my first experience.
 Regards,
 Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-17 Thread josef A. Beroeatwarin

Hello again
 Its working very nice..and for the nm-applet much better that wicd.
I ditch the chromium browser because its no my flavor in my opinion.
I have only one small problem with my wireless broadband. I use
huawei e220. its Doesn't detected in nm-applet but in lsusb it is detected.
In the  first alpha stage it was working with NM-applet with the latest 
kernel upgrade.

Tonight I will try again using PPP or wvdial.

Somebody talk about games.. where is the tread?? :-D
I really need 2 games that is really working on my netbook :-D

Gdebi installer would be nice or something like that in Lubuntu??

 And does Gdebi really help for people that has no internet. Because in 
Indonesia
not everybody can affort internet connection. And even if they have 
it,it will be cellphone using as modems.
 It would be nice if there is something like that for updating packages 
or what-ever to install/update without internet

in deb packages.

thanks
Josef A. Beroeatwarin...


Mike Nokel wrote:

2010/2/17 Sylkis syl...@gmail.com mailto:syl...@gmail.com

1) a lot of people hide it away, or even disable, when using windows,
as most people dont need it and it causes problems, when the lng gets
switched (in poland it used to be very common quite a few years ago,
that Y and Z were switching because of some key shortcut that was
unnknown to most users) - i think that feature is good only for truly
biligual people (like people living in foreign country), and there are
relatively few of them
2) stationary PC's don't have batteries, and this is supposed to be
for old computers in the first place, not netbooks...

12) the games issue has been started today in another thread :)


1) ok. It was only my opinion.
2) I understand. May be then remove it from panel? Empty space isn't 
good idea, I think.

12) Oh, I see. Thank you.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Steve
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com  
wrote:



Hi,

I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
* Main changes in the seed :
 - chromium for the browser
 - gnome-mplayer for the videos
 - network-manager for the network
* New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
it :)
* A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
login ubuntu without password.

Known bugs:
* pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as normal.
* Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh install  
is a success or not.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Dallas Wiebelhaus
This is shaping up very very well.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com
 wrote:

  Hi,

 I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
 snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
 Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
 see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

 Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
 system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
 frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
 and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

 Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
 * Main changes in the seed :
  - chromium for the browser
  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
  - network-manager for the network
 * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
 quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
 it :)
 * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
 to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
 login ubuntu without password.

 Known bugs:
 * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
 to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2
 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
 you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as normal.
 * Bug reported during testing :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

 Download : 
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.isohttp://people.ubuntu.com/%7Egilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne


  Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh install
 is a success or not.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Steve
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:46:11 -, Steve yorvik.ubu...@googlemail.com  
wrote:


On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 01:13:19 -, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com  
wrote:



Hi,

I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
* Main changes in the seed :
 - chromium for the browser
 - gnome-mplayer for the videos
 - network-manager for the network
* New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
it :)
* A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
login ubuntu without password.

Known bugs:
* pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as normal.
* Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


Currently booting, will let you know in 3-4 hours whether a fresh  
install is a success or not.


I’m impressed so far 1hr 45 mins to install.  Beats the old alpha2 at 3-4  
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Mike Nokel
Hi!
It's great! Nice artwork! Respect for including such applications as
hardware drivers, printing, languages by default. It now looks very
user-friendly.
However, there are some minor problems:
1) a lot of errors when changing screensavers. It can be solved by creating
directory /usr/share/backgrounds by default.
2) as was discussed earlier when clicking Desktop Session Settings the tab
Desktop should be opened, not Interface.
3) why have you choosen xfburn to include? I think that the most popular
area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks and they just
don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is unnecessary.

I have tested on my netbook HP 1233 - everything is working perfectly, and
using by default 110 Mb out of 1Gb is impressive (with Ubuntu 9.10 mini.iso
+ LXDE it uses after startup nearly 155 Mb). However, if there is xsplash I
haven't seen it, may be because of my videocard (Via Chrome9), I don't know.

I have also tried to run livecd on my notebook Asus M51TR. However, all that
I have seen was Lubuntu logo for approximately 1 minute after what there
came a kernel panic. I'll try to find solution but exactly now I don't know
why it is happening so.

In conclusion, I would like to say that it looks perfect and amazing. Thank
you!

Regards,
Michael.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Jo Gerb


Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV,  
360 MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it  
First seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes  
with Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and  
no icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for  
network, maybe we should use another one. The System itself is  
extremely slow, but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-))  
maybe we could use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint  
or so. The People we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer  
them in lubuntu is too complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write  
again later. Have a nice time, Jo


Am 15.02.2010 um 19:14 schrieb Leszek Lesner leszek.les...@web.de:


On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 +
Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:


Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.

Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
with that? you know what everyone will say!


It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now  
using it too). Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your  
graphicscard is not supported well enough.
In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver)  
and intel will show a nice splash screen.





