Re: lug-bg: Linux -SEMINAR- 2001 12-13 MAY
spokojno ima kamenica :)) --- Vesselin Kotarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: "Stanislav Lechev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: Linux -SEMINAR- 2001 12-13 MAY -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i az se symnqwam nqkoj da se otkave zaradi web-a a za birata ... edwa li shte stane swetowen bum :) wse pak towa ne e kakwa da e bira ... towa e : ZAGORKA :) hmdam .. towa znachi, che nikyde w Stara Zagora nqma da ima Kamenitza ? :( qwno shte trqbwa da dojda s meshka s biri ... ;-) On Friday 20 April 2001 00:03, you wrote: A puk az ne vqrvam nqkoj da se otkazhe ot seminara po podobna prichina... Maj edinstvenata prichina koqto mi idva naum za otkazvane e ako sluchajno (predstavete si ! ) SZ ostane bez bira :))) A suvsem ne vqrvam nqkoj da si napishe lekciqta na hartiq i da sedne da ni q chete :) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Petko Petkov wrote: Ne, nemislq che ideata e dobra. Imam v predvid che tq e dobra, no site-a da bude upload-nat sled sreshtata taka vseki shte bude iznenadan ot lekciqta. Inache nqkoi moze da se otkaza da doide On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:25:58 +0300 (EEST) freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imame ideia da kachim lekciite na web taka horata koito nesa v BG shte mogat da prochetat i da razberat za kakvo se e govorilo na seminara. Taka che iskam da pomolia lektorite da izpratiat razrabotenata ot tiah lekcia na e-maila ni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -- - -=== - Regards, AngelFire Stanislav Lechev [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -=== - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63+5j8RPXBhiMqewRAuU0AJ0fyuca2jchIOTGim7cxgZMB0gCuwCfSgjI xPxsPLEAcbrA7xQpgequf5I= =4HXd -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: Linux -SEMINAR- 2001 12-13 MAY
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, baba zlatia wrote: spokojno ima kamenica :)) --- Vesselin Kotarov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hmdam .. towa znachi, che nikyde w Stara Zagora nqma da ima Kamenitza ? :( Mmmm ... nie bira li shte piem ili shte si plaknem ustite samo ? :-Pp . . . . . . . . . Best regards, Valery Dachev . : User ID : Valery Dachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Homepage : http://valery.zonebg.com/ : : PGP Key ID : 1024D/1C4C9712 (DSA) : : Fingerprint : C451 0CC8 8EB4 655C D7C8 9D7F DCE9 C14E 1C4C 9712 : :..:: : Organization : Bulgarian GNU/Linux Society [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : Homepage : http://linux.zonebg.com: :..:: === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: Linux -SEMINAR- 2001 12-13 MAY
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i az se symnqwam nqkoj da se otkave zaradi web-a a za birata ... edwa li shte stane swetowen bum :) wse pak towa ne e kakwa da e bira ... towa e : ZAGORKA :) On Friday 20 April 2001 00:03, you wrote: A puk az ne vqrvam nqkoj da se otkazhe ot seminara po podobna prichina... Maj edinstvenata prichina koqto mi idva naum za otkazvane e ako sluchajno (predstavete si ! ) SZ ostane bez bira :))) A suvsem ne vqrvam nqkoj da si napishe lekciqta na hartiq i da sedne da ni q chete :) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Petko Petkov wrote: Ne, nemislq che ideata e dobra. Imam v predvid che tq e dobra, no site-a da bude upload-nat sled sreshtata taka vseki shte bude iznenadan ot lekciqta. Inache nqkoi moze da se otkaza da doide On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:25:58 +0300 (EEST) freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imame ideia da kachim lekciite na web taka horata koito nesa v BG shte mogat da prochetat i da razberat za kakvo se e govorilo na seminara. Taka che iskam da pomolia lektorite da izpratiat razrabotenata ot tiah lekcia na e-maila ni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -- - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63+5j8RPXBhiMqewRAuU0AJ0fyuca2jchIOTGim7cxgZMB0gCuwCfSgjI xPxsPLEAcbrA7xQpgequf5I= =4HXd -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: Linux -SEMINAR- 2001 12-13 MAY
- Original Message - From: "Stanislav Lechev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: Re: lug-bg: Linux -SEMINAR- 2001 12-13 MAY -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 i az se symnqwam nqkoj da se otkave zaradi web-a a za birata ... edwa li shte stane swetowen bum :) wse pak towa ne e kakwa da e bira ... towa e : ZAGORKA :) hmdam .. towa znachi, che nikyde w Stara Zagora nqma da ima Kamenitza ? :( qwno shte trqbwa da dojda s meshka s biri ... ;-) On Friday 20 April 2001 00:03, you wrote: A puk az ne vqrvam nqkoj da se otkazhe ot seminara po podobna prichina... Maj edinstvenata prichina koqto mi idva naum za otkazvane e ako sluchajno (predstavete si ! ) SZ ostane bez bira :))) A suvsem ne vqrvam nqkoj da si napishe lekciqta na hartiq i da sedne da ni q chete :) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Petko Petkov wrote: Ne, nemislq che ideata e dobra. Imam v predvid che tq e dobra, no site-a da bude upload-nat sled sreshtata taka vseki shte bude iznenadan ot lekciqta. Inache nqkoi moze da se otkaza da doide On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:25:58 +0300 (EEST) freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imame ideia da kachim lekciite na web taka horata koito nesa v BG shte mogat da prochetat i da razberat za kakvo se e govorilo na seminara. Taka che iskam da pomolia lektorite da izpratiat razrabotenata ot tiah lekcia na e-maila ni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -- - -=== - Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -=== - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE63+5j8RPXBhiMqewRAuU0AJ0fyuca2jchIOTGim7cxgZMB0gCuwCfSgjI xPxsPLEAcbrA7xQpgequf5I= =4HXd -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: Linux -SEMINAR- 2001 12-13 MAY
A puk az ne vqrvam nqkoj da se otkazhe ot seminara po podobna prichina... Maj edinstvenata prichina koqto mi idva naum za otkazvane e ako sluchajno (predstavete si ! ) SZ ostane bez bira :))) A suvsem ne vqrvam nqkoj da si napishe lekciqta na hartiq i da sedne da ni q chete :) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Petko Petkov wrote: Ne, nemislq che ideata e dobra. Imam v predvid che tq e dobra, no site-a da bude upload-nat sled sreshtata taka vseki shte bude iznenadan ot lekciqta. Inache nqkoi moze da se otkaza da doide On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:25:58 +0300 (EEST) freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Imame ideia da kachim lekciite na web taka horata koito nesa v BG shte mogat da prochetat i da razberat za kakvo se e govorilo na seminara. Taka che iskam da pomolia lektorite da izpratiat razrabotenata ot tiah lekcia na e-maila ni: [EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Za koe tochno e prav? Ot vsichki ezici na C naj-bavno se pishat web prilozheniq. Ot vsichki vyzmozhni nachini da se izpylnqt, CGI e naj-bavniqt. Kombinaciqta ti e prosto ubijstvena. Chuval li si za 'slashdot effect'? Ochakvash li poveche ot 1 milion hita dnevno? slashdot.org e napisan na Perl i polzva mod_perl i MySQL. Syshtiqt rezultat sa mozheli da postignat i s PHP, a veche i s Python. Mozhesh da izteglish celiq im source ot: http://slashdot.org/code.shtml Idi tuk: http://www.webdeveloper.com/ idi tuk: http://builder.cnet.com/webbuilding/0-3882.html Da vizhdash nqkoj da pishe web prilozheniq na C? Vseki ezik si ima nishata, silnite i slabite mesta. Taka kakto C e nezamenim za sistemno programirane, taka e nepodhodqsht za web prilozheniq. Vzemi nauchi neshto po-podhodqshto. Petko Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:28 +0300 (EEST) From: Ivan Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] az lichno pisha CGI/C i trqbva da priznaq che si mnogo prav. /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Tuka pochva vesel flamewar... az puk smqtam che naj-burziq nachin da se pishe neshto web-sko e na C kato modul na web servera ili direktno vutre v nego - vsichko drugo e bavno :) kolkoto do skorostta na pisane, az pisha neshtata dosta po-burzo na C,otkolkoto na perlprosto shtoto ne znam perl naprimer :) Ajde da ostavim tva za seminara, da go govorim dokato piem bira?:) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Petko Boukov wrote: Za koe tochno e prav? Ot vsichki ezici na C naj-bavno se pishat web prilozheniq. Ot vsichki vyzmozhni nachini da se izpylnqt, CGI e naj-bavniqt. Kombinaciqta ti e prosto ubijstvena. Chuval li si za 'slashdot effect'? Ochakvash li poveche ot 1 milion hita dnevno? slashdot.org e napisan na Perl i polzva mod_perl i MySQL. Syshtiqt rezultat sa mozheli da postignat i s PHP, a veche i s Python. Mozhesh da izteglish celiq im source ot: http://slashdot.org/code.shtml Idi tuk: http://www.webdeveloper.com/ idi tuk: http://builder.cnet.com/webbuilding/0-3882.html Da vizhdash nqkoj da pishe web prilozheniq na C? Vseki ezik si ima nishata, silnite i slabite mesta. Taka kakto C e nezamenim za sistemno programirane, taka e nepodhodqsht za web prilozheniq. Vzemi nauchi neshto po-podhodqshto. Petko Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:28 +0300 (EEST) From: Ivan Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] az lichno pisha CGI/C i trqbva da priznaq che si mnogo prav. /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Chakaj, setih se che na Assembler shte vyrvi oshte po-byrzo (i shte se pishe oshte po-bavno). Ne, seriozno, ne sym iskal nikogo da zasegna. Pisha na C vseki den, haresvam go poveche ot vsichki drugi ezici, no i toj kato vsqko neshto si ima mqstoto. Peace :) Petko Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:38:43 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuka pochva vesel flamewar... az puk smqtam che naj-burziq nachin da se pishe neshto web-sko e na C kato modul na web servera ili direktno vutre v nego - vsichko drugo e bavno :) kolkoto do skorostta na pisane, az pisha neshtata dosta po-burzo na C,otkolkoto na perlprosto shtoto ne znam perl naprimer :) Ajde da ostavim tva za seminara, da go govorim dokato piem bira?:) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Petko Boukov wrote: Za koe tochno e prav? Ot vsichki ezici na C naj-bavno se pishat web prilozheniq. Ot vsichki vyzmozhni nachini da se izpylnqt, CGI e naj-bavniqt. Kombinaciqta ti e prosto ubijstvena. Chuval li si za 'slashdot effect'? Ochakvash li poveche ot 1 milion hita dnevno? slashdot.org e napisan na Perl i polzva mod_perl i MySQL. Syshtiqt rezultat sa mozheli da postignat i s PHP, a veche i s Python. Mozhesh da izteglish celiq im source ot: http://slashdot.org/code.shtml Idi tuk: http://www.webdeveloper.com/ idi tuk: http://builder.cnet.com/webbuilding/0-3882.html Da vizhdash nqkoj da pishe web prilozheniq na C? Vseki ezik si ima nishata, silnite i slabite mesta. Taka kakto C e nezamenim za sistemno programirane, taka e nepodhodqsht za web prilozheniq. Vzemi nauchi neshto po-podhodqshto. Petko Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:28 +0300 (EEST) From: Ivan Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] az lichno pisha CGI/C i trqbva da priznaq che si mnogo prav. /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Haha :) tukmo se setih kak nqkoj mi razpravqshe za nqkva grupirovka rusnaci, koito si pisheli cgi-tata na asm , i osven tova se kaneli da prenapishat kernela na asm :) Ne pomnq koj mi go beshe razkazval, obache se zamislih kak tochno stava toq nomer s cgi na asm i koj izrod bi napravil podobno neshto :))) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Petko Boukov wrote: Chakaj, setih se che na Assembler shte vyrvi oshte po-byrzo (i shte se pishe oshte po-bavno). Ne, seriozno, ne sym iskal nikogo da zasegna. Pisha na C vseki den, haresvam go poveche ot vsichki drugi ezici, no i toj kato vsqko neshto si ima mqstoto. Peace :) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
E nikoga ne e kusno nestata da se uslojnqt do bezkrai :) Zna4i sled kato si fork-nesh webservera kakto ti e kef , moje da se opitash da go compilirash direktno v kernela , replace-vaiki kHTTPd Sheguwam se estestveno :) On Tuesday 17 April 2001 16:55, you wrote: Chakaj, setih se che na Assembler shte vyrvi oshte po-byrzo (i shte se pishe oshte po-bavno). Ne, seriozno, ne sym iskal nikogo da zasegna. Pisha na C vseki den, haresvam go poveche ot vsichki drugi ezici, no i toj kato vsqko neshto si ima mqstoto. Peace :) Petko Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:38:43 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuka pochva vesel flamewar... az puk smqtam che naj-burziq nachin da se pishe neshto web-sko e na C kato modul na web servera ili direktno vutre v nego - vsichko drugo e bavno :) kolkoto do skorostta na pisane, az pisha neshtata dosta po-burzo na C,otkolkoto na perlprosto shtoto ne znam perl naprimer :) Ajde da ostavim tva za seminara, da go govorim dokato piem bira?:) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Petko Boukov wrote: Za koe tochno e prav? Ot vsichki ezici na C naj-bavno se pishat web prilozheniq. Ot vsichki vyzmozhni nachini da se izpylnqt, CGI e naj-bavniqt. Kombinaciqta ti e prosto ubijstvena. Chuval li si za 'slashdot effect'? Ochakvash li poveche ot 1 milion hita dnevno? slashdot.org e napisan na Perl i polzva mod_perl i MySQL. Syshtiqt rezultat sa mozheli da postignat i s PHP, a veche i s Python. Mozhesh da izteglish celiq im source ot: http://slashdot.org/code.shtml Idi tuk: http://www.webdeveloper.com/ idi tuk: http://builder.cnet.com/webbuilding/0-3882.html Da vizhdash nqkoj da pishe web prilozheniq na C? Vseki ezik si ima nishata, silnite i slabite mesta. Taka kakto C e nezamenim za sistemno programirane, taka e nepodhodqsht za web prilozheniq. Vzemi nauchi neshto po-podhodqshto. Petko Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:11:28 +0300 (EEST) From: Ivan Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] az lichno pisha CGI/C i trqbva da priznaq che si mnogo prav. /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache : :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ti si pomisli kolko mu e da prenapishesh kernela na asm chas-dwa rabota za 1 chowek :) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:21:10 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Haha :) tukmo se setih kak nqkoj mi razpravqshe za nqkva grupirovka rusnaci, koito si pisheli cgi-tata na asm , i osven tova se kaneli da prenapishat kernela na asm :) Ne pomnq koj mi go beshe razkazval, obache se zamislih kak tochno stava toq nomer s cgi na asm i koj izrod bi napravil podobno neshto :))) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Petko Boukov wrote: Chakaj, setih se che na Assembler shte vyrvi oshte po-byrzo (i shte se pishe oshte po-bavno). Ne, seriozno, ne sym iskal nikogo da zasegna. Pisha na C vseki den, haresvam go poveche ot vsichki drugi ezici, no i toj kato vsqko neshto si ima mqstoto. Peace :) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE63FYg8RPXBhiMqewRArYxAJwJn2d8I0z6iuSwJvmTFkDazCWGZQCdFO5c OdeHWhiRTOZU036T+c53fz8= =2kiw -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Vsushtnost, 20 minuti ot sam kompilator :))) i posle izvestno vreme da optimizirash na ruka ... 1MB executable code sigurno e max 50na MB asm :) ti si pomisli kolko mu e da prenapishesh kernela na asm chas-dwa rabota za 1 chowek :) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:21:10 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Haha :) tukmo se setih kak nqkoj mi razpravqshe za nqkva grupirovka rusnaci, koito si pisheli cgi-tata na asm , i osven tova se kaneli da prenapishat kernela na asm :) Ne pomnq koj mi go beshe razkazval, obache se zamislih kak tochno stava toq nomer s cgi na asm i koj izrod bi napravil podobno neshto :))) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Title: RE: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 1MB KOMPRESIRAN executable code modulite dopylnitelno :) -- Boyan Krosnov (http://www.nat.bg/~bkrosnov) Network Administrator Lirex BG Ltd. -Original Message- From: Vasil Kolev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Vsushtnost, 20 minuti ot sam kompilator :))) i posle izvestno vreme da optimizirash na ruka ... 1MB executable code sigurno e max 50na MB asm :) ti si pomisli kolko mu e da prenapishesh kernela na asm chas-dwa rabota za 1 chowek :) On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:21:10 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Haha :) tukmo se setih kak nqkoj mi razpravqshe za nqkva grupirovka rusnaci, koito si pisheli cgi-tata na asm , i osven tova se kaneli da prenapishat kernela na asm :) Ne pomnq koj mi go beshe razkazval, obache se zamislih kak tochno stava toq nomer s cgi na asm i koj izrod bi napravil podobno neshto :))) == = A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 spokojno edwa li nqkoj go chete :) On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:18:11 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Yavor Kolarov wrote: On Saturday 14 April 2001 13:54, you wrote: mai Apah-a obezmislq temata , pone az taka si mislq :) ?? ??? . Apache ? ? ? ? ?? ? ??? ?, ?? ?? ?? ? ? ???. ? ? ?? ?? ? Tux ? ? ?. Tova ne go cheta v moq pine , ne znam zashto , dava mi samo '?' === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE62cGH8RPXBhiMqewRAobvAJ4wKamMALfIv90rtLB6OCNqQelJoQCfYmHI yHZPIwAvC4d0U5Dwlt9f2vI= =3Xzq -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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ami ko da ti kaja , to ostana samo kernela i kato webserv da go igrae . za sega oste nqma takuf support ( i v 2.4.3 daje) On Sunday 15 April 2001 18:55, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:29:08 +0300 From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Davam primer : 1. Edno e da zeredish LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so ( da re4em ) i sled tova da pravish CGI s Perl script naprimer. Zna4i imash Apache--Perl Interpretera-- tvoq script . 2. Suvsem drugo e da si napishesh svoi modul , koito da se zarejda s samoto Apache ,i koito da pravi to4no kakvoto ti trqbwa na teb ( a ne da obhvashta obshtiq slu4ai) , bez da vika kakvito i da e interpreteri da dvijat scriptove i t.n. Tova se pravi v mnogo redki slu4ai i ot mnogo malko hora , az li4no ne bih se nagurbil s takava zada4a . V slu4aq imash samo Apache , nqma interpretirane na scriptove koeto bavi Nesto pove4e za uskorqwaneto rabotata na webserver-a ima ideq samiq kernel da obslujva request-ite za stati4nite stranici, i ve4e ot tam natatuk Apache ( naprimer) da se zanimava s po-slojnite raboti . da ... btw nqkoj zachital li se e do kyde q dokaraha taq rabota :) izglevda lyubopitno :) On Sunday 15 April 2001 01:09, you wrote: Apache ne pravi razlika mezhdu 'vytreshnite' i chuzhdite moduli. Toj celiqt e napisan kato sbor ot moduli i proizvoditelnostta zavisi ot tova kolko dobre e napisan syotvetniqt modul, a ne ot kogo. Petko From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:39:15 +0300 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tuk ide re4 za napisvane na modul za samoto Apache , a ne kak Apache se vuzpolzwa ot vutreshnite strukturi na servera : Perl ,PHP ,Python i t.n. interpreteri . Ama dosta zaslojnqwat nestata .. i mai nqma smisul da se buhti 4owek s takvizi na4inaniq , osven ako naistina performance e mnogo drop-nala i nqma na kude ve4e .. On Saturday 14 April 2001 21:57, you wrote: Za skorostta nikak ne si prav. Mnogo po-byrzo raboti Perl modul otkolkoto CGI, napisano na C, zashtoto ne se nalaga modulyt da se zarezhda ot diska pri vsqka zaqvka, a i dvete sa predvaritelno kompilirani. Vizh 'Writing Apache Modules in Perl and C' na O'Reilly. Poddyrzhal sym ogromen modul na Perl za online forumi, tyj che govorq ot sobstven opit. Za bloat-a syvsem ne si prav. Vizh 'The Practice of Programming' na Kernigan i Pike, za tova kak edna programa za parse-vane na text na Perl e 18 reda, a na C e 150 reda. Kyde tuk e bloat-a? Osven tova Perl pozvolqva kompilirane do ELF code, no naistina binary-to stava dosta debelichko, ponezhe vkljuchva suma si biblioteki, za da mozhe da se izpylnqva bez interpretatora. Petko Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:38:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo : apache : : :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora = == A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -== =- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -== =- -BEGIN PGP
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
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huh
mi shte si chakame :)
a za kernela si praw
to ko li ne prawi che samo towa ostana :)
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote:
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 19:46:52 +0300
From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
ami ko da ti kaja , to ostana samo kernela i kato webserv da go igrae .
za sega oste nqma takuf support ( i v 2.4.3 daje)
On Sunday 15 April 2001 18:55, you wrote:
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote:
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:29:08 +0300
From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Davam primer :
1. Edno e da zeredish
LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so ( da re4em )
i sled tova da pravish CGI s Perl script naprimer. Zna4i imash
Apache--Perl Interpretera-- tvoq script .
