Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Chris]

I don't think it's a feature you can easily disable. But a mention in the
Release Notes would be great. Then we only need to refer to the Release
Notes when questions arrive.

With metta,

Chris Druif

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 23:47, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le Wednesday 20 April 2011 à 20:26 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit :
> > It would be best if it didn't appear on the toolbar.
>
> It's the case in Natty. It should avoid some questions about this.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Julien Lavergne]

Le Wednesday 20 April 2011 à 20:26 +0100, Yorvyk a écrit :
> It would be best if it didn't appear on the toolbar.

It's the case in Natty. It should avoid some questions about this.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Yorvyk]

On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 04:50:37 +1000
Jared Norris  wrote:

>  Good morning all,
> 
> Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents:
> 
> On 21 April 2011 03:26, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> 
> >
> > I already tested it on my testing system, and it made my system unusable
> > because of the indexing.
> > I also can't see the real benefit over the regular search option in
> > Synaptic.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Julien Lavergne
> >
> >
> >
> I agree 100% percent with this. Whenever update-apt-xapian runs my computer
> becomes completely useless for some time and has also overheated some of my
> friend's computers. I think something like this is best dealt with by adding
> a note to the release notes? We do get a fair few questions on this in IRC
> each release so a note in the release notes would probably assist most
> users.
> 
> 
As Jared and Julian said, it does tend to swamp low end machines while indexing 
and it really isn't that useful. It would be best if it didn't appear on the 
toolbar.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Jared Norris]

 Good morning all,

Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents:

On 21 April 2011 03:26, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>
> I already tested it on my testing system, and it made my system unusable
> because of the indexing.
> I also can't see the real benefit over the regular search option in
> Synaptic.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
>
I agree 100% percent with this. Whenever update-apt-xapian runs my computer
becomes completely useless for some time and has also overheated some of my
friend's computers. I think something like this is best dealt with by adding
a note to the release notes? We do get a fair few questions on this in IRC
each release so a note in the release notes would probably assist most
users.


Regards,

Jared Norris JP(Qual) BBehSc(Psych)
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JaredNorris
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Greyson Farias]

Which version? 11.04 Beta 2? I don't use Synaptic too. Command line is fast
and I can to see better...

2011/4/20 Tim Bernhard 

>  I don't use Synaptic very often so, while I would like having it for
> convenience sake, it's not a deal breaker for me.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>
>> Le Wednesday 20 April 2011 à 11:33 +, Chris Druif a écrit :
>> >
>> > So please consider to add this to the default installation and thanks
>> > for considering it.
>>
>> I already tested it on my testing system, and it made my system unusable
>> because of the indexing.
>> I also can't see the real benefit over the regular search option in
>> Synaptic.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Julien Lavergne
>>
>>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Tim Bernhard]

 I don't use Synaptic very often so, while I would like having it for
convenience sake, it's not a deal breaker for me.

Tim

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le Wednesday 20 April 2011 à 11:33 +, Chris Druif a écrit :
> >
> > So please consider to add this to the default installation and thanks
> > for considering it.
>
> I already tested it on my testing system, and it made my system unusable
> because of the indexing.
> I also can't see the real benefit over the regular search option in
> Synaptic.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Julien Lavergne]

Le Wednesday 20 April 2011 à 11:33 +, Chris Druif a écrit :
> 
> So please consider to add this to the default installation and thanks
> for considering it. 

I already tested it on my testing system, and it made my system unusable
because of the indexing.
I also can't see the real benefit over the regular search option in
Synaptic.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[Leszek Lesner]

Am Mittwoch 20 April 2011, um 13:33:06 schrieb Chris Druif:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> I know it's too late for "new" features for natty, so my request is for
> oneiric. Currently the "Quick search" feature is disabled by default
> with a fresh install, however to make it functional only one of it's
> "recommended" packages needs to be installed as well. This package is
> "apt-xapian-index" (technical information below) which in my opinion is
> a small package to add a greatly appreciative feature of synaptic.
> 
> Additional information about it can be found with apt-cache show "apt-
> xapian-index" in terminal. Only the python-xapian dependency wasn't
> installed, who's information I'll also send with this mail.
> 
> So please consider to add this to the default installation and thanks
> for considering it.
> 
> With metta,
> 
> Chris Druif
> Technical information:
> ...

I think it does also need to run to create the index before you can use it. I 
don't if its done only by installing the missing package.  I know in KDE world 
muon packagemanager does update the xapian index when installing (in the 
postinst script). Synaptic does not do this so it needs to be run manually 
which might be a little bit complicated when using an automatic build 
procedure.

But in general +1 for this.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Upgrading Synaptic

[matthew byers]

+1 on that notion

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Chris Druif  wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I know it's too late for "new" features for natty, so my request is for
> oneiric. Currently the "Quick search" feature is disabled by default
> with a fresh install, however to make it functional only one of it's
> "recommended" packages needs to be installed as well. This package is
> "apt-xapian-index" (technical information below) which in my opinion is
> a small package to add a greatly appreciative feature of synaptic.
>
> Additional information about it can be found with apt-cache show "apt-
> xapian-index" in terminal. Only the python-xapian dependency wasn't
> installed, who's information I'll also send with this mail.
>
> So please consider to add this to the default installation and thanks
> for considering it.
>
> With metta,
>
> Chris Druif
> Technical information:
>
> Package: apt-xapian-index
> Priority: optional
> Section: admin
> Installed-Size: 240
> Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers 
> Original-Maintainer: Enrico Zini 
> Architecture: all
> Version: 0.25ubuntu2
> Depends: python, python-xapian (>= 1.0.2), python-apt (>= 0.7.93.2),
> python-debian (>= 0.1.13)
> Filename: pool/main/a/apt-xapian-index/apt-xapian-
> index_0.25ubuntu2_all.deb
> Size: 37506
>
> Package: python-xapian
> Priority: optional
> Section: python
> Installed-Size: 1064
> Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers 
> Original-Maintainer: Olly Betts 
> Architecture: i386
> Source: xapian-bindings
> Version: 1.0.17-1ubuntu1
> Replaces: python2.1-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.2-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3),
> python2.3-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.4-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3)
> Provides: python2.6-xapian
> Depends: python (<< 2.7), python (>= 2.6), python-central (>= 0.6.11),
> libc6 (>= 2.4), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), libxapian15
> (>= 1.0.17)
> Suggests: xapian-doc
> Conflicts: python2.1-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.2-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3),
> python2.3-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3), python2.4-xapian (<< 0.9.6-3)
> Filename: pool/main/x/xapian-bindings/python-
> xapian_1.0.17-1ubuntu1_i386.deb
> Size: 297388
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