Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

2018-01-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 01:07:13 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>Ralf Mardorf 
>writes:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:27:55 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:  
>>>I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested
>>>[about 2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.
>>>
>>>My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me
>>>that instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended
>>>whistle.
>>
>> It's unlikely the "midrange extended whistle" they dislike, even
>> ifthey claim that it's the whistle, more likely they hate the
>> content. Who wants to listen to "ok, started load/save random seed"
>> and similar content, when the grandpa could tell stories from his
>> job as a sniper assassin? Do you know the truth about the JFK
>> assassination? Perhaps a workmate was hired by Elvis Presley to do
>> this job? Ok, if you would tell us, you would have to kill us
>> afterwards. We are ok with that.  
>
>That's a myth about having to kill folks after divulging secrets.  They
>stopped that requirement in the early 90's what they came up with was
>really prescient, as you will notice ... Folks are made to listen to
>Donald Trump for a solid 5 hours.
>
>They started out with 10 hrs but too many people were showing signs of
>PTDS.

I like to listen to Donald Trump a lot. English isn't my native
language, so I unfortunately still need to learn how to speak
English less broken than I do it now. In the past it was done by books
for children, teaching short sentences with less vocabulary, such as "my
name is Tim", "I'm Peggy", "how are you Peggy" ... nowadays the POTUS
does help a lot, I don't need the children learning books anymore.
Mr. Trump's intention is just to help making English a more wide spread
universal language. Don't be unfair! All he does is a great job!

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

2018-01-27 Thread Harry Putnam 
Ralf Mardorf 
writes:

> On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:27:55 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested [about
>>2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.
>>
>>My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me that
>>instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended
>>whistle.  
>
> It's unlikely the "midrange extended whistle" they dislike, even ifthey
> claim that it's the whistle, more likely they hate the content. Who
> wants to listen to "ok, started load/save random seed" and similar
> content, when the grandpa could tell stories from his job as a sniper
> assassin? Do you know the truth about the JFK assassination? Perhaps a
> workmate was hired by Elvis Presley to do this job? Ok, if you would
> tell us, you would have to kill us afterwards. We are ok with that.

That's a myth about having to kill folks after divulging secrets.  They
stopped that requirement in the early 90's what they came up with was
really prescient, as you will notice ... Folks are made to listen to
Donald Trump for a solid 5 hours.

They started out with 10 hrs but too many people were showing signs of
PTDS.


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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

2018-01-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 00:27:55 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested [about
>2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.
>
>My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me that
>instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended
>whistle.  

It's unlikely the "midrange extended whistle" they dislike, even ifthey
claim that it's the whistle, more likely they hate the content. Who
wants to listen to "ok, started load/save random seed" and similar
content, when the grandpa could tell stories from his job as a sniper
assassin? Do you know the truth about the JFK assassination? Perhaps a
workmate was hired by Elvis Presley to do this job? Ok, if you would
tell us, you would have to kill us afterwards. We are ok with that.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

2018-01-27 Thread Harry Putnam 
Ralf Mardorf 
writes:

> https://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-\
> screen-and-only-show-kernel-and-boot-text-inst
> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2331376
> etc.

Thanks for that link. And I can report it does work/

> However, booting a modern Linux install from a SSD taking a look at the
> log files most of the times is more useful, than trying to follow the
> startup messages during startup ;). Actually booting my current Ubuntu
> or Arch Linux install from a SSD is that fast, that the displayed
> messages are seldom readable.

I may have a slight advantage, I've trained as a highly paid sniper
assassin for many years, and learned to watch quickly and count how
many spins per foot my .308 bullets made. ... if it was under 17, I
had to break down the rifle, get the barrel off and redo the rifling
with a very long and curved rat tail file.

It sometimes took 3 wks to get it right.  I'd try for 23 spins per
foot .. that would improve my accurace a good 24.593 percent.

I'm getting up in my 70's now so beginning to have a little trouble
telling the difference between 22.5 and 23 spins per foot... and it
makes a difference in the accuracy.

But still, during a boot up, I'm capable of freezing each line mentally
and reading it thoroughly.

Its only really about 119.2 lines per second even on the fastest SSD's.

I was capable of 2783.7 lines per second (last time I was tested [about
2 yrs ago]) so boot msgs are easy-squeezy.

My grand kids hate it when I read out loud to them.  They tell me that
instead of individual words all they here is a midrange extended whistle.

I guess that is kind of boring for them.





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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

2018-01-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf 
On Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:51:51 +, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
>Hi Harry,
>
>On 27 January 2018 at 19:01, Harry Putnam  wrote:
>
>> How can I cause the boot msgs produced when lubuntu boots up to be
>> displayed on the boot screen
>>
>> Pressing `esc' causes some to show but I can see that some have
>> already flew by.
>>
>> I want to see everthing from grub screen all the way to final login
>> screen.
>>
>
>The Linux Kernel has a Ring buffer of messages.
>
>To see it, try this command:-
>dmesg | less
>
>To find out more about that command try:
>man dmesg

While I always booted with shown startup messages and edited grub.cfg
directly in the past and nowadyas use syslinux, the answer to the OP's
question is provided by

https://askubuntu.com/questions/33416/how-do-i-disable-the-boot-splash-screen-and-only-show-kernel-and-boot-text-inst
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2331376
etc.

This is the kind of request, that usually is replied with a
http://lmgtfy.com/ link ;).

However, booting a modern Linux install from a SSD taking a look at the
log files most of the times is more useful, than trying to follow the
startup messages during startup ;). Actually booting my current Ubuntu
or Arch Linux install from a SSD is that fast, that the displayed
messages are seldom readable.

Note, I'm using a relatively modern, but slow CPU and stratup already is
too fast to read the messages. I still preffer startup messages over
eye candy as a matter of (nowadays unreasonable) principle.

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Re: [lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

2018-01-27 Thread Ian Bruntlett 
Hi Harry,

On 27 January 2018 at 19:01, Harry Putnam  wrote:

> How can I cause the boot msgs produced when lubuntu boots up to be
> displayed on the boot screen
>
> Pressing `esc' causes some to show but I can see that some have
> already flew by.
>
> I want to see everthing from grub screen all the way to final login
> screen.
>

The Linux Kernel has a Ring buffer of messages.

To see it, try this command:-
dmesg | less

To find out more about that command try:
man dmesg

HTH,


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[lubuntu-users] How to display all boot msgs during boot

2018-01-27 Thread Harry Putnam 
How can I cause the boot msgs produced when lubuntu boots up to be
displayed on the boot screen

Pressing `esc' causes some to show but I can see that some have
already flew by.

I want to see everthing from grub screen all the way to final login
screen. 


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