2. Suvsem drugo e da si napishesh svoi modul , koito da se zarejda s
samoto Apache ,i koito da pravi to4no kakvoto ti trqbwa na teb ( a ne da
obhvashta obshtiq slu4ai) , bez da vika kakvito i da e interpreteri da
dvijat scriptove i t.n. Tova se pravi v mnogo redki slu4ai i ot mnogo
malko hora , az li4no ne bih se nagurbil s takava zada4a .
V slu4aq imash samo Apache , nqma interpretirane na scriptove koeto bavi
Nesto pove4e za uskorqwaneto rabotata na webserver-a ima ideq samiq
kernel da obslujva request-ite za stati4nite stranici, i ve4e ot tam
natatuk Apache ( naprimer) da se zanimava s po-slojnite raboti .
da ...
btw nqkoj zachital li se e do kyde q dokaraha taq rabota :)
izglevda lyubopitno :)
On Sunday 15 April 2001 01:09, you wrote:
Apache ne pravi razlika mezhdu 'vytreshnite' i chuzhdite moduli. Toj
celiqt e napisan kato sbor ot moduli i proizvoditelnostta zavisi ot
tova kolko dobre e napisan syotvetniqt modul, a ne ot kogo.
Petko
From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:39:15 +0300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tuk ide re4 za napisvane na modul za samoto Apache , a ne kak Apache
se vuzpolzwa ot vutreshnite strukturi na servera : Perl ,PHP
,Python i t.n. interpreteri . Ama dosta zaslojnqwat nestata
.. i mai nqma smisul da se buhti 4owek s takvizi na4inaniq ,
osven ako naistina performance e mnogo drop-nala i nqma na kude ve4e
..
On Saturday 14 April 2001 21:57, you wrote:
Za skorostta nikak ne si prav. Mnogo po-byrzo raboti Perl modul
otkolkoto CGI, napisano na C, zashtoto ne se nalaga modulyt da se
zarezhda ot diska pri vsqka zaqvka, a i dvete sa predvaritelno
kompilirani. Vizh 'Writing Apache Modules in Perl and C' na
O'Reilly. Poddyrzhal sym ogromen modul na Perl za online forumi, tyj
che govorq ot sobstven opit.
Za bloat-a syvsem ne si prav. Vizh 'The Practice of Programming' na
Kernigan i Pike, za tova kak edna programa za parse-vane na text na
Perl e 18 reda, a na C e 150 reda. Kyde tuk e bloat-a?
Osven tova Perl pozvolqva kompilirane do ELF code, no naistina
binary-to stava dosta debelichko, ponezhe vkljuchva suma si
biblioteki, za da mozhe da se izpylnqva bez interpretatora.
Petko
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:38:22 +0300 (EEST)
From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote:
E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no
tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i
Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se
jelae ???
Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi
dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga
probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha,
shte se iznenadash
:))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo
: apache
:
: :)
( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto
drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i
bavno na perl ili php... )
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Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Vsushtonost, TUX e tochno tova - edin kernel deto se izzhivqva kato webserver:) On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: ami ko da ti kaja , to ostana samo kernela i kato webserv da go igrae . za sega oste nqma takuf support ( i v 2.4.3 daje) On Sunday 15 April 2001 18:55, you wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:29:08 +0300 From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Davam primer : 1. Edno e da zeredish LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so ( da re4em ) i sled tova da pravish CGI s Perl script naprimer. Zna4i imash Apache--Perl Interpretera-- tvoq script . 2. Suvsem drugo e da si napishesh svoi modul , koito da se zarejda s samoto Apache ,i koito da pravi to4no kakvoto ti trqbwa na teb ( a ne da obhvashta obshtiq slu4ai) , bez da vika kakvito i da e interpreteri da dvijat scriptove i t.n. Tova se pravi v mnogo redki slu4ai i ot mnogo malko hora , az li4no ne bih se nagurbil s takava zada4a . V slu4aq imash samo Apache , nqma interpretirane na scriptove koeto bavi Nesto pove4e za uskorqwaneto rabotata na webserver-a ima ideq samiq kernel da obslujva request-ite za stati4nite stranici, i ve4e ot tam natatuk Apache ( naprimer) da se zanimava s po-slojnite raboti . === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Ami podgatwqi lekciqta po temata:))) , qvno ima kakvo da "razduhash", da se
nadqwam 4e ste moga da prisustwam li4no na seminara . Ako znaesh kolko
vuprosa moga da generiram
On Sunday 15 April 2001 19:58, you wrote:
Vsushtonost, TUX e tochno tova - edin kernel deto se izzhivqva kato
webserver:)
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote:
ami ko da ti kaja , to ostana samo kernela i kato webserv da go igrae
. za sega oste nqma takuf support ( i v 2.4.3 daje)
On Sunday 15 April 2001 18:55, you wrote:
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote:
Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 08:29:08 +0300
From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Davam primer :
1. Edno e da zeredish
LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so ( da re4em )
i sled tova da pravish CGI s Perl script naprimer. Zna4i imash
Apache--Perl Interpretera-- tvoq script .
2. Suvsem drugo e da si napishesh svoi modul , koito da se zarejda
s samoto Apache ,i koito da pravi to4no kakvoto ti trqbwa na teb ( a
ne da obhvashta obshtiq slu4ai) , bez da vika kakvito i da e
interpreteri da dvijat scriptove i t.n. Tova se pravi v mnogo redki
slu4ai i ot mnogo malko hora , az li4no ne bih se nagurbil s takava
zada4a .
V slu4aq imash samo Apache , nqma interpretirane na scriptove koeto
bavi
Nesto pove4e za uskorqwaneto rabotata na webserver-a ima ideq samiq
kernel da obslujva request-ite za stati4nite stranici, i ve4e ot tam
natatuk Apache ( naprimer) da se zanimava s po-slojnite raboti .
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Yavor Kolarov wrote: Ñ èçâåñíî çàêúñíåíèå ãëàñóâàì çà 12-13 Ìàé. Ìîãà äà êàæà íåùî çà web ïðîãðàìèðàíåòî ñ PHP, àêî èìà èíòåðåñ. Kato se spomena PHP, mislq che trqbwa da se pomisli za prowevdaneto na seminara pod formata na diskusiq, zashtoto po tozi nachin neshtata smai se naglasqt spored niwoto na auditoriqta, a i taka po edna tema shte move da se gowori ot poweche ot edin chowek. Towa se okaza edna spored men shto-gode dobra forma na prowevdane na sybirachkata organizirana ot Online.BG predi malko poweche ot godina (maj) w Centyra za Izsledwane na Demokraciqta (mislq) ... a i na sybirachkata w Gabrovo, po-wavnata chast ot kojto proteche imeno w tozi duh w sgradata na Otworeno Obshtestwo tam (a po-kysno w birariqta edin etav po-dolu ;)). P.S. az syshto sym za 12-13 May. . . . . . . . . . Best regards, Valery Dachev . : User ID : Valery Dachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Homepage : http://valery.zonebg.com/ : : PGP Key ID : 1024D/1C4C9712 (DSA) : : Fingerprint : C451 0CC8 8EB4 655C D7C8 9D7F DCE9 C14E 1C4C 9712 : :..:: : Organization : Bulgarian GNU/Linux Society [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : Homepage : http://linux.zonebg.com: :..:: === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
mislq 4e toi vsyshtnost i bez tova e dosta natovaren naposledyk... v4era ve4erta primerno edvam teglih s 0.3k. pyk i predstavqm si kakyv traffic bi se polu4il ako celiqt svqt mojeshe da tegli ottam --- baba zlatia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutno viarno to si e fakt Àç ñúì ñ âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷å free.techno-link.com å äîñòúïåí ñàìî îò Áúëãàðèÿ. Òîâà íå å çëå, àìà... âñå ïàê òîâà ñà íåùà, êîèòî íÿìà çàùî äà ñå îãðàíè÷àâàò ñàìî â Áúëãàðèÿ. Íå ÷å ìè ïðå÷è äà ãè äðúïíà îò òàì è äà ãè ñëîæà ïðè ìåí, íî çàùî òðÿáâà äà å ñëîæíî, êàòî ìîæå äà å ïðîñòî. Az sum s vpechatlenie, che free.techno-link.com e dostupen samo ot Bulgariia. Tova ne e zle, ama... vse pak tova sa neshta, koito niama zashto da se ogranichavat samo v Bulgariia. Ne che mi prechi da gi drupna ot tam i da gi sloja pri men, no zashto triabva da e slojno, kato moje da e prosto. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Oficialno si izmislih tema - sravnenie m/u razlichnite web serveri pod linux - apache, thttpd, dwww , tux 1/2 i nqkoi drugi. === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Vasil Kolev wrote: Oficialno si izmislih tema - sravnenie m/u razlichnite web serveri pod linux - apache, thttpd, dwww , tux 1/2 i nqkoi drugi. s/dwww/dhttpd/g ... dqvol me vzel :) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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:))) prosto shtoto ne ti se e nalagalo da polzvash drug webserver...apache e golqma divotiq v nqkoi otnosheniq, naprimer API-to za pisane na moduli i chistiq performance... Osnovnata mu ideq e da e udoben za polzvane :) On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: mai Apah-a obezmislq temata , pone az taka si mislq :) On Saturday 14 April 2001 16:23, you wrote: Oficialno si izmislih tema - sravnenie m/u razlichnite web serveri pod linux - apache, thttpd, dwww , tux 1/2 i nqkoi drugi. === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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e scriptovete vurvqt bavno , drugo si e compiliranoto code nqma spor . No nesto 4uwam 4e imalo nqkakuv Zend optimizer ( Apache+PHP+Zend), koito deistwal nesto ot sorta kato "purvo compilirai i posle izprati " , performance ska4ala s 40-90 %. E az samo tova ne sum zarejdal na moito apache ( netcraft.com edva mi poznawa OS-a , a puk apacheto az sam ne moga da si go poznaq - nashareno s moduli otsekude ). Kak moga da proverq kolko reguest/sec obslujwa Apacha ? nekuf benchmark li ima , ili s realno generirani zaqvki , ama togava kak da razbera kolko e obslujil naistina , a im ne e dal 404 napromer On Saturday 14 April 2001 17:38, you wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, Yavor Kolarov wrote: On Saturday 14 April 2001 13:54, you wrote: mai Apah-a obezmislq temata , pone az taka si mislq :) ?? ??? . Apache ? ? ? ? ?? ? ??? ?, ?? ?? ?? ? ? ???. ? ? ?? ?? ? Tux ? ? ?. Tova ne go cheta v moq pine , ne znam zashto , dava mi samo '?' === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Å òîâà íå ìîæàõ äà ãî ïðî÷åòà ... äàé ïàê ïëèéñ :) On Saturday 14 April 2001 21:09, you wrote: On Saturday 14 April 2001 13:54, you wrote: mai Apah-a obezmislq temata , pone az taka si mislq :) ?? ??? . Apache ? ? ? ? ?? ? ??? ?, ?? ?? ?? ? ? ???. ? ? ?? ?? ? Tux ? ? ?. === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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? ?? ? ?? ?? ??? ... ??? ??? ? :) Stranno - i dvamata sme s KMail. Moia header e: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" No naistina i az ne mozhah da si procheta sobstwenoto pismo :( Mozhe bi se dylzh na bug w KMail. V nego biah napisal, che Apache naistina e prekrasen, no ne winagi e edinstven i naj-dobyr i che kombinaciata Apache + Tux e interesna. ?? ??? Yavor === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Saturday 14 April 2001 16:22, you wrote: ami ako KMail-a ti e ot KDE-2.1.1-CVSrelease moje da se "bozi"malko da , moito e ot KDE-2.1.1 Mai beshe ot KDE 2.0. Versiata e 1.1.99. Za vseki sluchai, shte mina na latinica dakato upgrate-na ili opravia problema. Yavor === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Za skorostta nikak ne si prav. Mnogo po-byrzo raboti Perl modul otkolkoto CGI, napisano na C, zashtoto ne se nalaga modulyt da se zarezhda ot diska pri vsqka zaqvka, a i dvete sa predvaritelno kompilirani. Vizh 'Writing Apache Modules in Perl and C' na O'Reilly. Poddyrzhal sym ogromen modul na Perl za online forumi, tyj che govorq ot sobstven opit. Za bloat-a syvsem ne si prav. Vizh 'The Practice of Programming' na Kernigan i Pike, za tova kak edna programa za parse-vane na text na Perl e 18 reda, a na C e 150 reda. Kyde tuk e bloat-a? Osven tova Perl pozvolqva kompilirane do ELF code, no naistina binary-to stava dosta debelichko, ponezhe vkljuchva suma si biblioteki, za da mozhe da se izpylnqva bez interpretatora. Petko Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:38:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Kak moga da se zapoznaq s API-to koeto predlaga Apache naprimer , taka de kakvi sa interfeisite vurhu koito moje da programira 4owek ( da si napravi sobstven modul ) , ako mu doide do glavata ?.To stava edna mutna ... On Saturday 14 April 2001 17:04, you wrote: :))) prosto shtoto ne ti se e nalagalo da polzvash drug webserver...apache e golqma divotiq v nqkoi otnosheniq, naprimer API-to za pisane na moduli i chistiq performance... Osnovnata mu ideq e da e udoben za polzvane :) On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: mai Apah-a obezmislq temata , pone az taka si mislq :) On Saturday 14 April 2001 16:23, you wrote: Oficialno si izmislih tema - sravnenie m/u razlichnite web serveri pod linux - apache, thttpd, dwww , tux 1/2 i nqkoi drugi. === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Predpolagam v tvoita tema ste budat zastupani i takiva nesta kato koi webservers predlagat udobno API za pisane na personalni moduli , i kak , sto , zasto i t.n. On Sunday 15 April 2001 00:11, you wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: Kak moga da se zapoznaq s API-to koeto predlaga Apache naprimer , taka de kakvi sa interfeisite vurhu koito moje da programira 4owek ( da si napravi sobstven modul ) , ako mu doide do glavata ?.To stava edna mutna ... Ima guide za pisane na moduli, ogledaj stranicata , inache ima nqkude i opisanie na api-to,ama e gnusna rabota ... === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Shaping pravgqt momchetata - ot mesec ne sym vijdal poveche ot 4K ot tam. A predi tova si hvyrcheshe... I sega si hvyrchi - vzemi si liniq ot techno-link i gledai kakvo stava... On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, you wrote: mislq 4e toi vsyshtnost i bez tova e dosta natovaren naposledyk... v4era ve4erta primerno edvam teglih s 0.3k. pyk i predstavqm si kakyv traffic bi se polu4il ako celiqt svqt mojeshe da tegli ottam --- baba zlatia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: absolutno viarno to si e fakt Àç ñúì ñ âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷å free.techno-link.com å äîñòúïåí ñàìî îò Áúëãàðèÿ. Òîâà íå å çëå, àìà... âñå ïàê òîâà ñà íåùà, êîèòî íÿìà çàùî äà ñå îãðàíè÷àâàò ñàìî â Áúëãàðèÿ. Íå ÷å ìè ïðå÷è äà ãè äðúïíà îò òàì è äà ãè ñëîæà ïðè ìåí, íî çàùî òðÿáâà äà å ñëîæíî, êàòî ìîæå äà å ïðîñòî. Az sum s vpechatlenie, che free.techno-link.com e dostupen samo ot Bulgariia. Tova ne e zle, ama... vse pak tova sa neshta, koito niama zashto da se ogranichavat samo v Bulgariia. Ne che mi prechi da gi drupna ot tam i da gi sloja pri men, no zashto triabva da e slojno, kato moje da e prosto. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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tuk ide re4 za napisvane na modul za samoto Apache , a ne kak Apache se vuzpolzwa ot vutreshnite strukturi na servera : Perl ,PHP ,Python i t.n. interpreteri . Ama dosta zaslojnqwat nestata .. i mai nqma smisul da se buhti 4owek s takvizi na4inaniq , osven ako naistina performance e mnogo drop-nala i nqma na kude ve4e .. On Saturday 14 April 2001 21:57, you wrote: Za skorostta nikak ne si prav. Mnogo po-byrzo raboti Perl modul otkolkoto CGI, napisano na C, zashtoto ne se nalaga modulyt da se zarezhda ot diska pri vsqka zaqvka, a i dvete sa predvaritelno kompilirani. Vizh 'Writing Apache Modules in Perl and C' na O'Reilly. Poddyrzhal sym ogromen modul na Perl za online forumi, tyj che govorq ot sobstven opit. Za bloat-a syvsem ne si prav. Vizh 'The Practice of Programming' na Kernigan i Pike, za tova kak edna programa za parse-vane na text na Perl e 18 reda, a na C e 150 reda. Kyde tuk e bloat-a? Osven tova Perl pozvolqva kompilirane do ELF code, no naistina binary-to stava dosta debelichko, ponezhe vkljuchva suma si biblioteki, za da mozhe da se izpylnqva bez interpretatora. Petko Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:38:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Apache ne pravi razlika mezhdu 'vytreshnite' i chuzhdite moduli. Toj celiqt e napisan kato sbor ot moduli i proizvoditelnostta zavisi ot tova kolko dobre e napisan syotvetniqt modul, a ne ot kogo. Petko From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:39:15 +0300 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tuk ide re4 za napisvane na modul za samoto Apache , a ne kak Apache se vuzpolzwa ot vutreshnite strukturi na servera : Perl ,PHP ,Python i t.n. interpreteri . Ama dosta zaslojnqwat nestata .. i mai nqma smisul da se buhti 4owek s takvizi na4inaniq , osven ako naistina performance e mnogo drop-nala i nqma na kude ve4e .. On Saturday 14 April 2001 21:57, you wrote: Za skorostta nikak ne si prav. Mnogo po-byrzo raboti Perl modul otkolkoto CGI, napisano na C, zashtoto ne se nalaga modulyt da se zarezhda ot diska pri vsqka zaqvka, a i dvete sa predvaritelno kompilirani. Vizh 'Writing Apache Modules in Perl and C' na O'Reilly. Poddyrzhal sym ogromen modul na Perl za online forumi, tyj che govorq ot sobstven opit. Za bloat-a syvsem ne si prav. Vizh 'The Practice of Programming' na Kernigan i Pike, za tova kak edna programa za parse-vane na text na Perl e 18 reda, a na C e 150 reda. Kyde tuk e bloat-a? Osven tova Perl pozvolqva kompilirane do ELF code, no naistina binary-to stava dosta debelichko, ponezhe vkljuchva suma si biblioteki, za da mozhe da se izpylnqva bez interpretatora. Petko Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 17:38:22 +0300 (EEST) From: Vasil Kolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 14 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: E ne mi se e nalagalo da si pisha moi moduli za Apacheto , no tezi za php , cgi i tam za bazite danni (mislq 4e ste poddurja i Kylix na nisko nivo ) ne sa li dostatu4ni , kakvo oste moje da se jelae ??? Skorost naprimer :) ili da si napishesh sam neshto,koeto shte vurvi dostatuchno burzo pri okolo 200req/sec ... shtoto ako nqkoga probvash apache s php ili perl kolko zaqvki v sekunda izudrzha, shte se iznenadash :))) Osven tova cgi , bazi danni, php , perl poddurzha ne samo apache :) ( a i vinagi sum schital che e naj-hubavo da si napishesh neshto drebno na C koeto ti reshava problema vmesto neshto bloatnato i bavno na perl ili php... ) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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George Danchev wrote: BTW ne polu4awam nqkoi pisma izprateni ot men go LUG-a ??? no samo nqkoi de . Tova go zabelqzah ot okolo 3-4 dena Ne sym zabelqzal da ima problemi okolo twoq adres. Wiv dali pismata, koito si pratil gi ima wyw arhiwa. Da ne sa se zagubili po obratniq pyt? Ili move da si gi pratil na pogreshen adres? Spas Pavlov === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 stiga be hora... pishete na latinica nie koito sme s pine ne movem da chetem pismata wi On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Ognyan Kulev wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:52:31 +0300 From: Ognyan Kulev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 06:41:47PM +0300, Valery Dachev wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Ognyan Kulev wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:25:49AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: Ste e hubavo v tema kato "Predimstvata na Linux" da bude zasegnato i nesto ot sorta na Linux i FreeBSD ( ili NetBSD, OpenBSD) . Te susto sa open source , i sa nai-jiznenite konkurenti na Linux . Ami mai nai-dobre ste e da se napravi obzor na "Linux vs. vsi4ki ostanali" ( izklu4aq Win i MacOS - nqma smi...) . Nqma da e losho da se zasegne vuprosa za monolitic kernel i microkernels podhoda . GNU/Hurd,, . , Hurd? http://hurd.gnu.org, -. . , http://hurd.gnu.org/ . Mislq, che tozi, kojto shte gowori za micro-kernel-a i monolitnite qdra bi trqbwalo da pogledne: http://linux.zonebg.com/documentation/kernel/Torvalds-KernelHistory.html Ne znam koj e prewodacha, a i ne pomnq otkyde dokopah tozi prewod edno wreme, no e gotinko ;). . . : 1) ,.Apple FreeBSD Mach, , Hurd. 2) . , Framework . ( , Hurd , .. . ) 3) . -:))) -- Ognyan Kulev [EMAIL PROTECTED], "\"Programmer\"" === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61rym8RPXBhiMqewRAu9IAJ92Ghhpm5pAmkRM1n/KZPqLQcdg+wCgjfaO C8/btXBTzd28Pw0xQmI3+cg= =iLVI -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 az pyk poluchawam nqkoj pisma po 2-3 pyti On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:46:55 +0300 From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Nqma flamewar . prosto predlojenie/dopulvane kum tema za SEMINARA . mislq 4e nqma losho ... BTW ne polu4awam nqkoi pisma izprateni ot men go LUG-a ??? no samo nqkoi de . Tova go zabelqzah ot okolo 3-4 dena On Thursday 12 April 2001 18:58, you wrote: Olele...Edin ot naj-starite flamewars - monolythic vs microkernel... Sega kvo - da pochnem da sporim za tova koe e po-dobro - vi ili emacs ?:) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Valery Dachev wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Ognyan Kulev wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:25:49AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: Ste e hubavo v tema kato "Predimstvata na Linux" da bude zasegnato i nesto ot sorta na Linux i FreeBSD ( ili NetBSD, OpenBSD) . Te susto sa open source , i sa nai-jiznenite konkurenti na Linux . Ami mai nai-dobre ste e da se napravi obzor na "Linux vs. vsi4ki ostanali" ( izklu4aq Win i MacOS - nqma smi...) . Nqma da e losho da se zasegne vuprosa za monolitic kernel i microkernels podhoda . GNU/Hurd,, . , Hurd? http://hurd.gnu.org, -. . Mislq, che tozi, kojto shte gowori za micro-kernel-a i monolitnite qdra bi trqbwalo da pogledne: http://linux.zonebg.com/documentation/kernel/Torvalds-KernelHistory.html Ne znam koj e prewodacha, a i ne pomnq otkyde dokopah tozi prewod edno wreme, no e gotinko ;). === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61rxq8RPXBhiMqewRApl5AJ9OxsDxXVpKeCZV47O/NyuTtLLKOgCghbjO n+nZzXUimBUynHmWBL+/tl0= =ay2Y -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0300, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: stiga be hora... pishete na latinica nie koito sme s pine ne movem da chetem pismata wi Ïîðàäè êîèà îò èçáðîåíèòå ïðè÷èíè íå ìîæåø äà ÷åòåø êèðèëèöà? 1. Íå èñêàì! 2. Íå çíàÿ êàê äà ñè êèðèëèçèðàì ñèñòåìàòà. 3. Îïèòâàì ñå, íî çàñåãà áåç óñïåõ. 4. Ñèñòåìíèÿ àäìèíèñòðàòîð íå èñêà äà ïóñíå êèðèëèöà. 5. Ìúðçè ìå äà ñå çàíèìàâàì. -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- Translated message begin -- -- On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0300, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: stiga be hora... pishete na latinica nie koito sme s pine ne movem da chetem pismata wi Poradi koia ot izbroenite prichini ne mojesh da chetesh kirilica? 1. Ne iskam! 2. Ne znaia kak da si kiriliziram sistemata. 3. Opitvam se, no zasega bez uspeh. 4. Sistemniia administrator ne iska da pusne kirilica. 5. Murzi me da se zanimavam. -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- End of translated message -- -- PGP signature
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:58:30AM +0300, Theodor Milkov wrote: |Ïîðàäè êîèà îò èçáðîåíèòå ïðè÷èíè íå ìîæåø äà ÷åòåø êèðèëèöà? | Åòî åäèí äîáúð ïðèìåð çàùî *òðÿáâà* äà ñå ïèøå íà êèðèëèöà ïî-÷åñòî ...;-) Èìàë ñúì æåñòîêè èçëàãàöèè ïîíÿêîãà ñ îôèöèàëíè äîêóìåíòè, êîèòî ñúì ïîïúëâàë è ñà ìå ãëåäàëè ñ ãîëÿìî ñúæàëåíèå... --JS === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 06:25:19PM +0900, Julian Stoev wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:58:30AM +0300, Theodor Milkov wrote: |Ïîðàäè êîèà îò èçáðîåíèòå ïðè÷èíè íå ìîæåø äà ÷åòåø êèðèëèöà? | Åòî åäèí äîáúð ïðèìåð çàùî *òðÿáâà* äà ñå ïèøå íà êèðèëèöà ïî-÷åñòî ...;-) Èìàë ñúì æåñòîêè èçëàãàöèè ïîíÿêîãà ñ îôèöèàëíè äîêóìåíòè, êîèòî ñúì ïîïúëâàë è ñà ìå ãëåäàëè ñ ãîëÿìî ñúæàëåíèå... Íàïúëíî ñúãëàñåí ;-) Íå áÿõ ïèñàë íà êèðèëèöà ñ ìåñåöè, à äàëè íå áÿõà è ãîäèíè ïðåäè äà ñå íàëîæè äà ñè êèðèëèçèðàì Linux-à çà äà ïèøà ìàëêî óåá íà áúëãàðñêè â ñðåäàòà íà ìèíàëàòà ãîäèíà. Òîâà îáà÷å å è ïðè÷èíàòà äà èìà âúïèþùà íóæäà îò [ai]spell íà áúëãàðñêè... -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- Translated message begin -- -- On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 06:25:19PM +0900, Julian Stoev wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:58:30AM +0300, Theodor Milkov wrote: |Poradi koia ot izbroenite prichini ne mojesh da chetesh kirilica? | Eto edin dobur primer zashto *triabva* da se pishe na kirilica po-chesto ...;-) Imal sum jestoki izlagacii poniakoga s oficialni dokumenti, koito sum populval i sa me gledali s goliamo sujalenie... Napulno suglasen ;-) Ne biah pisal na kirilica s meseci, a dali ne biaha i godini predi da se naloji da si kiriliziram Linux-a za da pisha malko ueb na bulgarski v sredata na minalata godina. Tova obache e i prichinata da ima vupiiushta nujda ot [ai]spell na bulgarski... -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- End of translated message -- -- PGP signature
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 bih kazal: 1 - Ne iskam - zashtoto nqma dostatychno dobri console fonts (dave maj sym wivdal samo 1 i to grozen) 2 - Ne znaq - ako neznaeh nqmashe da moga da cheta tezi pisma ! 3 - Opitwam bez uspeh - otpada poradi 2 4 - SysAdm ne puska cyr - ami ako nqmam sysadm ? 5 - Myrzi me - towa si e taka no wie me prinudihte :) kakto i da e ... az moga da cheta no sym siguren che mnogo hora tuk ne mogat ! mersi za zagrivenostta wse pak o da... ti dori si mi pusnal i translated msg :) 10x On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Theodor Milkov wrote: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:58:30 +0300 From: Theodor Milkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0300, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: stiga be hora... pishete na latinica nie koito sme s pine ne movem da chetem pismata wi ? 1. ! 2. . 3. ,. 4. . 5. . -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- Translated message begin -- -- On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0300, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: stiga be hora... pishete na latinica nie koito sme s pine ne movem da chetem pismata wi Poradi koia ot izbroenite prichini ne mojesh da chetesh kirilica? 1. Ne iskam! 2. Ne znaia kak da si kiriliziram sistemata. 3. Opitvam se, no zasega bez uspeh. 4. Sistemniia administrator ne iska da pusne kirilica. 5. Murzi me da se zanimavam. -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- End of translated message -- -- - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61sjV8RPXBhiMqewRArfXAJ0WyLBhivlM0Ueh44KQDwuJI0I3kQCeKi1w ttS9aaT+A/cWVFbb3Q+2Ync= =S9si -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hehe :) On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Julian Stoev wrote: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:25:19 +0900 From: Julian Stoev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:58:30AM +0300, Theodor Milkov wrote: | ? | ** - ...;-) , ... --JS === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61srv8RPXBhiMqewRAhEyAJ9lWrnFerXYcH3aL9tyYhvf6OqGKwCdE+9e nHEYGUA1z6U2cHaez1xLOuE= =8lhs -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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"Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire)" wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 az pyk poluchawam nqkoj pisma po 2-3 pyti pri prashtai gi na tiq deto ne sa poluchili :) "Trust noone" = Teodor Georgiev System Administrator Netplus OOD - Sofia phone: ++359-2-9633298 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 33741477 = === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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mnogo gotini prichini:) az si priznavam che imam mnogo po-vajni neshta na glavata ot nqkakva kirilica, tui che izbiram 6) Nqmam vreme (i nervi) da se zanimavam. /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Theodor Milkov wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0300, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: stiga be hora... pishete na latinica nie koito sme s pine ne movem da chetem pismata wi Ïîðàäè êîèà îò èçáðîåíèòå ïðè÷èíè íå ìîæåø äà ÷åòåø êèðèëèöà? 1. Íå èñêàì! 2. Íå çíàÿ êàê äà ñè êèðèëèçèðàì ñèñòåìàòà. 3. Îïèòâàì ñå, íî çàñåãà áåç óñïåõ. 4. Ñèñòåìíèÿ àäìèíèñòðàòîð íå èñêà äà ïóñíå êèðèëèöà. 5. Ìúðçè ìå äà ñå çàíèìàâàì. -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- Translated message begin -- -- On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 11:45:24AM +0300, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: stiga be hora... pishete na latinica nie koito sme s pine ne movem da chetem pismata wi Poradi koia ot izbroenite prichini ne mojesh da chetesh kirilica? 1. Ne iskam! 2. Ne znaia kak da si kiriliziram sistemata. 3. Opitvam se, no zasega bez uspeh. 4. Sistemniia administrator ne iska da pusne kirilica. 5. Murzi me da se zanimavam. -- =- --rw--- =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= Theodor Milkov Administrator IP Networks Davidov Electric Ltd.Phone: +359 (2) 730158 PGP: http://www.zimage.delbg.com/zimage.asc =--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--= -- -- End of translated message -- -- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hehe :) ideqta e dobra :) On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Teodor Georgiev wrote: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:39:50 +0200 From: Teodor Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 "Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire)" wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 az pyk poluchawam nqkoj pisma po 2-3 pyti pri prashtai gi na tiq deto ne sa poluchili :) "Trust noone" = Teodor Georgiev System Administrator Netplus OOD - Sofia phone: ++359-2-9633298 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 33741477 = === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61uRR8RPXBhiMqewRArbrAJ9nThK+s5PgxqwUgxcaIbC2pDT9xACfSAjk yeVt+iKAWL4tPQcEzJ+hmk4= =igMk -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 02:18:01PM +0300, Ivan Dimitrov wrote: |mnogo gotini prichini:) az si priznavam che imam mnogo po-vajni neshta na |glavata ot nqkakva kirilica, tui che izbiram |6) Nqmam vreme (i nervi) da se zanimavam. Òîãàâà ñå ïèòà â çàäà÷àòà îò êúäå íàìèðàø âðåìå äà ÷åòåø òîçè ìåéë ëèñò. ;-) --JS === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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e tiva ne se chete:) /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Julian Stoev wrote: On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 02:18:01PM +0300, Ivan Dimitrov wrote: |mnogo gotini prichini:) az si priznavam che imam mnogo po-vajni neshta na |glavata ot nqkakva kirilica, tui che izbiram |6) Nqmam vreme (i nervi) da se zanimavam. Òîãàâà ñå ïèòà â çàäà÷àòà îò êúäå íàìèðàø âðåìå äà ÷åòåø òîçè ìåéë ëèñò. ;-) --JS === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Ami nqma gi na web archiva na lista , qvno vuobste ne sa stigali do lista.
