Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium (really removing chromium-browser)
On 11-12-22 04:35 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: It feels mildly amusing that we are doing support for a member of the Canonical Support team :) Dear Jonathan, You may feel doubly amused to learn that I contribute regularly to the community. Anyway, I mentioned my package issue on IRC and Phill decided to post it here. -- Off topic -- Those Ubuntunites interested in helping with the Ubuntu Server Guide can ping me on #ubuntu-server or send me a private email. Otherwise, just see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuServerGuide Happy Holidays everyone. -- Peter Matulis ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.
Am 22.12.2011 17:54 schrieb ∅ maps.backw...@gmail.com: Immediately I notice some very strange things being removed:virtual-boxvlcWorst of all:tcpdThis is why I don't use aptitude. I'm sure there is some sort of setting telling it to do what it is doing but this is indicitive of my experience with aptitude. It's got a user friendly interface but is not necessarily user friendly.wxl/walterThere is a taskel job involved I guess. Also again the motto: Never mix aptitude with apt-get.On Dec 22, 2011 8:43 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi guys,one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and aptitude.Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it, it's way beyond my limited expertise! Regards,Phill[1]http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/-- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium.
Hi, I'm not an advanced Linux user but I know there is a difference between these two (aptitude and apt-get) and personally, I've stopped using aptitude since 10.04. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 8:36 PM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi guys, one for the those who like the subtle differences between apt-get and aptitude. Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1] of the output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a look at it, it's way beyond my limited expertise! Regards, Phill [1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/ -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Best Regards, *amjjawad* Lubuntu One Stop Thread (Mega Thread)http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755 My Wiki Page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad | My Launchpadhttps://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad | My Ubuntu Forum Profile http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822 *My Actions Speak Louder Than My Words ||** ** I walk by faith, not by sight **|| Imagination is more important than Knowledge || **Keep It Simple and Short* ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] removing Chromium (really removing chromium-browser)
Please would everyone note that in the world of Debian and Ubuntu
packages, chromium is a game, and chromium-browser is a browser :)
On Dec 22, 2011 8:43 AM, Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Removing Chromium using the two different commands provides massively
different results. This was 1st reported on IRC and the pastebin [1]
of the output is now available. If one of the 'guru's could take a
look at it, it's way beyond my limited expertise!
[1] http://paste.ubuntu.com/778561/
It pays to stick with apt-get or aptitude and not mix them. However,
that doesn't really fully explain this.
At a quick glance, I have a suspicion that the issue could be related to
line 141 of that pastebin page:
141) ia32-libs recommends ia32-libs-multiarch
Hmmm... ia32libs is *not* a default install on Lubuntu (or Ubuntu!) as
far as I know. Therefore, it appears that someone has probably been
experimenting with running 32bit-only closed-source proprietary apps on
a 64bit OS installation, and has got themselves (or aptitude, or
something) into a bit of a mess. ia32-libs is a fairly nastly hack,
IMO, and should only be used by people who thoroughly understand what it
does and how it works (and I don't fully understand that myself!).
I admit that I do use la32-libs, very reluctantly, to run Skype on my
amd64 Ubuntu Lucid install, but that's *not* a recommendation of it.
Multi-arch support in Ubuntu is improving, but I don't think it is
there yet.
To explore this further, can we ask:
(a) Who or what installed ia32-libs, and for what purpose?
(b) Was the chromium-browser being removed a 32bit i386
chromium-browser, or a 64bit amd64 chromium-browser?
dpkg-query -W -f='${Package} ${Version}\t${Architecture}\n'
chromium-browser
should help answer that one.
(c) Can this issue be duplicated from a fresh Lubuntu install, and if
so, what are the exact set of steps needed to do so?
(d) What do the following commands output on the affected system?
uname -a ; echo $(lsb_release -cdrs)
aptitude why ia32-libs
(e) Lastly (this could generate a lot of output!), what is the output
from:
aptitude -Wvs remove chromium-browser
Jonathan
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