[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Rank Amateur Recording # 2

2008-01-26 Thread Roman Turovsky
From: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] It would really be nice to get something going with people of all standards happily making contributions. There are many hundreds of subscribers to these lute and baroque guitar lists, but the same 20 or so names just keep contributing. Some of those are very

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: arm pain

2008-01-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Bad news. I'm typing with one hand only as I seem to have a problem with my left. For the past five days I've had muscular pain in my upper left arm. I thought I must have knocked it, but couldn't remember doing so. I did teach a percussion class last Monday, but

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: arm pain

2008-01-26 Thread Ed Martin
Dear Rob, This is unfortunate. We all know what it is to have pain - a miserable experience. Without the benefit of any diagnosis, It sounds to me as though you are having muscular soreness, or tendonitis of some sort. Without examining you, and ruling out any trauma, the one thing that

[LUTE] MetaKaramazov...

2008-01-26 Thread Tony Chalkley
snip But I utterly dislike the jarring sounds at 1:27 ff. WTF is this good for? And why does he change to a comparatively sweet tone a few bars later? The music does not call for this, why these effects? As a matter of interest,are there _any_ performance indications on lute pieces of the

[LUTE] Re: More Karamazov

2008-01-26 Thread G. Crona
This user has uploaded a whole bunch of interesting Sting / Karamazov videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/kondorn Tip: I often go to the user page when I see an interesting video and have a look at his / her other postings. G. - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2008-01-26 Thread gary digman
Where can I find this recording? Monk was anything but sloppy. His music was precise and exacting as any will discover on attempting to play it. And oh how he swung! Gary - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; lutelist

[LUTE] Re: contributions to this list

2008-01-26 Thread Rob
Well, of course I didn't mean everyone, and I have learned much from the considerate members of these lists. There have been moments over years, however... But let us stick to the main thrust of my email, please: contributions and questions from lurkers, especially beginners and what are often

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2008-01-26 Thread Roman Turovsky
Where can I find this recording? It is unreleased. RT Monk was anything but sloppy. His music was precise and exacting as any will discover on attempting to play it. And oh how he swung! Gary - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gary digman [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: jazz on lute

2008-01-26 Thread G. Crona
On the lute? A single strung, metal fretted Liuto forte? Does this qualify as an anachronism? I don't think there is anything here that couldn't be done just as well (or better) on a guitar. But sure, it looks cool, and perhaps there is a timbre or tone quality that could not be replicated on

[LUTE] Re: jazz on lute

2008-01-26 Thread Thomas Schall
That's true My point wasn't to show a extra quality - just that a lute (or in that case a liuto forte) could do anything. And I personally like jazz being played on lutes (or other non-electronic settings). There were settings done of some ragtime standards (Grizzly Bear for instance) and we

[LUTE] Re: jazz on lute

2008-01-26 Thread G. Crona
- Original Message - From: Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: G. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: Re: jazz on lute That's true My point wasn't to show a extra quality - just that a lute (or in that case a

[LUTE] Re: Stringing

2008-01-26 Thread Sean Smith
I'm not sure he has them reversed. At 1:10 minutes into the performance the camera focuses from the nut downward and you can see the lowest course is as as usual. The octaves are moved over slightly to avoid buzzing I suppose. Nice to see it's not the ubiquitous archlute. Sean On Jan 26,

[LUTE] Re: contributions to this list

2008-01-26 Thread Grant Green
.. And then some of us are pre-beginners, not having a lute of any form yet... For the past 40+ years, I've mainly played woodwinds and classical guitar, but have recently become interested in playing with a local early music group (recorders, shawms, crumhorns, etc.). (I've owned a raft of early

[LUTE] Re: contributions to this list

2008-01-26 Thread Rob
Hi Grant, At 88.5 cms it will give you a big sound but would be quite a stretch for a beginner. The price, under a thousand pounds, is excellent, but I can't comment on the quality. You mention shawms, crumhorns - sounds more like a Renaissance consort for which a theorbo might not be entirely

[LUTE] Re: contributions to this list

2008-01-26 Thread Grant Green
Hi Rob, The bass lute sounds like a good suggestion too, but there is only so much I can talk the wife into at a time ;-) The group I hope to join covers Renaissance through Baroque, and are not terribly strict about the instrumentation. I figure the theorbo would be more authentic than the

[LUTE] Re: contributions to this list

2008-01-26 Thread Michael Bocchicchio
--- Grant Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on the Early Music Shop theorbo that's now being advertised? I am strictly a hobbyist player: Grant, I'm a luthier in Nor Cal. I just finished repairing/making functional a Pakistani theorbo from EMS for a customer. The

[LUTE] Weiss on a guitar....

