Happy Easter,
in the beginning of his Pièces de Luth Composées sur differens Modes...
Gallot gives a short Méthode qu'il faut observer pour jouer prprement du luth
in 9 rules. They should be important, I thougth and tried to read them. Well,
...
Could somebody please help me and explain the
In terms of bang for the buck, weren't there a couple of lute makers
in Russia and Eastern Europe who were very reasonable. Perhaps Oleg
Timofeyev would be the person that would have that info.
I'm still waiting for my archlute from Luciano. I'll let you all know
what it is like when I get it.
out of 300 lutes Lundberg has examined he has seen the bracing
of maybe 15,
These are just the ones we have opened up and looked inside.
How many have been X-rayed, I wonder.
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Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/
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http://lutemaker.narod.ru
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In terms of bang for the buck, weren't there a couple of lute makers
in Russia and Eastern Europe who were very reasonable. Perhaps Oleg
Timofeyev would be the person that would have that info.
I'm still waiting for my archlute from Luciano. I'll let you all
So, they're online... follow the link baroque folders
Donatella
http://web.tiscali.it/awebd
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Hi Donatella,
Yes, it is rather a pickle isn't it?
I think the truest translation would be:
Do not flatter the strings with the right hand when studying to master them.
i.e. When first learning a piece, don't add ornaments and agrements with
the right hand; first off, learn the fingerings in a simple
Wouldn't that be the left hand rather than the right that adds the
ornaments?
Miles Dempster
On Monday, March 28, 2005, at 07:43 AM, Benjamin Narvey wrote:
Yes, it is rather a pickle isn't it?
I think the truest translation would be:
Do not flatter the strings with the right hand when
Nope. An agrement is anything added to pleasure the ear and enhance the
sound, such as added grace notes, finger sweeps, brise, et cetera, whether
performed by the left hand or right. Even tone colour is sometimes viewed
as agrement in some sources. I do however agree that it is odd Gallot
I've heard that the cheap S. Asian (Pakistani?) lutes on ebay are
trash. More trouble to make them into a lute than they're worth.
I got one of those lutes. It cost me many hours of work (maybe 50-90),
many trips to the hardware store, and 4-5 questions posted here to this
list (for which I
I've always been curious about the aspect of memorization in lute music.
In this paragraph Gallot seems to suggest it. Baron advises to memorize in
the beginning stages of learning, but then goes on to say he's not
recommending it ( don't have the book handy).
Sterling Price, has visited a
Dear Donatella,
yes please, I would like to see what you have described. I think I have seen
such examples in Venice together with glass pens from Murano and paper that
looked too good to write on! I seem to remember one shop that sold minature
books as 'minimal libraries' that were either
Dear Denys,
I don't think I would ever be able to read my own handwriting! but I take the
point about being connected with the music. I used to use a loose-leaf folder
for music that I was preparing for performance(guitar) and I still do that for
choral work but my main problem, if it can be
I want to make a mock-up of a lute
neck, so I can practice while riding a bus.
There'll be no strings, no pegbox, and
no soundboard. Just 14 inches of neck, with some
ridges glued on to represent strings,
and maybe a support scheme (like a handle).
My question is, what is the best way to shape
5. Ne flater pas les cordes de la main droite lors qu'on estudie pour s'en
rendre mieux le maistre.
Stefan Lundgren's rendering (Lute Companion) reads:
Do not [carelessly?] strum the strings with the right hand while
studying.
Best wishes,
Mathias
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i.e. When first learning a piece, don't add ornaments and agrements with
the right hand; first off, learn the fingerings in a simple fashion. This
runs true with the nature of Gallot's other suggestions doubtless designed
for
beginners
cannot find this, i. e. that the simple-version
I do however agree that it is odd Gallot focuses only on the right hand and
not the left also.
Perhaps you focus too much on a secondary meaning of the French word
flatter. Its first meaning is to touch softly, stroke. I take Gallot'
advice #5 to mean that students should keep their RH under
11 Draw knife. Very sharp. Doesn't take very much time. Scrape to desired
smoothness using a piece of broken glass. Tape the glass with duct tape where
you want to hold it or tape all but the edge you're scraping with to avoid
injury and breakage.
Or you could just use the Norm Abram method: Buy
See below:
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i.e. When first learning a piece, don't add ornaments and agrements
with
the right hand; first off, learn the fingerings in a simple fashion.
This
runs true with the nature of
I bought two and sold the one that I did not like as well. THe
more I hear about others' experiences with these lutes the
luckier I feel to have received one of the better ones.
The main problem with the Pakistani lutes is quality control.
Sometimes they arrive in playable condition and sometimes
Yes, perhaps you are right here. Although I am not aware of a contemporary
reference to the verb flater meaning to strum. (Unless I've missed
something!) As far as I know, the verb is synonymous with pincer, to
pluck. In particular reference to Gallot, is there any music written by him
at
But one should not practice them - ideally they should be
improvised in the moment, responding to each unique performance situation.
That applies, I suppose, to the Italian manners, rather than to the
French. Improvisation is confined, though. For both kinds or
embellishments one needs
In particular reference to Gallot, is there any music written by him
at all that actually includes strumming per se? And in the Pieces to which
his instructions pertain?
Gallot has a special sign resembling a T which is put below chords pour
frapper deux chordes du pouce ensemble ou
I think I agree with everything you say. Just to clarify, all that I wrote
above was specifically meant as an attempt to interpret Gallot's statement in
his 'advis' - it is purely within that context that my comments are to be
read. (i.e. I was not in general discourse about this repertoire,
Hmmm, perhaps. I have always viewed that thumb sign as more of a carry
through stroke, a kind of double (or triple) pluck - not a strum per se. For
me, at least, a strum is really more akin to what is done on a baroque guitar,
something that uses several strings (at least 3 anyway to make a
Stefan Lundgren published a huge work for (11-course) baroque lute, the
baroque lute companion which has some 200 pieces in increasing difficulty
level for each of the most used keys along with an introduction into baroque
lute playing quoting several of the main sources.
Very recommendable!
The kingham web site seems to have gone off line a few days ago. When I
attempt to go to http://www.kingham.co.uk/ I receive a page not found error.
Google only returns the same link that I have.
Does anyone know more about this?
Thank you,
Mark Jacobs
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But thanks for the Lundgren translation; just out of curiousity, where is it
from?
Stefan has edited a wonderful very large collection of baroque lute
pieces which he has called The Lute Companion. I guess he still sells
it, and it's worth its price.
This has historically happened to them. I can imagine they are doing work
on the web page.
ed
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The kingham web site seems to have gone off line a few days ago. When I
attempt to go to http://www.kingham.co.uk/ I receive a page not found
Herbert,
I recommend putting strings on it to give your right
hand something to do and to make the practice more
realistic. Without strings, your practice will lack auditory
and tactile feedback, which means that you may practice
something that is incorrect without knowing it.
You could copy
Mark,
If you need to conatact Kingam Case urgently, I can look for Bob Kingham's
email and send it to you. Please let me know.
Best regards,
Marion
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The kingham
Dear Bernd,
According to my Harrap's Standard French and English Dictionary,
flatter la corde means to caress the string, to play with
expression. I think what Gallot is saying is that we should learn a
piece of music absolutely as it is written - in a mechanical way,
exactly in time, and
I agree, without the strings you will get no feel for where the fingers are
going or the back pressure you have to contend with. Frankly though, I
think your problem is greater than that. One of the difficulties with the
Lute is support of the neck without use of the left hand for that function.
Dear Tim
I purchased a renaissance lute, already built, from the Early Music Shop
last November. As far as I know, it was built in the UK. I ordered it in
June 2004 and it was not ready until November. It was relatively cheap as
lutes go, but it is perfectly alright for me as a beginner. In
I've always been curious about the aspect of memorization in lute music.
In this paragraph Gallot seems to suggest it. Baron advises to memorize in
the beginning stages of learning, but then goes on to say he's not
recommending it ( don't have the book handy).
Sterling Price, has visited
Hi,
Who has experience with these 'loaded gut' strings from Aquila? Some say they
are already false when received but how often is this experienced. And what
density is used for this string to calculate diameters? Should be something
like 2.3 times the gut density but not sure about it.
Taco
Some people memorize music by remembering what the sheet
music (whether staff notation or tab) looks like on the printed page.
I once played a concert with a musician who memorized music this
way. Until then, I would never have thought to use this technique.
I memorize music by automatically
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From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 28, 2005 5:09 PM
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Subject: Gallot speaks...
Dear Bernd,
According to my Harrap's Standard French and English Dictionary,
flatter la corde means to caress the string, to play with
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