Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro. In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict. Best regards, Jo. 2010/4/11 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com Ubuntu beta 2 just came out. So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from git since there are some important fixes. It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but we'll be ready at the time of 10.10. At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so things are going to be improved. In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time to support them and provide better user experience. In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components to test new features. Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop environment. So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to release a buggy one. Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10. I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever. Cheers! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
This makes sense. Since we're not in Ubuntu family, there is no need to follow ubuntu schedule. Let's take the time and make a good release rather than do things in a hurry. Another benefit for the delay I found: After ubuntu 10.04 release, there must be tons of bugs found. This is predictable. So, when we release, many bugs should have been fixed then we can make a more stable release, isn't it?. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote: i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro. In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict. Best regards, Jo. 2010/4/11 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com Ubuntu beta 2 just came out. So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from git since there are some important fixes. It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but we'll be ready at the time of 10.10. At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so things are going to be improved. In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time to support them and provide better user experience. In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components to test new features. Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop environment. So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to release a buggy one. Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10. I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever. Cheers! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
PCMan schrieb: This makes sense. Since we're not in Ubuntu family, there is no need to follow ubuntu schedule. Let's take the time and make a good release rather than do things in a hurry. Another benefit for the delay I found: After ubuntu 10.04 release, there must be tons of bugs found. This is predictable. So, when we release, many bugs should have been fixed then we can make a more stable release, isn't it?. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jo Gerbjo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote: i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro. In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict. Best regards, Jo. 2010/4/11 PCManpcman...@gmail.com Ubuntu beta 2 just came out. So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from git since there are some important fixes. It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but we'll be ready at the time of 10.10. At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so things are going to be improved. In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time to support them and provide better user experience. In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components to test new features. Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop environment. So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to release a buggy one. Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10. I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever. Cheers! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp Agreed. My experience especially with ZevenOS releases shows me that aprox. 1 month after Ubuntu release is a good time to release a ubuntu based distro as almost every critical bug has been fixed till then. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit : Ubuntu beta 2 just came out. So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? Today I hope :) Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from git since there are some important fixes. Already done :) It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but we'll be ready at the time of 10.10. This will not stop us to do a release :) I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
OK, maybe some press release will be good. BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene. Please update again. :-) Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very often. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit : Ubuntu beta 2 just came out. So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? Today I hope :) Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from git since there are some important fixes. Already done :) It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but we'll be ready at the time of 10.10. This will not stop us to do a release :) I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Yeahh..Generating expectation, is a great advantage! :) 2010/4/11 Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a small advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the other websites and blogs. - Original Message From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? OK, maybe some press release will be good. BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene. Please update again. :-) Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very often. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com; href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit : Ubuntu beta 2 just came out. So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? Today I hope :) Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from git since there are some important fixes. Already done :) It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but we'll be ready at the time of 10.10. This will not stop us to do a release :) I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : ymailto=mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net; href=mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net; lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : href=https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp; target=_blank https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Hi, I've always advised people that lubuntu has to run a little later than 'main'. I'd back this with the fact the devs for 'main' did hold a beta back by 24 hours because of issues; in fact going back to 6.06 was help back precisely because of that. I totally support and am in 100% favour of yourselves holding a release back and leave it marked as beta until you are all ready. There are plenty enough people already 'playing' with Lubuntu to make the first full 'official' release a good one, we are patient and you possibly under estimate the general level of good-will that there is for this new member of the family. Besides, have you ever watched the wildlife programmes on Meerkats? Lubuntu will be a pretty darn good Maverick Meerkat :-D Thanks and regards to you all, Phill. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Muntaner dan...@muntaner.netwrote: Yeahh..Generating expectation, is a great advantage! :) 2010/4/11 Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a small advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the other websites and blogs. - Original Message From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? OK, maybe some press release will be good. BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene. Please update again. :-) Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very often. On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com; href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit : Ubuntu beta 2 just came out. So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2? Today I hope :) Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from git since there are some important fixes. Already done :) It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but we'll be ready at the time of 10.10. This will not stop us to do a release :) I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date. Regards, Julien Lavergne ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : ymailto=mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net; href=mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net; lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : href=https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp; target=_blank https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktophttps://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp