Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

[Jonathan Marsden]

On 12/21/2011 01:48 AM, PCMan wrote:

> So, does anyone know any distro without this issue?


That is likely to be *extremely* specific to the model of laptop.

Did you look at the info I pointed to at

  http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed

and try out the tools suggested there for managing fan control on a
Thinkpad?  Did any of them work?  What exactly happens when you try?

For example, with the thinkpad_acpi module loaded, if you do

  echo level 7 > /proc/acpi/ibm/fan

do you get the fan running at maximum speed?

> I'm not able to do development under Ubuntu as the laptop shutdown

> unexpectedly while I'm coding.


Instead of trying to randomly switch distros, spend a little time
working on the hardware fan control that your machine has, with the
software that Debian and Lubuntu make available to you for doing that...
you are a developer, not a newcomer, so you really should be able to
work through this issue and solve it.

Worst case, if the machine has enough RAM, you could run Lubuntu in a VM
under Windows :)

Jonathan


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

[Phill Whiteside]

Already mentioned, but the cooling mats for laptops are very inexpensive.
My laptop was struggling during our unusually hot summer and the usb
powered mat solved the problem.

Regards,

Phill.

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Yorvyk wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:27:21 +0400
> amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:
>
> >
> > I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update.
> As
> > for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I
> > have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux.
> >
> Depending on the manafacturer therare a variety of ways of updating the
> BIOS.
>
> Some provide a bootable ISO which uses FreeDOS or you may be able to
> concoct your own using FreeDOS.   http://www.freedos.org/
>
> I've had some success with FlashROM which is available in the repos.
> http://flashrom.org/
>
> Another option is to temporary install Windows if you have a copy that
> came with the machine, especially if the manufacturer's site has an
> automated tool for telling you which updates are required.  Until recently
> I've been using a '60 day' evaluation copy of WinXP for this purpose if the
> above doesn't work.  Sadly a lot of recent machines require Vista or Win 7
> for this sort of tool.
>
> Even if the BIOS upgrade doesn't mention your problem it may well be worth
> updating as manufacturers don't always tell you everything the BIOS update
> resolves.  It may also be useful to look at firmware updates for the hard
> drive as well.
>
> The other thing to look at is cleaning the vents, heat-sink and fan to
> ensure good airflow.
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

[Yorvyk]

On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 12:27:21 +0400
amjjawad HOOHAA  wrote:

> 
> I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update. As
> for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I
> have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux.
> 
Depending on the manafacturer therare a variety of ways of updating the BIOS.

Some provide a bootable ISO which uses FreeDOS or you may be able to concoct 
your own using FreeDOS.   http://www.freedos.org/

I've had some success with FlashROM which is available in the repos. 
http://flashrom.org/

Another option is to temporary install Windows if you have a copy that came 
with the machine, especially if the manufacturer's site has an automated tool 
for telling you which updates are required.  Until recently I've been using a 
'60 day' evaluation copy of WinXP for this purpose if the above doesn't work.  
Sadly a lot of recent machines require Vista or Win 7 for this sort of tool.

Even if the BIOS upgrade doesn't mention your problem it may well be worth 
updating as manufacturers don't always tell you everything the BIOS update 
resolves.  It may also be useful to look at firmware updates for the hard drive 
as well.

The other thing to look at is cleaning the vents, heat-sink and fan to ensure 
good airflow.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

[PCMan]

So, does anyone know any distro without this issue?
I'm not able to do development under Ubuntu as the laptop shutdown
unexpectedly while I'm coding.
So sad. :-(

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Andrew Woodhead <
andrew.woodhead...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 21 December 2011 08:47, Andrew Woodhead 
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 21 December 2011 04:58, PCMan  wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi list,
>>> I have a long-standing unresolved issue on my Thinkpad R60 laptop.
>>> My Lubuntu gets overheat and performs shutdown automatically frequently.
>>> This happens since ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 and I never suffered from this
>>> issue.
>>> Recently, the overheat problem became more and more severe and I'm not
>>> able to use Ubuntu sometimes.
>>> Switching to Windows xp and Vista fixed this problem. The temperature
>>> was quite low under Windows.
>>> I did some google search and found that it's a notorious problem of
>>> ubuntu.
>>> Unfortunately, I did not find any good solution to this.
>>> When I compile programs and browse web pages/documentations at the same
>>> time,
>>> the load of my laptop gets high and it becomes overheated easily.
>>> So recently I mainly use Windows xp.
>>> Please help if anyone has the right solution for this.
>>> Otherwise I have difficulty keep using Lubuntu and do programming under
>>> Linux.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
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>> Do you have the latest BIOS? Are there bugs reported with acpi?
>>
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/213818
>
> Looks like it
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

[amjjawad HOOHAA]

Hello PCMan,

We had two HP Laptops at home, both are Pavilion DV6 (Windows 7) and DV5
(Ubuntu 10.04). The overheating problem was there for both except DV6 was
working while DV5 was shutting down even though we are using two cooling
fans.

I called HP and we managed to fix the problem on DV6 with a BIOS Update. As
for DV5 one, they couldn't help because it has Linux (Ubuntu 10.04) and I
have no clue how to update the BIOS while on Linux.

As far as I know, BIOS is controlling the Fan Speed and if there is no
hardware failure (fan is still working) then, as in my case, the BIOS
update will fix that.

Just a thought but in your case, it might be something else. Check the fan
and see if it's working. Try to buy a cooling fan if you don't have one
already.

Hope that helps!

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:58 AM, PCMan  wrote:

> Hi list,
> I have a long-standing unresolved issue on my Thinkpad R60 laptop.
> My Lubuntu gets overheat and performs shutdown automatically frequently.
> This happens since ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 and I never suffered from this
> issue.
> Recently, the overheat problem became more and more severe and I'm not
> able to use Ubuntu sometimes.
> Switching to Windows xp and Vista fixed this problem. The temperature was
> quite low under Windows.
> I did some google search and found that it's a notorious problem of ubuntu.
> Unfortunately, I did not find any good solution to this.
> When I compile programs and browse web pages/documentations at the same
> time,
> the load of my laptop gets high and it becomes overheated easily.
> So recently I mainly use Windows xp.
> Please help if anyone has the right solution for this.
> Otherwise I have difficulty keep using Lubuntu and do programming under
> Linux.
>
> Thanks
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Unresolved overheat issue blocks development

[Jonathan Marsden]

On 12/20/2011 08:58 PM, PCMan wrote:

> I have a long-standing unresolved issue on my Thinkpad R60 laptop.
> My Lubuntu gets overheat and performs shutdown automatically frequently. ...


There is some fairly detailed info on Thinkpad fan control under Linux at

  http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_control_fan_speed

I don't own a Thinkpad, but this mentions both Ubuntu and Debian, and so
could be worth a look, even though it looks a little old.

Jonathan

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