A trudno moga da sgresha adresa s butona REPLY :))).
Za sega ne moga da si obqsnq kude sa se zatrili tiq 2-3 maila go lista , no
mislq 4e ot ISP-to ste ukajat sudeistvie za izdirvaneto im . Pismata ne sa ot
strategi4eska vajnost , no vuprosa e principen .
Ti mojesh li da proverish dali do lista e stigal sledniq mail ( edno ot dvete
izgubeni ), izpratil sum go na Thu 12 April 18:01:47 2001:
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From: George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4ete se : "Tova e edin golqm test".
KMail ot KDE-2.2.1-CVSrelease go 4ete idealno (deb testing/unstable ) .
AKo trqbwa i na hindi moga da go napisha :)
On Thursday 12 April 2001 20:06, you wrote:
Òîâà å åäèí ãîëÿì òåñò
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On Friday 13 April 2001 09:38, you wrote:
George Danchev wrote:
BTW ne polu4awam nqkoi pisma izprateni ot men go LUG-a ??? no samo nqkoi
de . Tova go zabelqzah ot okolo 3-4 dena
Ne sym zabelqzal da ima problemi okolo twoq adres.
Wiv dali pismata, koito si pratil gi ima wyw arhiwa.
Da ne sa se zagubili po obratniq pyt?
Ili move da si gi pratil na pogreshen adres?
Spas Pavlov
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Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Shte kazha dve dumi za prepylvaneto na buferite v programi, pisani na C, ponezhe nqma da moga da dojda na seminara. Eksploatiraneto na losho napisani programi e opisano v stanalata klasika statiq na Aleph One 'Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit' vyv phrack.com. Kak mozhem (pone otchasti) da se predpazim? Ako se pishe na C, ne biva _nikoga_ da se izpolzvat funkciite strcpy, strcat, sprintf i gets. Te ne proverqvat dali ne se pishe izvyn zadadeniq bufer i pozvolqvat zamazvane na pamet, koqto se namira izvyn bufera. Vmesto tqh trqbv da se izpolzvat slednite zamestiteli: strcpy - strncpy strcat - strncat sprintf - snprintf gets - fgets Funkciite-zamestiteli imat po edin dopylnitelen argument, zadavasht goleminata na bufera. Ako vidite 'Segmentation fault. Core dumped', znachi programistyt ne si e svyrshil kakto trqbva rabotata. Za programata nevalidnite vhodni danni ne mozhe da sa opravdanie za nepredskazuemo povedenie, taka kakto za OS ne mozhe da e opravdanie da zabie, zatova, che nqkoq programa e zabila. Perl naprimer sledi za izlizaneto izvyn ramkite na daden masiv. Ako toj se systoi ot 10 elementa, a se adresira element s indeks 100, masivyt avtomatichno stava po-golqm ili raven na 101 elementa (v zavisimost ot tova s kolko elementa narastva po podrazbirane). Petko Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:21:46 +0300 (EEST) From: "Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 towa koeto imah predwid e ne samo security kato cqlo a i da se obyrne malko wnimanie na towa : kakwo e buffer overflow kak rabotqt exploitite i kak da pishem programi bez da dopuskame takiwa greshki mislq che e edna mnogo interesna tema ako nqkoj se e zachital :) --== Sent via Deja.com ==-- http://www.deja.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:25:49AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: Ste e hubavo v tema kato "Predimstvata na Linux" da bude zasegnato i nesto ot sorta na Linux i FreeBSD ( ili NetBSD, OpenBSD) . Te susto sa open source , i sa nai-jiznenite konkurenti na Linux . Ami mai nai-dobre ste e da se napravi obzor na "Linux vs. vsi4ki ostanali" ( izklu4aq Win i MacOS - nqma smi...) . Nqma da e losho da se zasegne vuprosa za monolitic kernel i microkernels podhoda . Àç ñúì ôåí íà GNU/Hurd, íî íå ñúì ñèãóðåí, ÷å áèõ ìîãúë äà çàùèòÿ èçïîëçâàíåòî íà ìèêðîÿäðà. Èçîáùî â ãðóïàòà èìà ëè íÿêîé, êîéòî äà ñå èíòåðåñóâà îò Hurd? Ìåæäó äðóãîòî ñåãà ó÷àñòâàì â ïðàâåíåòî íà íîâèÿ http://hurd.gnu.org, òúé ÷å íÿêúäå îò íà÷àëîòî íà þíè ñàéòà ùå áúäå äîñòà ïî-ñìèñëåí. Ñåãà äàæå íå ñè ñòðóâà äà ñå õîäè äî íåãî. -- Ognyan Kulev [EMAIL PROTECTED], "\"Programmer\"" === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Ognyan Kulev wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:25:49AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: Ste e hubavo v tema kato "Predimstvata na Linux" da bude zasegnato i nesto ot sorta na Linux i FreeBSD ( ili NetBSD, OpenBSD) . Te susto sa open source , i sa nai-jiznenite konkurenti na Linux . Ami mai nai-dobre ste e da se napravi obzor na "Linux vs. vsi4ki ostanali" ( izklu4aq Win i MacOS - nqma smi...) . Nqma da e losho da se zasegne vuprosa za monolitic kernel i microkernels podhoda . Àç ñúì ôåí íà GNU/Hurd, íî íå ñúì ñèãóðåí, ÷å áèõ ìîãúë äà çàùèòÿ èçïîëçâàíåòî íà ìèêðîÿäðà. Èçîáùî â ãðóïàòà èìà ëè íÿêîé, êîéòî äà ñå èíòåðåñóâà îò Hurd? Ìåæäó äðóãîòî ñåãà ó÷àñòâàì â ïðàâåíåòî íà íîâèÿ http://hurd.gnu.org, òúé ÷å íÿêúäå îò íà÷àëîòî íà þíè ñàéòà ùå áúäå äîñòà ïî-ñìèñëåí. Ñåãà äàæå íå ñè ñòðóâà äà ñå õîäè äî íåãî. Mislq, che tozi, kojto shte gowori za micro-kernel-a i monolitnite qdra bi trqbwalo da pogledne: http://linux.zonebg.com/documentation/kernel/Torvalds-KernelHistory.html Ne znam koj e prewodacha, a i ne pomnq otkyde dokopah tozi prewod edno wreme, no e gotinko ;). . . . . . . . . . Best regards, Valery Dachev . : User ID : Valery Dachev [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Homepage : http://valery.zonebg.com/ : : PGP Key ID : 1024D/1C4C9712 (DSA) : : Fingerprint : C451 0CC8 8EB4 655C D7C8 9D7F DCE9 C14E 1C4C 9712 : :..:: : Organization : Bulgarian GNU/Linux Society [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : Homepage : http://linux.zonebg.com: :..:: === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Olele...Edin ot naj-starite flamewars - monolythic vs microkernel... Sega kvo - da pochnem da sporim za tova koe e po-dobro - vi ili emacs ?:) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Valery Dachev wrote: On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Ognyan Kulev wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:25:49AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: Ste e hubavo v tema kato "Predimstvata na Linux" da bude zasegnato i nesto ot sorta na Linux i FreeBSD ( ili NetBSD, OpenBSD) . Te susto sa open source , i sa nai-jiznenite konkurenti na Linux . Ami mai nai-dobre ste e da se napravi obzor na "Linux vs. vsi4ki ostanali" ( izklu4aq Win i MacOS - nqma smi...) . Nqma da e losho da se zasegne vuprosa za monolitic kernel i microkernels podhoda . Àç ñúì ôåí íà GNU/Hurd, íî íå ñúì ñèãóðåí, ÷å áèõ ìîãúë äà çàùèòÿ èçïîëçâàíåòî íà ìèêðîÿäðà. Èçîáùî â ãðóïàòà èìà ëè íÿêîé, êîéòî äà ñå èíòåðåñóâà îò Hurd? Ìåæäó äðóãîòî ñåãà ó÷àñòâàì â ïðàâåíåòî íà íîâèÿ http://hurd.gnu.org, òúé ÷å íÿêúäå îò íà÷àëîòî íà þíè ñàéòà ùå áúäå äîñòà ïî-ñìèñëåí. Ñåãà äàæå íå ñè ñòðóâà äà ñå õîäè äî íåãî. Mislq, che tozi, kojto shte gowori za micro-kernel-a i monolitnite qdra bi trqbwalo da pogledne: http://linux.zonebg.com/documentation/kernel/Torvalds-KernelHistory.html Ne znam koj e prewodacha, a i ne pomnq otkyde dokopah tozi prewod edno wreme, no e gotinko ;). === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
nqma da e losho i da se spomene proekta po rt-linux.com (ili ot roda) vse pak real time qdro e dobro reshenie za golemi korporacii /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, George Danchev wrote: A podkarval li si Debian GNU/Hurd ? Az ne sum , no znam 4e kum momenta ne moje i duma da stava da se meri s Debian GNU/Linux . Vuobste Debian GNU/Hurd kum momenta stava li za potrebitelsko polzwane , ili samo developers go polzwat ? Az dokolkoto znam microkernels po-lesno se build-vat i maintain-vat , no puk stariq dobur i izpitan monolitic kernel dava better performance - vse pak vsi4ko e v edno edinstveno binary. Nqma da e losho lektora na "Predimstvata na Linux" da "obadi" nesto po vuprosa . On Thursday 12 April 2001 15:13, you wrote: On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 01:25:49AM +0300, George Danchev wrote: Ste e hubavo v tema kato "Predimstvata na Linux" da bude zasegnato i nesto ot sorta na Linux i FreeBSD ( ili NetBSD, OpenBSD) . Te susto sa open source , i sa nai-jiznenite konkurenti na Linux . Ami mai nai-dobre ste e da se napravi obzor na "Linux vs. vsi4ki ostanali" ( izklu4aq Win i MacOS - nqma smi...) . Nqma da e losho da se zasegne vuprosa za monolitic kernel i microkernels podhoda . Àç ñúì ôåí íà GNU/Hurd, íî íå ñúì ñèãóðåí, ÷å áèõ ìîãúë äà çàùèòÿ èçïîëçâàíåòî íà ìèêðîÿäðà. Èçîáùî â ãðóïàòà èìà ëè íÿêîé, êîéòî äà ñå èíòåðåñóâà îò Hurd? Ìåæäó äðóãîòî ñåãà ó÷àñòâàì â ïðàâåíåòî íà íîâèÿ http://hurd.gnu.org, òúé ÷å íÿêúäå îò íà÷àëîòî íà þíè ñàéòà ùå áúäå äîñòà ïî-ñìèñëåí. Ñåãà äàæå íå ñè ñòðóâà äà ñå õîäè äî íåãî. -- Ognyan Kulev [EMAIL PROTECTED], "\"Programmer\"" === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
