Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-05-05 Thread Yorvyk
On 05/05/13 00:12, Aere Greenway wrote: On 04/23/2013 06:10 AM, Yorvyk wrote: On 13/04/13 18:28, Aere Greenway wrote: All: I have been observing a problem where on slow (450 megahertz) machines, the software updater window disappears, and the updates are applied in the background, with no

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-05-05 Thread Aere Greenway
On 05/05/2013 04:58 AM, Yorvyk wrote: I was beginning to think it may have some thing to do with the size of the upgrade, but this doesn't appear to be consistent either as a small upgrade this morning failed as did a larger one yesterday. I'm installing Ubuntu a machine currently running

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-05-05 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 05/05/2013 08:36 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: I've seen it fail on a 1.7 gigahertz (1 Gig RAM) machine two times running Unity desktop environment, and once on the Ubuntu Gnome-Remix system. Then you can open a new Launchpad bug about that incident, which is running a fast-enough, RAM-enough

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-05-05 Thread Aere Greenway
On 05/05/2013 01:34 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: On 05/05/2013 08:36 AM, Aere Greenway wrote: I've seen it fail on a 1.7 gigahertz (1 Gig RAM) machine two times running Unity desktop environment, and once on the Ubuntu Gnome-Remix system. Then you can open a new Launchpad bug about that

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-05-04 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/23/2013 06:10 AM, Yorvyk wrote: On 13/04/13 18:28, Aere Greenway wrote: All: I have been observing a problem where on slow (450 megahertz) machines, the software updater window disappears, and the updates are applied in the background, with no notification of completion. Summary: On

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-23 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 18:28, Aere Greenway wrote: All: I have been observing a problem where on slow (450 megahertz) machines, the software updater window disappears, and the updates are applied in the background, with no notification of completion. Summary: On slow machines, the method of applying

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-23 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/23/2013 06:10 AM, Yorvyk wrote: Have you tried Update-manager lately here seems to be some improvements and it appears to be behaving as it should on both 12.10 and Raring Ringtail although there doesn't seem to be any patches relating to this problem. Steve: Thanks for the heads-up

Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
All: I have been observing a problem where on slow (450 megahertz) machines, the software updater window disappears, and the updates are applied in the background, with no notification of completion. I tried applying updates using terminal commands: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
I always use: sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade at the command line. dist-upgrade is equivalent to upgrade + it removes obsolete packages. When upgrade gets back at the command prompt, the upgrade process has finished (reasonably). Ioannis Vranos http://www.cppsoftware.net

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ali Linx (amjjawad)
Further to my previous reply, I forgot to include two links: 1- This will explain how important it is to have SWAP and how important it is to have it twice as RAM when Physical RAM is 512MB -

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 18:28, Aere Greenway wrote: All: I have been observing a problem where on slow (450 megahertz) machines, the software updater window disappears, and the updates are applied in the background, with no notification of completion. I tried applying updates using terminal commands:

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Mr Wislr
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Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Yorvyk
On 13/04/13 20:08, Yorvyk wrote: On 13/04/13 19:47, Mr Wislr wrote: zram can be very helpful in very low ram situations as well I have found zram to be quite useful in machines with 128MiB to 1.5GiB of RAM. Below 128MiB it seems to slow things down too much and above 1.5GiB it doesn't seem to

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/13/2013 01:08 PM, Yorvyk wrote: On 13/04/13 19:47, Mr Wislr wrote: zram can be very helpful in very low ram situations as well I have found zram to be quite useful in machines with 128MiB to 1.5GiB of RAM. Below 128MiB it seems to slow things down too much and above 1.5GiB it doesn't

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/13/2013 02:02 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote: one of things not yet done is to have a test of the lubuntu updates, As with laptop testing being called in at Beta2, I only ask for update ISO to be tested at RC time. If our testers have time, they can check out the terminal command for a forced

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
Yes, today is not a good day for me. :-) I confused apt-get dist-upgrade, with other distributions' package system (yum upgrade). Sorry for the confusion. Anyway, to be accurate, from apt-get documentation: dist-upgrade dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Aere Greenway
On 04/13/2013 12:26 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: Now, please, follow these steps: 1- Make sure your SWAP is 1GB at least. 2- From LXTerminal or whatever Terminal you are using, please run: sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo apt-get

Re: Problems Updating Lubuntu 12.04, 12.10, and 13.04 on Slow Machines

2013-04-13 Thread Ioannis Vranos
dist-upgrade includes the functionality of upgrade, so no need to do both. Ioannis Vranos http://www.cppsoftware.net On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Aere Greenway a...@dvorak-keyboards.com wrote: On 04/13/2013 12:26 PM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) wrote: Now, please, follow these steps: 1- Make