2008-01-26 Thread Bernd Haegemann
from the French list, a Spanish guitarist... et pour faire bonne mesure le même avec Weiss http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=oAbo3j6odSM http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=oAbo3j6odSM http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jshjVHocIvI http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jshjVHocIvI To get on or off this

[LUTE] Re: jazz on lute

2008-01-26 Thread Alan S.
Isn't that u tube piece an example of how NOT to play your lute. I felt bad for the poor instrument. Why was that guying treating her like a guitar? Alan On Jan 26, 2008 8:40 AM, Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, just to show how flexible the instrument could be used:

[LUTE] Re: Weiss on a guitar...corrected.

2008-01-26 Thread Bernd Haegemann
Subject: [LUTE] Weiss on a guitar from the French list, a Spanish guitarist... et pour faire bonne mesure le même avec Weiss http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=oAbo3j6odSM http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=jshjVHocIvI ca suffit ;) To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Stringing

2008-01-26 Thread David Tayler
A very nice music stand is the manhasset baby voyager. dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Picardy puzzle

2008-01-26 Thread Gernot Hilger
The music can be found in Werner Icking's archive which is normally quite reliable and a great source. http://icking-music-archive.org/scores/bach/cello_suites/vc100712.pdf g On 26.01.2008, at 22:33, Roman Turovsky wrote: Could anyone check whether the cello version of BWV 995 has

[LUTE] Re: Picardy puzzle

2008-01-26 Thread David Tayler
The Bach Suite editions on Icking have a lot of mistakes in them. You can find the facsimile on the internet, if I have time I'll do that tonight. dt At 01:44 PM 1/26/2008, you wrote: The music can be found in Werner Icking's archive which is normally quite reliable and a great source.

[LUTE] Re: Picardy puzzle

2008-01-26 Thread Roman Turovsky
Having just checked Icking agaist Civiol- picardy in the cello version, minor in the lute one. Where are all the lawyers here??? Tome to sue someone. Falckenhagen maybe??? RT - Original Message - From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: Stringing

2008-01-26 Thread Roman Turovsky
Funny you should mention stands. I just bought one an hour ago... RT - Original Message - From: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 4:42 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stringing A very nice music stand is the

[LUTE] Re: Picardy puzzle

2008-01-26 Thread Gernot Hilger
There is a facsimile at: http://www.wimmercello.com/bachs5ms.html On 26.01.2008, at 22:47, David Tayler wrote: The Bach Suite editions on Icking have a lot of mistakes in them. You can find the facsimile on the internet, if I have time I'll do that tonight. dt At 01:44 PM 1/26/2008, you

[LUTE] holograph, was Bach 995

2008-01-26 Thread David Tayler
Yes--the wimmer is the one I use. When Wimmer says autograph I believe he means it in the sense of Holograph. A nice example of holograph vs autograph; Magdalena is considered autograph for the cello suites because it is not in the composer's handwriting, unless anna arranged (or had a hand in

[LUTE] Re: contributions to this list

2008-01-26 Thread Grant Green
Ah, now this is the sort of input I was looking for. Many thanks for the warning. I, too, live in Northern California, just North of San Jose. Do you know of a decent bass lute in the area that would be for sale? Thanks, Grant On Jan 26, 2008 12:34 PM, Michael Bocchicchio [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[LUTE] Re: Picardy puzzle

2008-01-26 Thread Roman Turovsky
Thanks. Exceedingly helpful. RT - Original Message - From: Leslie Ifshin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:03 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Picardy puzzle You make it hard for a lute-studying cellist to stay in lurkdom! I

[LUTE] Re: Picardy puzzle

2008-01-26 Thread David Tayler
You can see some of the issues here http://www.cello.org/Newsletter/Reviews/bach_frei.htm I just use Anna Magdalena. Why not? dt To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: jazz on lute

2008-01-26 Thread Ed Durbrow
It is very nice performance, but is it really a lute? It said Liuto Forte in E in the notes to the video. Sounds much more like a guitar to me and it looked like he had it tuned in guitar intervals by the chord shapes he was using. But yeah, there is no reason one could not do that with a

[LUTE] Re: Stringing

2008-01-26 Thread Ed Durbrow
On Jan 27, 2008, at 2:07 AM, G. Crona wrote: Look at the way the stringing is done on this one, with the thinner course above the thicker one. Is this the norm? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cO5QOqqWqw No. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www9.plala.or.jp/edurbrow/

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo in G?

2008-01-26 Thread Ed Durbrow
But look at how many pieces are in the key of F for a nominal G Renaissance lute. I would expect something close to the same proportions transposed up a tone for a theorbo in A. cheers, On Jan 16, 2008, at 2:07 AM, Rob wrote: I have a theorbo being made now by Malcolm Prior for delivery by

[LUTE] Re: jazz on lute

2008-01-26 Thread Grant Green
Looks like they're talking about the modernized version, http://www.liuto-forte.com/EN/index.cfm Enjoy, Grant On Jan 26, 2008 7:22 PM, Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is very nice performance, but is it really a lute? It said Liuto Forte in E in the notes to the video. Sounds much