Other than that, I like it, running it in a VBOX with 384 RAM,
everything seems snappy. Will do further testing and post any bugs I
find later.

Thanks Julien.

Glen



On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com  
wrote:

Hi,

I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new  
features.
Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered  
stable,

see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a  
stable
system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional,  
even
frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu  
developers

and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
* Main changes in the seed :
 - chromium for the browser
 - gnome-mplayer for the videos
 - network-manager for the network
* New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but  
it's
quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I  
like

it :)
* A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You  
need
to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and  
enter

login ubuntu without password.

Known bugs:
* pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more  
integration

to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2
* If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment  
when
you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as  
normal.

* Bug reported during testing :
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu- 
lucid-20100215.iso


Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Steve
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:10:47 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com  
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Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV, 360  
MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First  
seems like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with  
Black screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no  
icons there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network,  
maybe we should use another one. The System itself is extremely slow,  
but thats the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could  
use something else for the graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People  
we aim at are used to ms paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too  
complicated. Ill go on in testing and ill write again later. Have a nice  
time, Jo


That’s a similar rig to the one I’m using to test on. It’s more than  
likely a PII CPU at that speed, by the way.
Have you tested sound yet, I had to install a driver as on mine.   
Interesting running with minimal resources isn’t it. :)

Have fun!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Steve
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:10:47 -, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com  
wrote:



Ok, i built up an old System with Pentium (i don't know if II or IV, 360  
MHz) and 128 MBytes of RAM. It Takes very Long to boot and it First seems  
like the pc wouldnt respond any more, but about 10 minutes with Black  
screen you can see the panel and the Cursor- no Desktop and no icons  
there. I didnt realize the arrow-Symbol to be the One for network, maybe  
we should use another one. The System itself is extremely slow, but thats  
the hardware (im just used to my 4gb RAM:-)) maybe we could use something  
else for the graphics , like kolourpaint or so. The People we aim at are  
used to ms paint, and what we offer them in lubuntu is too complicated.  
Ill go on in testing and ill write again later. Have a nice time, Jo


If you run hardinfo it will tell you what CPU you have along with other  
useful (and not so useful) information.


System Tools  System Profiler and Benchmark

It might be interesting to compare the benchmarks from that program.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Glen Bizeau
VBOX

installed in a virtual machine, see grub loading and then a _

Thats it...anyone have any insight into this?

Live CD works fine.

Thanks

Glen

On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
 snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
 Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
 see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

 Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
 system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
 frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
 and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

 Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
 * Main changes in the seed :
  - chromium for the browser
  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
  - network-manager for the network
 * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
 quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
 it :)
 * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
 to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
 login ubuntu without password.

 Known bugs:
 * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
 to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2
 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
 you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as normal.
 * Bug reported during testing :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

 Download : http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Dwain Sims
Here is a quick report on the current cut on an older laptop.

HP Omnibook 910
PIII 500 MHz
320 MB Memory
with 3Com 3CCFEM556B 10/100 PC Card
and SMC 2835W wireless card

Lubuntu seems to boot fine, a little slow, but it looks nice on the old
LCD.   Eraser head style mouse seems to work fine.

However, I could not seem to find a way to configure the wireless card.
That is when I checked, and the distro is not detecting either of the two PC
cards in the system.  So no report on browser speed.

The system did not automatically mount a flash drive.  I was able to mount
manually.

Sound does work;  I was able to play an ogg file via mplayer off of the
flash drive.

Hope this helps.

Dwain
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Zoltan Matlak
VERY nice! Looks (and feels) more and more professional. It's shaping up
nicely. Congrats.
Zoltan

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Hi,

 I just created a new testing ISO. This is not an Alpha, but just a
 snapshot of the current work to be able to test more the new features.
 Like others Alpha, you should be aware that it's not considered stable,
 see warnings for Lucid Alpha :

 Pre-releases of Lucid are *not* encouraged for anyone needing a stable
 system or anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even
 frequent breakage.  They are, however, recommended for Ubuntu developers
 and those who want to help in testing, reporting, and fixing bugs.

 Changes seen the Alpha 2 :
 * Main changes in the seed :
  - chromium for the browser
  - gnome-mplayer for the videos
  - network-manager for the network
 * New artwork made by Rafael Laguna. It's not the final theme, but it's
 quite complete, so we can test with a non standard artwork. And I like
 it :)
 * A new session (Lubuntu-Netbook), which launched lxlauncher. You need
 to logout, select Lubuntu-Netbook session instead of Lubuntu, and enter
 login ubuntu without password.

