[BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Bittner and Esaias Reusner Facsimiles

2009-05-22 Thread Marcelo F lorenciano Alonso
Hi, lute listers! I am looking for these tabs below: REUSNER, ESAIAS. 1667 - Delitiae testudinis French tab for 11-course Baroque lute. BITTNER, JACQUES. 1682 - Pieces de Luth. French tab for 11-course Baroque lute. Does anyone know where I can get these

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Jacques Bittner and Esaias Reusner Facsimiles

2009-05-22 Thread Mathias Rösel
Both are available from www.tree-edition.com Mathias Marcelo F lorenciano Alonso marcelo.alo...@yahoo.com.br schrieb: Hi, lute listers! I am looking for these tabs below: REUSNER, ESAIAS. 1667 - Delitiae testudinis French tab for 11-course Baroque lute.

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-22 Thread demery
On Thu, May 21, 2009, angevin...@att.net said: What the lute world lacks is a great pedagogue. not entirely convinced of that. We have some folk who are paying their dues and earning my respect, Ron McFarlane being just one. His column in the LSA Q, his videos, and his dedication to not

[LUTE] What was/did a Thurnermeister?

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
I found refereneces for several baroque composers having been Thurnermeister, but cannot find a translation. David -- *** David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com www.davidvanooijen.nl *** To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: What was/did a Thurnermeister?

2009-05-22 Thread dc
David van Ooijen écrit: I found refereneces for several baroque composers having been Thurnermeister, but cannot find a translation. The latest edition of the Grove translates this (rather losely, it seem) as director of instrumental music. Dennis To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: What was/did a Thurnermeister?

2009-05-22 Thread Anthony Hind
David I found this: A Thurnermeister (”Master of the. Towers”) was in charge of a small group of musicians (”Stadtpfeiffer”) who were emplyed by a city, os less ... http://oj.melhus.com/projects/barokkprosjekt/raum_programnotes.pdf; regards Anthony Le 22 mai 09 à 17:07, David van

[LUTE] Re: Solitary notes.

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Herbert Ward wa...@physics.utexas.edu wrote: In a multi-voice lute part, one occassionally finds a note plucked at a time when no other notes are plucked. Are we talking about Thomas Campion, Author of light? I don't see an F# but a C# as last note of measure

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 6:17 PM, howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com wrote: I explained to him that pretty much all the solo renaissance lute records made in the recent decades are in some sort of meantone, that players don't tend to advertise their tuning systems, I happen to have seen a

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Guy Smith
I think POD is usually in 1/4 comma meantone. IIRC, the lutes he's played at LSA all have tastini, and the fret spacing looks like 1/4 comma (it's too irregular for 1/6 comma, anyway). Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Guy Smith guy_m_sm...@comcast.net wrote: I think POD is usually in 1/4 comma meantone. IIRC, the lutes he's played at LSA all have tastini, and the fret spacing looks like 1/4 comma (it's too irregular for 1/6 comma, anyway). 1/4 MT is just as regular as 1/6,

[LUTE] Capirola

2009-05-22 Thread Luca Manassero
Dear Collective Wisdom, as many between us, I prefer to play using (when available) a fac-simile: it may sound a little fondamentalist, but it adds some (hidden?) pleasure. In the case of the excessively beautiful Capirola's book the pleasure is partially diminished by the fact the SPES

[LUTE] cantio ruthenica LXXXII

2009-05-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/images/239.pdf http://www.torban.org/ruthenicae/audio/239.mp3 Enjoy, RT To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Capirola

2009-05-22 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Luca and all, There is no on-line facsimile of Capirola. I have wished, for years, that someone would publish a high quality color facsimile and I have asked various publishers if they would be interested, but the reply was that the cost would be very prohibitive. I recall a few years

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread chriswilke
Guy, Paul uses the ad hoc approach mentioned by Howard. 1/4 comma is usually the basis, but he tunes chords as needed by the key, their frequency within a piece, context, degree of tension desired, etc. As always on the lute, there is often some degree of compromise

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Martin Shepherd
Dear Rob and All, Yes I still have it (the book) though I'm not sure where the tape is. As I remember, the tape sounded truly dreadful (with due apologies to Jacob, who doubtless was given an impossible job in this case) - the first Prelude from Attaignant (now thought to be probably by

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread David van Ooijen
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Martin Shepherd mar...@luteshop.co.uk wrote: Something I have only become aware of recently is that piano tuners in the 19th/20th century who thought they were tuning ET actually modified it slightly, They always did and still do. But intentionally, mind you,

[LUTE] Re: Capirola

2009-05-22 Thread wikla
Dear Edward, Luca and others On 5/22/2009, Edward Martin e...@gamutstrings.com wrote: There is no on-line facsimile of Capirola. I have wished, for years, that someone would publish a high quality color facsimile and I have asked various publishers if they would be interested, but the reply

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Leonard Williams
Suggested reading: How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (And Why You Should Care) by Ross W. Duffin. It seems ET has never been universally accepted. Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \ | * | \_=_/ On 5/22/09 4:35 PM, David van Ooijen

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
And nether was MT. RT From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Suggested reading: How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (And Why You Should Care) by Ross W. Duffin. It seems ET has never been universally accepted. Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \ | * |

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
i.e. neiter. RT And nether was MT. RT From: Leonard Williams arc...@verizon.net Suggested reading: How Equal Temperament Ruined Harmony (And Why You Should Care) by Ross W. Duffin. It seems ET has never been universally accepted. Regards, Leonard Williams /[ ] / \

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Rob MacKillop
There may be one or two of you interested in the banjo c.1860-1900 (as I am). There was a period of squabbles and unrest as players moved from fretless instruments to fretted ones. Many of the old (fretless) guys complained that the new frets forced you to play out of tune. Some

[LUTE] Re: Lute recordings in meantone

2009-05-22 Thread Rob MacKillop
This link works better: [1]http://tinyurl.com/oaeu37 Rob 2009/5/22 Rob MacKillop [2]luteplay...@googlemail.com There may be one or two of you interested in the banjo c.1860-1900 (as I am). There was a period of squabbles and unrest as players moved from fretless

[LUTE] Re: help for 'improving' lute and vihuela players

2009-05-22 Thread Ed Durbrow
On May 22, 2009, at 1:29 AM, chriswi...@yahoo.com chriswi...@yahoo.com wrote: Roman, Pat is indeed a great pedagogue, but only available regularly to those in NYC. Word has it that he's been working on a method book for the past 30 years or so. No plans for release in