Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Jo Gerb
i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

Best regards, Jo.

2010/4/11 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com

 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
 At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
 things are going to be improved.
 In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
 to support them and provide better user experience.

 In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
 to test new features.
 Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
 need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
 environment.
 So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
 release a buggy one.
 Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
 I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

 Cheers!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread PCMan
This makes sense.
Since we're not in Ubuntu family, there is no need to follow ubuntu schedule.
Let's take the time and make a good release rather than do things in a hurry.
Another benefit for the delay I found:
After ubuntu 10.04 release, there must be tons of bugs found. This is
predictable.
So, when we release, many bugs should have been fixed then we can make
a more stable release, isn't it?.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jo Gerb jo.ge.s...@googlemail.com wrote:
 i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
 beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
 programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
 lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
 In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

 Best regards, Jo.

 2010/4/11 PCMan pcman...@gmail.com

 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
 At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
 things are going to be improved.
 In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
 to support them and provide better user experience.

 In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
 to test new features.
 Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
 need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
 environment.
 So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
 release a buggy one.
 Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
 I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

 Cheers!

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Leszek Lesner

PCMan schrieb:

This makes sense.
Since we're not in Ubuntu family, there is no need to follow ubuntu schedule.
Let's take the time and make a good release rather than do things in a hurry.
Another benefit for the delay I found:
After ubuntu 10.04 release, there must be tons of bugs found. This is
predictable.
So, when we release, many bugs should have been fixed then we can make
a more stable release, isn't it?.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Jo Gerbjo.ge.s...@googlemail.com  wrote:
   

i think because we are not in the ubuntu-family yet we dont have to bring a
beta2 when ubuntu releases one. We should take the time, include some more
programs (such as games) and release it when its ready. Even if the first
lubuntu is not an official *buntu, it should be a great, well tested distro.
In my opinion, we dont have to follow the canonical timetable that strict.

Best regards, Jo.

2010/4/11 PCManpcman...@gmail.com
 

Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
git since there are some important fixes.
It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
At that time, our google summer of code projects should be finished so
things are going to be improved.
In addition, as upower and udisks now have stable releases, it's time
to support them and provide better user experience.

In the past we always rushed to make new releases for LXDE components
to test new features.
Now as the projects grows and more and more people are using it, we
need to meet the quality requirement of being a major desktop
environment.
So a delay to release new components is sometimes better than to
release a buggy one.
Let wait and see what will happen at the time of 10.10.
I bet it will be the best Lubuntu release ever.

Cheers!

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Agreed. My experience especially with ZevenOS releases shows me that 
aprox. 1 month after Ubuntu release is a good time to release a ubuntu 
based distro as almost every critical bug has been fixed till then.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
Today I hope :)

 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
Already done :)

 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
This will not stop us to do a release :)
I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread PCMan
OK, maybe some press release will be good.
BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
Please update again. :-)
Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very often.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Le dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Ubuntu beta 2 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 Today I hope :)

 Before releasing beta 2, please get the hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important fixes.
 Already done :)

 It's a pity that Lubuntu didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time of 10.10.
 This will not stop us to do a release :)
 I plan to do a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
 state of the project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Luther Goh Lu Feng
I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a small 
advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the other 
websites and blogs.




- Original Message 
 From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com
 To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
 Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
 OK, maybe some press release will be good.
BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in 
 libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
Please update again. 
 :-)
Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very 
 often.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne 
 ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com; 
 href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Le 
 dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Ubuntu beta 2 
 just came out.
 So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
 Today I hope :)

 Before releasing beta 2, please get the 
 hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
 git since there are some important 
 fixes.
 Already done :)

 It's a pity that Lubuntu 
 didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
 we'll be ready at the time 
 of 10.10.
 This will not stop us to do a release :)
 I plan to do 
 a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
 state of the 
 project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.

 
 Regards,
 Julien 
 Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Daniel Muntaner
Yeahh..Generating expectation, is a great advantage! :)

2010/4/11 Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com

 I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a
 small advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the
 other websites and blogs.




 - Original Message 
  From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com
  To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  OK, maybe some press release will be good.
 BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in
  libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
 Please update again.
  :-)
 Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very
  often.

 On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne 
  ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;
  href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Le
  dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
  Ubuntu beta 2
  just came out.
  So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  Today I hope :)
 
  Before releasing beta 2, please get the
  hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
  git since there are some important
  fixes.
  Already done :)
 
  It's a pity that Lubuntu
  didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
  we'll be ready at the time
  of 10.10.
  This will not stop us to do a release :)
  I plan to do
  a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
  state of the
  project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.
 
 
  Regards,
  Julien
  Lavergne
 
 

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?

2010-04-11 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi,

I've always advised people that lubuntu has to run a little later than
'main'. I'd back this with the fact the devs for 'main' did hold a beta back
by 24 hours because of issues; in fact going back to 6.06 was help back
precisely because of that. I totally support and am in 100% favour of
yourselves holding a release back and leave it marked as beta until you are
all ready. There are plenty enough people already 'playing' with Lubuntu to
make the first full 'official' release a good one, we are patient and you
possibly under estimate the general level of good-will that there is for
this new member of the family.

Besides, have you ever watched the wildlife programmes on Meerkats? Lubuntu
will be a pretty darn good Maverick Meerkat :-D

Thanks and regards to you all,

Phill.


On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Daniel Muntaner dan...@muntaner.netwrote:

 Yeahh..Generating expectation, is a great advantage! :)

 2010/4/11 Luther Goh Lu Feng elf...@yahoo.com

 I think it is alright to do a release after Ubuntu. In fact, there is a
 small advantage to do so. We avoid all the noise from Ubuntu in the the
 other websites and blogs.




 - Original Message 
  From: PCMan pcman...@gmail.com
  To: lubuntu-desktop lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
  Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 5:48:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] When will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  OK, maybe some press release will be good.
 BTW, several minutes ago, a bug in
  libfm causing crashes was fixed by Eugene.
 Please update again.
  :-)
 Actually you can try to do daily build from git since it's updated very
  often.

 On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Julien Lavergne 
  ymailto=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;
  href=mailto:gi...@ubuntu.com;gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Le
  dimanche 11 avril 2010 à 16:15 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
  Ubuntu beta 2
  just came out.
  So when will we have Lubuntu 10.04 beta 2?
 
  Today I hope :)
 
  Before releasing beta 2, please get the
  hotest pcmanfm2 and libfm from
  git since there are some important
  fixes.
  Already done :)
 
  It's a pity that Lubuntu
  didn't enter Ubuntu family this time, but
  we'll be ready at the time
  of 10.10.
  This will not stop us to do a release :)
  I plan to do
  a mail after the beta2 about the last news on Lubuntu, the
  state of the
  project etc ... So everyones will be up-to-date.
 
 
  Regards,
  Julien
  Lavergne
 
 

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