[LUTE] Re: Comma, again

2009-03-06 Thread Martin Shepherd
Oops, I meant this to go to the list as well... Dear Mathias, The comma usually means a backfall - there are lots of nice examples in the ML (Sturt) lute book. When you have all three signs like this the implication is that the + sign is a forefall or double forefall (=wholefall, up two

[LUTE] OT, humor

2009-03-06 Thread demery
while googling for a translation of some legal latin (mutatis mutandum) I stumbled into the following on a new zealand site (trust the kiwi sense of humor) ... As the law classically expresses it, a kitchen is 'camera necessaria pro uses cookare: cum sauce-pannis, stew-pannis, scullero,

[LUTE] two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread David van Ooijen
From Monteverdi's Maria Vespers. It's from a concert in 2006. Pulchra es: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55n1n6vNScM (note the glaringly obvious tastini on the theorbo) and Nigra Sum: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94-NIURkU8I enjoy David -- *** David van

[LUTE] Comma, again

2009-03-06 Thread Stewart McCoy
Dear Mathias, I agree with Martin. The length of an ornament (or grace) is determined by the length of the note, so # for a short note might be an upper mordent, but it could be a long trill if the note was long enough. Presumably the backfall grew into the appoggiatura. By the way, Dowland

[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread wikla
On 3/6/2009, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: From Monteverdi's Maria Vespers. It's from a concert in 2006. Pulchra es: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55n1n6vNScM (note the glaringly obvious tastini on the theorbo) Beautiful performances (and singers! ;-). Thanks David!

[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread wikla
Oops, you never should play continuo by more than one instrument! When I was talking of the 4th string, I had a lute/archlute in G in mind. And when I was talking of the 3rd string, I had a theorbo in A in my mind! Sorry! ;-) And BTW this mixing of an instrument in G or in A happens also in the

[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread Miles Dempster
David, The g# on the 4th fret an octave higher...? Does that mean that your second course is not re-entrant? A toy theorbo indeed. Miles Dempster On 6-Mar-09, at 5:11 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM, wi...@cs.helsinki.fi wrote: On 3/6/2009, David van

[LUTE] Re: two new videos

2009-03-06 Thread David van Ooijen
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Miles Dempster miles.demps...@globetrotter.net wrote: David, The g# on the 4th fret an octave higher...? Does that mean that your second course is not re-entrant? Did I writet that?? One cannot be clear enough: Open 4th string g is one octave higher than open