[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

2010-01-28 Thread G. Crona
Dumb question. Can't you just restring mirrored? Still playable? G. - Original Message - From: Steve Ramey stevera...@sbcglobal.net To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 4:34 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] 13C Baroque Lute for Sale All, There is a 1980

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

2010-01-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
Wichever type it is, the bass rider or the swan neck will be on the wrong side. Mathias G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com schrieb: Dumb question. Can't you just restring mirrored? Still playable? G. - Original Message - From: Steve Ramey stevera...@sbcglobal.net To:

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

2010-01-28 Thread Paolo Busato
..and the strings spacing at the bridge will be wrong (also the leaning of the neck and the internal barring -if not perfectly symmetrical-). Regards, Paolo Busato lute-maker www.busatolutes.com e-mail: paolo.bus...@busatolutes.com

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

2010-01-28 Thread G. Crona
Haven't seen the Ebay ad. But was thinking more in terms of 11 course, as depicted in Giesbert, not 13 course. Sorry. G. - Original Message - From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de To: G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, January 28,

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

2010-01-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
Yes, it would do so. Giesbert's model has a treble rider. Yet even if it hadn't, the bars under the soundboard wouldn't match. Many baroque lutes still have the old J-bar on the bass side or something to the effect (it's not always a J), most have distinct fan bars on the descant side. I'm not

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

2010-01-28 Thread G. Crona
But playable it would be (with minor alterations), no? - Original Message - From: Mathias Rösel mathias.roe...@t-online.de To: G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com Cc: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:41 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale

2010-01-28 Thread Dale Young
There is no-one to do alterations. - Original Message - From: G. Crona kalei...@gmail.com To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 2:59 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: 13C Baroque Lute for Sale But playable it would be (with minor alterations), no? -

[LUTE] Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread Mark Probert
Hi.. I am wondering if anyone has any pointers to facsimile editions, on-line by preference, of early French Baroque air de cours. Folk such as Antoine Boesset, Germain Pinel, Michel Lambert, Sebastien le Camus and, of course, M-A Charpentier (he is the easiest to find). Any help greatly

[LUTE] Re: Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread David van Ooijen
Minkoff has the Bataille / Ballard series I (1608) to XV (1632) with tablatures. http://www.minkoff-editions.com/ Musica Musica from Switserland has some Moulinié et al with tablatures I don't know their web-address. Fuzeau has the later airs de cour with contnuo bass (e.g. De Bacilly)

[LUTE] Re: Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread David van Ooijen
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 9:44 AM, David van Ooijen davidvanooi...@gmail.com wrote: Minkoff has the Bataille / Ballard series  I (1608) to XV (1632) with tablatures. http://www.minkoff-editions.com/ Musica Musica from Switserland has some Moulinié et al with tablatures I don't know their

[LUTE] Re: Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread Mark Probert
DvO DvO bring out your DvO Many thanks, David! Brilliant, as usual. I also found http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~john-powell/AirsDeDifferentsCompositeurs/ Though the quality leaves something to be desired... .. mark To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: A mandora by Hoffmann (1733) on eBay?

2010-01-28 Thread Martyn Hodgson
I can see no reason to suppose it's an 18thC mandora (noteably neck too short, bridge design/position wrong) but before casting it into Stygian gloom of fakery there is just a possibility it could originally have been one of the many 18thC Italian 6/7 course lutes so often depicted

[LUTE] Re: A mandora by Hoffmann (1733) on eBay?

2010-01-28 Thread David Tayler
A very suspicious looking lute, looks like someone concerted it to an oud. Who knows, maybe there is some original wood in it, but I wouldn't buy it on the basis of the picture. dt At 11:23 AM 1/27/2010, you wrote: No, the neck profile on it was definitely of much older origin. RT - Original

[LUTE] Re: Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread Arto Wikla
And if also continuo songs will do, there is the wonderful page (and facsimile) of Brunetes ou petits airs tendres / Christophe Ballard, Paris 1703, 1704 and 1711: http://www.cowderoy.net/brunetes/index.html Arto Mark Probert wrote: DvO DvO bring out your DvO Many thanks, David!