Glasuvam za: 12-13 May Protiv drugite dati, zastoto: 29-28 April e mnogo blizko i niama da moze da se podgotviat temite. 26-27 May e dylgata pochivka za 24 May i vseki ste e pri domashnite, ili ste planira nesto drugo. Predlozenia za temi na seminara: 1. Programirane pod Linux (tvorbi i problemi): - klasicheski sredi (C, Perl, C++ i dr.) - programni sredi i sredstva; - FAQ; - vizualno programirane(Java, Kylix i dr.); - programni sredi i sredstva; - FAQ; 2. Servers and Daemons - FAQ - SNMP; - SMTP; - POP3; - FTP; - WWW; 3. RADIUS - FAQ - instalacia; - nachini na upotreba; 4. IP Masquerading and routing with linux box - FAQ. 5. Linux and hardware problems - FAQ. 6. DVB and SQUID - FAQ. Po tozi nachin ste obobstim temite raziskvani v grupata prez izminalata godina, a lektorite ste napraviat FAQ , koito da se razgledat na seminara, da se nanesat korekcii, ako e neobhodimo i da se slozat na weba, za da se prekratiat podobavasto - da se vidi, che i vie ste dali nesto na sveta. Tova si e moe mnenie i predlozenie :-) Dimitar (beezdi) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Napalno iasno i logichno izlojeno...syglasen na 100 procenta, bih predlojil
skromnata si lichnost kato lektor da zapoznaia auditoriata s Kylix
(polzwam go ot 6-7 meseca samo {ot beta 2 nasam} no mislia che moga da
predloja interesna informacia)
Ne znaia kolko ot was biaha na konferenciata na Borland w Interpred predi
mesec-dwa,
no mislia che lektora zasegna mnogo slabo niakoi wajni temi ot
strategichesko znachenie za nowia
RAD instrumen na Borland za razrabotki pod Linux, koito bih mogyl da
predloja kato informacia...
At 02:34 11.4.2001 '.' Converted: -0500, you wrote:
Glasuvam za:
12-13 May
Protiv drugite dati, zastoto:
29-28 April e mnogo blizko i niama da moze da se podgotviat temite.
26-27 May e dylgata pochivka za 24 May i vseki ste e pri domashnite, ili
ste planira nesto drugo.
Predlozenia za temi na seminara:
1. Programirane pod Linux (tvorbi i problemi):
- klasicheski sredi (C, Perl, C++ i dr.)
- programni sredi i sredstva;
- FAQ;
- vizualno programirane(Java, Kylix i dr.);
- programni sredi i sredstva;
- FAQ;
2. Servers and Daemons - FAQ
- SNMP;
- SMTP;
- POP3;
- FTP;
- WWW;
3. RADIUS - FAQ
- instalacia;
- nachini na upotreba;
4. IP Masquerading and routing with linux box - FAQ.
5. Linux and hardware problems - FAQ.
6. DVB and SQUID - FAQ.
Po tozi nachin ste obobstim temite raziskvani v grupata prez izminalata
godina, a
lektorite ste napraviat FAQ , koito da se razgledat na seminara, da se
nanesat korekcii,
ako e neobhodimo i da se slozat na weba, za da se prekratiat podobavasto -
da se vidi,
che i vie ste dali nesto na sveta.
Tova si e moe mnenie i predlozenie :-)
Dimitar
(beezdi)
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Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
i az glasuvam za 12-13 May. i az imam jelanie da se nablegne vurxu IP routing, opredeleno shte e interesna tema. Programnite ezici sushto mi se struvat dobra tema, zashtoto trqbva da se okorajavat razrabotchicite da pishat software za linux. V tazi vruska, edin prochit ili komentar na katedralata i pazara nqma da e izlishna. Osven tova, ako nqma jelaesht da govori za dvb+squid moje da uchastvam i az kato lektor. /*\ * root of all evil* * the last one on earth * * take a minute to think about it * *[EMAIL PROTECTED]* \*/ On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, beezdi wrote: Glasuvam za: 12-13 May Protiv drugite dati, zastoto: 29-28 April e mnogo blizko i niama da moze da se podgotviat temite. 26-27 May e dylgata pochivka za 24 May i vseki ste e pri domashnite, ili ste planira nesto drugo. Predlozenia za temi na seminara: 1. Programirane pod Linux (tvorbi i problemi): - klasicheski sredi (C, Perl, C++ i dr.) - programni sredi i sredstva; - FAQ; - vizualno programirane(Java, Kylix i dr.); - programni sredi i sredstva; - FAQ; 2. Servers and Daemons - FAQ - SNMP; - SMTP; - POP3; - FTP; - WWW; 3. RADIUS - FAQ - instalacia; - nachini na upotreba; 4. IP Masquerading and routing with linux box - FAQ. 5. Linux and hardware problems - FAQ. 6. DVB and SQUID - FAQ. Po tozi nachin ste obobstim temite raziskvani v grupata prez izminalata godina, a lektorite ste napraviat FAQ , koito da se razgledat na seminara, da se nanesat korekcii, ako e neobhodimo i da se slozat na weba, za da se prekratiat podobavasto - da se vidi, che i vie ste dali nesto na sveta. Tova si e moe mnenie i predlozenie :-) Dimitar (beezdi) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
I az sum suglasen s 12-13 maj , osven tova, dazhe naskoro si izmislih i tema - sravnenie m/u razlichnite web serveri pod linux, osven tova moga da govorq,ako ne se nameri nqkoj drug , za routing,shaping i QoS i vsqkakvi takiva hubavi neshta On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, freeman wrote: Linux Seminar shto e to i ima li pochva u nas. -I tazi godina Linux seminara shte se provede v zalata na klub "Otvoreno Obshtestvo", grad Stara Zagora. Poveche informacia za tova shte namerite na adres: http://www.sz.osf.bg/seminar -Neshtata koito triabva da reshim predvaritelno sa: datata, osnovnata tema na seminara, a ot tam da izberem konkretnite temi i lektori. Minalata godina glavna tema be: Sigurnost, bazi danni i niakoi drugi temi. Imashe dosta lektori, koito se predstaviha dobre. -V zavisimost ot vashite glasove seminara shte se provede na edna ot slednite tri dati: 28-29 April 12-13 May 26-27 May Izpratete jelanata ot vas data na e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rezultatite shte gi slagam na http://www.sz.osf.bg/seminar Na syshtia adres shte ima informacia za ceni na hotelite, dati, temi na lekciite, imena na lektorite i drugi. Koito jela moje da poseti i IRC. Mrejata e UniBG #lug-bg Nadiavam se da ima mnogo novi idei za provejdaneto na seminara. -- freeman \\\ =(@ @) Powered By UnixoOo O oOo [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == === http://www.sz.osf.bg gopher://sz.osf.bg === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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http://osc-sz.inetg.bg/seminar ako sz.osf.bg nese rezolva -- freeman \\\ =(@ @) Powered By UnixoOo O oOo[EMAIL PROTECTED] == == === http://www.sz.osf.bggopher://sz.osf.bg On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Ivan Todev wrote: http://www.sz.osf.bg/seminar ne se rezolva !? === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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I az sam saglasen sas 12-13 Mai. Na men mi se govori po temata "Iztakvane na predimstvata na Linux i dr. podobni". al_shopov === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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beezdi wrote: Glasuvam za: 12-13 May Protiv drugite dati, zastoto: 29-28 April e mnogo blizko i niama da moze da se podgotviat temite. 26-27 May e dylgata pochivka za 24 May i vseki ste e pri domashnite, ili ste planira nesto drugo. Predlozenia za temi na seminara: 1. Programirane pod Linux (tvorbi i problemi): - klasicheski sredi (C, Perl, C++ i dr.) - programni sredi i sredstva; - FAQ; - vizualno programirane(Java, Kylix i dr.); - programni sredi i sredstva; - FAQ; 2. Servers and Daemons - FAQ - SNMP; - SMTP; - POP3; - FTP; - WWW; 3. RADIUS - FAQ - instalacia; - nachini na upotreba; 4. IP Masquerading and routing with linux box - FAQ. 5. Linux and hardware problems - FAQ. 6. DVB and SQUID - FAQ. Po tozi nachin ste obobstim temite raziskvani v grupata prez izminalata godina, a lektorite ste napraviat FAQ , koito da se razgledat na seminara, da se nanesat korekcii, ako e neobhodimo i da se slozat na weba, za da se prekratiat podobavasto - da se vidi, che i vie ste dali nesto na sveta. Tova si e moe mnenie i predlozenie :-) Dimitar (beezdi) === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora mozhe da se dobavqt naprimer kato tema i "Sredstva za vizualizirane na statisticheski danni - mrtg, cricket, webalizer..." Temata za Squid mozhe da se obobshti i kato "Squid + DVB + snmp + mrtg + regex" :))) abe Squid si e dosta golemichka tema... i ima dosta kakvo da se kazhe interesno po neq. -- "Trust noone" = Teodor Georgiev System Administrator Netplus OOD - Sofia phone: ++359-2-9633298 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 33741477 = === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 zashto ne pomislite za tema ot sorta na: "vulnerability, buffer overflows, secure programming, exploits...tnt" On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, freeman wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:15:00 +0300 (EEST) From: freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 http://osc-sz.inetg.bg/seminar ako sz.osf.bg nese rezolva -- freeman \\\ =(@ @) Powered By UnixoOo O oOo [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == === http://www.sz.osf.bg gopher://sz.osf.bg On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Ivan Todev wrote: http://www.sz.osf.bg/seminar ne se rezolva !? === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61GNY8RPXBhiMqewRAikVAJ96QZ3BIqG6jmwx6Cu+Fr4n/H46FgCff0OR S5ZrbqhjHBhDtvOaKDmvmbs= =pRnT -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Security triabva i shte presystva kato tema. Na minalia seminar beshe dosta zastypana. Predpolagam i sega shte ima jelaeshti lektori da govoriat na tazi tema. -- freeman \\\ =(@ @) Powered By UnixoOo O oOo[EMAIL PROTECTED] == == === http://www.sz.osf.bggopher://sz.osf.bg On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 zashto ne pomislite za tema ot sorta na: "vulnerability, buffer overflows, secure programming, exploits...tnt" === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 towa koeto imah predwid e ne samo security kato cqlo a i da se obyrne malko wnimanie na towa : kakwo e buffer overflow kak rabotqt exploitite i kak da pishem programi bez da dopuskame takiwa greshki mislq che e edna mnogo interesna tema ako nqkoj se e zachital :) ili pone za mene :P ako iskate linkowe sym posybral malko :) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, freeman wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:07:04 +0300 (EEST) From: freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Security triabva i shte presystva kato tema. Na minalia seminar beshe dosta zastypana. Predpolagam i sega shte ima jelaeshti lektori da govoriat na tazi tema. -- freeman \\\ =(@ @) Powered By UnixoOo O oOo [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == === http://www.sz.osf.bg gopher://sz.osf.bg On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 zashto ne pomislite za tema ot sorta na: "vulnerability, buffer overflows, secure programming, exploits...tnt" === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -===- Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -===- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61ISc8RPXBhiMqewRAvJuAJsFeN+sdtDY7DdH/xT0YyZWI+ksawCbB6DU ipuVWGbOl6ZLWSs7HqO2mnk= =z3YL -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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a syshto taka nqma da e losho ako nqkoj reshi da kave neshto za web programming ... ??? b. - Original Message - From: "Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire)" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 6:21 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 towa koeto imah predwid e ne samo security kato cqlo a i da se obyrne malko wnimanie na towa : kakwo e buffer overflow kak rabotqt exploitite i kak da pishem programi bez da dopuskame takiwa greshki mislq che e edna mnogo interesna tema ako nqkoj se e zachital :) ili pone za mene :P ako iskate linkowe sym posybral malko :) On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, freeman wrote: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:07:04 +0300 (EEST) From: freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Security triabva i shte presystva kato tema. Na minalia seminar beshe dosta zastypana. Predpolagam i sega shte ima jelaeshti lektori da govoriat na tazi tema. -- freeman \\\ =(@ @) Powered By UnixoOo O oOo [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == === http://www.sz.osf.bg gopher://sz.osf.bg On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Stanislav Lechev (AngelFire) wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 zashto ne pomislite za tema ot sorta na: "vulnerability, buffer overflows, secure programming, exploits...tnt" === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora - -=== - Regards,AngelFire Stanislav Lechev[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Key: http://firedust.vega.bg/pgp/StanislavLechev.asc - -=== - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.75-6 iD8DBQE61ISc8RPXBhiMqewRAvJuAJsFeN+sdtDY7DdH/xT0YyZWI+ksawCbB6DU ipuVWGbOl6ZLWSs7HqO2mnk= =z3YL -END PGP SIGNATURE- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Ami maj ti si zhelaesht : On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Vesselin Kotarov wrote: a syshto taka nqma da e losho ako nqkoj reshi da kave neshto za web programming ... ??? b. === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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shte ti se : - Original Message - From: "Vasil Kolev" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 7:09 PM Subject: Re: lug-bg: LINUX SEMINAR 2001 Ami maj ti si zhelaesht : On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Vesselin Kotarov wrote: a syshto taka nqma da e losho ako nqkoj reshi da kave neshto za web programming ... ??? b. === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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tamyn i az neshto takowa shtqh da pitam :) hubawo she e da se publikuwat temite na web-a :) regards On Wednesday 11 April 2001 21:22, you wrote: Interesuva me ako njakoj ne moze da dojde na seminara ste ima li neshto kato kompresiran zapis na temite koito sa bili obsuzdani? I ot kude moze da si gi drupne cowek? === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora -- ognyan nikolov http://tfl0pz.cjb.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Iskam i az da pomolq za publikuwane na temite, poneje nqmam wuzmojnost da se mrudno ot tuk na tiq dati. -- Linux, the choice | "I'd love to go out with you, but I've been of a GNU generation -o) | scheduled for a karma transplant." Kernel 2.4.0 /\ | on a i686 _\_v | | === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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Ste e hubavo v tema kato "Predimstvata na Linux" da bude zasegnato i nesto ot sorta na Linux i FreeBSD ( ili NetBSD, OpenBSD) . Te susto sa open source , i sa nai-jiznenite konkurenti na Linux . Ami mai nai-dobre ste e da se napravi obzor na "Linux vs. vsi4ki ostanali" ( izklu4aq Win i MacOS - nqma smi...) . Nqma da e losho da se zasegne vuprosa za monolitic kernel i microkernels podhoda . On Thursday 12 April 2001 14:15, you wrote: http://osc-sz.inetg.bg/seminar ako sz.osf.bg nese rezolva -- freeman \\\ =(@ @) Powered By UnixoOo O oOo [EMAIL PROTECTED] == == === http://www.sz.osf.bg gopher://sz.osf.bg On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Ivan Todev wrote: http://www.sz.osf.bg/seminar ne se rezolva !? === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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ami ot predishnia toest 2000 gi ima na free.techno-link.com/lil0 a i ot tozi ne e problem da sa tam :) tykmo shte si napravi(a)m kolekcia :) --- Joshuah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesuva me ako njakoj ne moze da dojde na seminara ste ima li neshto kato kompresiran zapis na temite koito sa bili obsuzdani? I ot kude moze da si gi drupne cowek? === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
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On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:48:17PM -0700, baba zlatia wrote: |ami ot predishnia toest 2000 gi ima na |free.techno-link.com/lil0 |a i ot tozi ne e problem da sa tam :) |tykmo shte si napravi(a)m kolekcia :) Àç ñúì ñ âïå÷àòëåíèå, ÷å free.techno-link.com å äîñòúïåí ñàìî îò Áúëãàðèÿ. Òîâà íå å çëå, àìà... âñå ïàê òîâà ñà íåùà, êîèòî íÿìà çàùî äà ñå îãðàíè÷àâàò ñàìî â Áúëãàðèÿ. Íå ÷å ìè ïðå÷è äà ãè äðúïíà îò òàì è äà ãè ñëîæà ïðè ìåí, íî çàùî òðÿáâà äà å ñëîæíî, êàòî ìîæå äà å ïðîñòî. -- -- Translated message begin -- -- On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 03:48:17PM -0700, baba zlatia wrote: |ami ot predishnia toest 2000 gi ima na |free.techno-link.com/lil0 |a i ot tozi ne e problem da sa tam :) |tykmo shte si napravi(a)m kolekcia :) Az sum s vpechatlenie, che free.techno-link.com e dostupen samo ot Bulgariia. Tova ne e zle, ama... vse pak tova sa neshta, koito niama zashto da se ogranichavat samo v Bulgariia. Ne che mi prechi da gi drupna ot tam i da gi sloja pri men, no zashto triabva da e slojno, kato moje da e prosto. -- -- End of translated message -- -- === A mail-list of Linux Users Group - Bulgaria (bulgarian linuxers) http://www.linux-bulgaria.org/ Hosted by Internet Group Ltd. - Stara Zagora