 Known bugs:
 * pcmanfm2 is not the default filemanager yet, it need more integration
 to be usable. It is still available by using pcmanfm2
 * If you test on a USB, the first screen will freeze for a moment when
 you click on Try Lubuntu  Just wait, it will continue as normal.
 * Bug reported during testing :
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam

 Download : 
 http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.isohttp://people.ubuntu.com/%7Egilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso

 Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Steve
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:50:02 -, jeroen merks jeroen_c...@hotmail.com  
wrote:




Hello guys,
Im new at Lubuntu and mailinglists, but not for Ubuntu and Linux.Im  
following the mails for some time now...I joined you guys because I have  
very old laptop that is almost the same like discribed below and Xubuntu  
was a bit too slow for me.I experience the same things as discribed  
below.Very slow boot (usb1) and many graphical glitches when  
booting.After like 20 minutes I tried to install it but the shortcut  
didnt respond.Not really a surprize but I think it isnt the way it meant  
to be. If you guys have any questions I could test with my laptop please  
ask them.Just like sound and stuff...Im not sure this is the way to use  
a mailing list, but you guys look to be very nice.

Keep up the good work !


Did you manage to get Lubuntu installed?
Did you use this version (the latest)  
http://people.ubuntu.com/~gilir/lubuntu-lucid-20100215.iso


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks for the report.

Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 18:54 +0300, Mike Nokel a écrit :

 However, there are some minor problems:
 1) a lot of errors when changing screensavers. It can be solved by
 creating directory /usr/share/backgrounds by default.
See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/129769 

 2) as was discussed earlier when clicking Desktop Session Settings
 the tab Desktop should be opened, not Interface.
It's part of the pcmanfm2 integration, should be fixed at this point.

 3) why have you choosen xfburn to include? I think that the most
 popular area for installing LXDE (and of course Lubuntu) are netbooks
 and they just don't have any CD/DVD-ROMs... In my opinion, it is
 unnecessary.
There is also old hardware with old CD burner. It's pretty common to
have a CD/DVD burner by default :)


 I have tested on my netbook HP 1233 - everything is working perfectly,
 and using by default 110 Mb out of 1Gb is impressive (with Ubuntu 9.10
 mini.iso + LXDE it uses after startup nearly 155 Mb). However, if
 there is xsplash I haven't seen it, may be because of my videocard
 (Via Chrome9), I don't know.
It's now plymouth which is used. It required kernel mode-settings,
available for ATI, Intel and for Nvidia via the nouveau driver. If it's
not available, you should fallback to a blue progress bar.

 I have also tried to run livecd on my notebook Asus M51TR. However,
 all that I have seen was Lubuntu logo for approximately 1 minute after
 what there came a kernel panic. I'll try to find solution but exactly
 now I don't know why it is happening so.
That will be interesting to test with a Ubuntu daily build, to see if
it's not a general problem for Lucid.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 19:14 +0100, Leszek Lesner a écrit :
 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 12:18:05 +
 Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Did a quick download and run in a VBOX this AM.
  
  Te first thing I noticed is the same stratup bar as fedora??? Whats
  with that? you know what everyone will say!
 
 It is simply plymouth (yeah Fedora invented it and Ubuntu is now using it 
 too). Seeing only the blue bar is a indicator that your graphicscard is not 
 supported well enough.
 In the final version nvidia (thx to nouveau) ati (open ati driver) and intel 
 will show a nice splash screen. 

It's also the case for any Vbox users, because if I understand right,
Vbox driver is not KMS capable inside the guest. You can test the
plymouth theme only on a real system.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne 


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 12:20 +, Glen Bizeau a écrit :
 One more thing...
 
 The connected ICON for Network Manager is two arrows, one up the other
 down, which persdonally to me does not indicate a network connection.
 Can we change this back to the default one of two computers? it
 doesn't even look like a network manager this way, or at least even
 the ubuntu one where it looks like two sockets plugged in...

You should file a bug against elementary icons
(https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/elementaryicons), maybe they have a
good reason to do it that way.

Regards,
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] New testing ISO 20100215

2010-02-15 Thread Julien Lavergne
Thanks for the test.

Le lundi 15 février 2010 à 16:23 -0500, Dwain Sims a écrit :
 Here is a quick report on the current cut on an older laptop.
 
 HP Omnibook 910
 PIII 500 MHz
 320 MB Memory
 with 3Com 3CCFEM556B 10/100 PC Card
 and SMC 2835W wireless card
 
 Lubuntu seems to boot fine, a little slow, but it looks nice on the
 old LCD.   Eraser head style mouse seems to work fine.
 
 However, I could not seem to find a way to configure the wireless
 card.  That is when I checked, and the distro is not detecting either
 of the two PC cards in the system.  So no report on browser speed.
You should have 2 arrows on the bottom right, which is the network
utility. If you see device not manager, it's a problem in
network-manager. See http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager and the
section Wired Networks are Unmanaged

 The system did not automatically mount a flash drive.  I was able to
 mount manually.  
Yes, there is actually no automounting. Something that need to be fixed.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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