[LUTE] Re: Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread Bernd Haegemann
if Bataille will do, I found a while ago his 6 books is scribd! Try http://www.scribd.com/search?cat=redesignq=bataillequery=bataillex=0y=0 this search is quicker (and more narrow): http://www.scribd.com/search?cat=internalq=Batailleuser_id=8595 To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread Bernd Haegemann
http://www.scribd.com/doc/19343214/Etienne-Moulinie-Airs-de-cour-3e-Livre-1629 *** modern edition, without tablature: http://www.scribd.com/doc/6113883/Chansons-et-Airs-de-Cour-15871617- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Air de cours

2010-01-28 Thread jelmaa
There are a lot of free airs de cour here: http://www.digitale-sammlungen.de/index.html?c=suchenl=de search for instance on the keyword 'serieux' and you getnumerous Airs serieux et a boire, which you can download as pdf. Best wishes, Jelma van Amersfoort On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:00 AM,

[LUTE] Re: Paladin

2010-01-28 Thread G. Crona
And also note that there are 3 different Bianchinis: Domenico Rosetto, This one, Francesco (related?) and possibly Pierre Blondeau (Pietro Bianchini?) who worked with Attaingnant. See Brown and New Grove for more interesting info on Francesco Bianchini. - Original Message - From:

[LUTE] Re: Paladin

2010-01-28 Thread Spring, aus dem, Rainer
-Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of G. Crona Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 1:15 PM To: Lutelist Subject: [LUTE] Re: Paladin And also note that there are 3 different Bianchinis: Domenico Rosetto, This one, Francesco

[LUTE] Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-28 Thread Andrew Gibbs
Away with these self-loving synthetics, Whom Cupid's arrow never... err hmmm... wears cosmetics... needs local anaesthetics?...bad poetics! On 28 Jan 2010, at 13:13, Monica Hall wrote: I wholeheartedly agree. The same is true for the baroque guitar. Away with all these synthetics.

[LUTE] Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-28 Thread Daniel Shoskes
Well, call me gutless, but now having several instruments, some with and some without gut, I'm not a convert and not rushing out to change all my synthetic strings to gut. I certainly like the sound of gut, especially on my 11 course lute playing pre-Weiss d minor tuning music and

[LUTE] Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-28 Thread Daniel Winheld
I think Joe is just going with his gut. (I know the sound better part is only an opinion, but the only-an-opinion thing hasn't seemed to slow down the gut advocates.) Respectfully, Joseph Mayes Like some of the rest of us, I've been following the double-track path of getting the best gut

[LUTE] Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-28 Thread chriswilke
Gut strings must have been fantastic. Isn't it a pity none survived so that no one will never know how they actually sounded? Lucky we have these nice synthetics... Chris --- On Thu, 1/28/10, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk wrote: From: Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [LUTE]

[LUTE] Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-28 Thread David van Ooijen
   There's no reason to use the synthetics just because Ronn McFarlane, Paul O'Dette, and Nigel North use them Indeed, and Francesco, Dowland and Weiss used gut. Who would you like to follow? David - follows himself -- *** David van Ooijen

[LUTE] Re: Looking for Rossi tune

2010-01-28 Thread David van Ooijen
I think it's on the Tragicomedia CD with Suzie LeBlanc. Liner notes somewhere ... somebody with a better organised CD collection? David - fighting against the chaos in life. Losing. On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Jeffrey Noonan jjnoo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:   Hi luters   I just had a

[LUTE] Re: Switching between gut strings and synthetics?

2010-01-28 Thread wolfgang wiehe
especially for the vegetarians, vegans and those with wet finger tips. w. Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:22:48 -0800 (PST) Von: chriswi...@yahoo.com An: David Tayler vidan...@sbcglobal.net, Monica Hall mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk CC: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu