It went for 2,518,500 pounds to -- a private chinese investor. Sigh... Stephan
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Peter Steur Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Juli 2016 12:33 An: Bernd Haegemann; Stephan Olbertz Cc: Lute Betreff: [LUTE] Re: original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's --------------Boundary-00=_VM67UO3PJZY3LVC00000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some background information can be found at: www.japantimes.co jp/news/2016/06/29/national/bach-score-owned-tokyo-music-college-may-fetch-3 - illion-auction/#.V4TGR_yKSvE. Peter -------Messaggio originale------- Da: Stephan Olbertz Data: 12/07/2016 12:29:48 A: 'Peter Steur'; 'Bernd Haegemann' Cc: 'Lute' Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's Ueno Gakuen is a private university. Although it seems not to be known how much they paid for it, they will definitely earn some money: The Ms was sold in the late sixties for only 5,500 pounds to a previous owner and is now estimated with up to 2,500,000 pounds... And they are getting rid of the responsibility to conserve it. Many thanks to Bernd for sharing the link! BTW, there is a nice commercial video featuring Jakob Lindberg on the website, too. Stephan -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag von Peter Steur Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Juli 2016 11:51 An: Bernd Haegemann Cc: Lute Betreff: [LUTE] Re: original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's --------------Boundary-00=_6P47SCAK8ID3LVC00000 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had always thought that this particular ms was kept in a public library somewhere. But the simple fact that it is now on auction (together with other, much older, mss) suggests that all these mss are (still) privately owned. Personally, I can only hope that one of the world's libraries will be in the position to acquire one or more of these mss! Were it just for the sake of having access to them. Peter -------Messaggio originale------- Da: b...@symbol4.de Data: 12/07/2016 10:44:56 Cc: List LUTELIST Oggetto: [LUTE] original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/books-manuscripts/bach-johann-sebast ian-6012445-details.aspx To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --------------Boundary-00=_6P47SCAK8ID3LVC00000 Content-Type: Text/HTML; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><HEAD> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META name=GENERATOR content="IncrediMail 1.0"> <STYLE>v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml) } </STYLE> <!--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart> <IncrdiX-Info> <X-FID>79F8FDE2-E90C-4120-9A2C-E484CCFAA091</X-FID> <X-FVER></X-FVER> <X-FIT></X-FIT> <X-FILE></X-FILE> <X-FCOL></X-FCOL> <X-FCAT></X-FCAT> <X-FDIS></X-FDIS> <X-Extensions></X-Extensions> <X-BG></X-BG> <X-BGT>repeat</X-BGT> <X-BGC>#ffffff</X-BGC> <X-BGPX></X-BGPX> <X-BGPY></X-BGPY> <X-ASN></X-ASN> <X-ASNF></X-ASNF> <X-ASH></X-ASH> <X-ASHF></X-ASHF> <X-AN></X-AN> <X-ANF></X-ANF> <X-AP></X-AP> <X-APF></X-APF> <X-AD></X-AD> <X-ADF></X-ADF> <X-AUTO>X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD</X-AUTO> <X-CNT>;</X-CNT> </IncrdiX-Info> <IncrdiXMLRemarkEnd--> </HEAD> <BODY style="SCROLLBAR-HIGHLIGHT-COLOR: ; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: ; SCROLLBAR-3DLIGHT-COLOR: ; SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: ; MARGIN: 5px 10px 0px; SCROLLBAR-SHADOW-COLOR: ; SCROLLBAR-DARKSHADOW-COLOR: " background="" scroll=yes bgColor=#ffffff> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; POSITION: relative; DIRECTION: ltr" width="100%"> <DIV id=INCREDI_TEXT_AREA style="PADDING-LEFT: 2px"> <DIV> <DIV>I had always thought that this particular ms was kept in a public library somewhere. But the simple fact that it is now on auction (together with other, much older, mss) suggests that all these mss are (still) privately owned.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Personally, I can only hope that one of the world's libraries will be in the position to acquire one or more of these mss! Were it just for the sake of having access to them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Peter</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I>-------Messaggio originale-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Da:</B></I> <A href="mailto:b...@symbol4.de">b...@symbol4.de</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Data:</B></I> 12/07/2016 10:44:56</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Cc:</B></I> <A href="mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>List LUTELIST</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Oggetto:</B></I> [LUTE] original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <A href="http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/books-manuscripts/bach-johann-sebas t">http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/books-manuscripts/bach-johann-sebast</ A></DIV> <DIV> ian-6012445-details.aspx</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To get on or off this list see list information at</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html";>http://www.cs. dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html</A></DIV></DIV></TD></TR> <TR> <TD id=INCREDIFOOTER width="100%"> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"> <TBODY> <TR> <TD width="100%"></TD> <TD id=INCREDISOUND vAlign=bottom align=center></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><SPAN id=IncrediStamp> <DIV id=fallback> <TABLE title="Animazioni GRATIS per la tua e-mail" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=580 align=center border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD style="PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; 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FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: ; SCROLLBAR-3DLIGHT-COLOR: ; SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: ; MARGIN: 5px 10px 0px; SCROLLBAR-SHADOW-COLOR: ; SCROLLBAR-DARKSHADOW-COLOR: " background="" scroll=yes bgColor=#ffffff> <TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; POSITION: relative; DIRECTION: ltr" width="100%"> <DIV id=INCREDI_TEXT_AREA style="PADDING-LEFT: 2px"> <DIV> <DIV>Some background information can be found at:</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2016/06/29/national/bach-score-owned- tokyo-music-college-may-fetch-3-million-auction/#.V4TGR_yKSvE">www.japantime s.co.jp/news/2016/06/29/national/bach-score-owned-tokyo-music-college-may-fe tch-3-million-auction/#.V4TGR_yKSvE</A>.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Peter </DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I>-------Messaggio originale-------</I></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Da:</B></I> <A href="mailto:stephan.olbe...@web.de";>Stephan Olbertz</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Data:</B></I> 12/07/2016 12:29:48</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>A:</B></I> <A href="mailto:p.st...@inrim.it";>'Peter Steur'</A>; <A href="mailto:b...@symbol4.de";>'Bernd Haegemann'</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Cc:</B></I> <A href="mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>'Lute'</A></DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Oggetto:</B></I> [LUTE] Re: original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's</DIV></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ueno Gakuen is a private university. Although it seems not to be known how</DIV> <DIV>much they paid for it, they will definitely earn some money: The Ms was sold</DIV> <DIV>in the late sixties for only 5,500 pounds to a previous owner and is now</DIV> <DIV>estimated with up to 2,500,000 pounds... And they are getting rid of the</DIV> <DIV>responsibility to conserve it.</DIV> <DIV>Many thanks to Bernd for sharing the link!</DIV> <DIV>BTW, there is a nice commercial video featuring Jakob Lindberg on the</DIV> <DIV>website, too.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Stephan</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----</DIV> <DIV>Von: <A href="mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A> [<A href="mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A> ] Im Auftrag</DIV> <DIV>von Peter Steur</DIV> <DIV>Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Juli 2016 11:51</DIV> <DIV>An: Bernd Haegemann</DIV> <DIV>Cc: Lute</DIV> <DIV>Betreff: [LUTE] Re: original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--------------Boundary-00=_6P47SCAK8ID3LVC00000</DIV> <DIV>Content-Type: Text/Plain;</DIV> <DIV> charset="iso-8859-1"</DIV> <DIV>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I had always thought that this particular ms was kept in a public library</DIV> <DIV>somewhere. But the simple fact that it is now on auction (together with</DIV> <DIV>other, much older, mss) suggests that all these mss are (still) privately</DIV> <DIV>owned.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Personally, I can only hope that one of the world's libraries will be in the</DIV> <DIV>position to acquire one or more of these mss! Were it just for the sake of</DIV> <DIV>having access to them.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Peter</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>-------Messaggio originale-------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Da: <A href="mailto:b...@symbol4.de";>b...@symbol4.de</A></DIV> <DIV>Data: 12/07/2016 10:44:56</DIV> <DIV>Cc: List LUTELIST</DIV> <DIV>Oggetto: [LUTE] original ms of BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <A href="http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/books-manuscripts/bach-johann-sebas t">http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/books-manuscripts/bach-johann-sebast</ A></DIV> <DIV> ian-6012445-details.aspx</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To get on or off this list see list information at</DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html";>http://www.cs. dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html</A></DIV> <DIV>--------------Boundary-00=_6P47SCAK8ID3LVC00000</DIV> <DIV>Content-Type: Text/HTML;</DIV> <DIV> charset="iso-8859-1"</DIV> <DIV>Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><HTML><HEAD></DIV> <DIV><META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type> <META</DIV> <DIV>name=GENERATOR content="IncrediMail 1.0"></DIV> <DIV><STYLE>v\:* {</DIV> <DIV> BEHAVIOR: url (#default#vml)</DIV> <DIV>}</DIV> <DIV></STYLE></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><!--IncrdiXMLRemarkStart></DIV> <DIV><IncrdiX-Info></DIV> <DIV><X-FID>79F8FDE2-E90C-4120-9A2C-E484CCFAA091</X-FID></DIV> <DIV><X-FVER></X-FVER></DIV> <DIV><X-FIT></X-FIT></DIV> <DIV><X-FILE></X-FILE></DIV> <DIV><X-FCOL></X-FCOL></DIV> <DIV><X-FCAT></X-FCAT></DIV> <DIV><X-FDIS></X-FDIS></DIV> <DIV><X-Extensions></X-Extensions></DIV> <DIV><X-BG></X-BG></DIV> <DIV><X-BGT>repeat</X-BGT></DIV> <DIV><X-BGC>#ffffff</X-BGC></DIV> <DIV><X-BGPX></X-BGPX></DIV> <DIV><X-BGPY></X-BGPY></DIV> <DIV><X-ASN></X-ASN></DIV> <DIV><X-ASNF></X-ASNF></DIV> <DIV><X-ASH></X-ASH></DIV> <DIV><X-ASHF></X-ASHF></DIV> <DIV><X-AN></X-AN></DIV> <DIV><X-ANF></X-ANF></DIV> <DIV><X-AP></X-AP></DIV> <DIV><X-APF></X-APF></DIV> <DIV><X-AD></X-AD></DIV> <DIV><X-ADF></X-ADF></DIV> <DIV><X-AUTO>X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD</X-AUTO></DIV> <DIV><X-CNT>;</X-CNT></DIV> <DIV></IncrdiX-Info></DIV> <DIV><IncrdiXMLRemarkEnd--></DIV> <DIV></HEAD></DIV> <DIV><BODY style="SCROLLBAR-HIGHLIGHT-COLOR: ; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY:</DIV> <DIV>Arial; SCROLLBAR-FACE-COLOR: ; SCROLLBAR-3DLIGHT-COLOR: ;</DIV> <DIV>SCROLLBAR-ARROW-COLOR: ; MARGIN: 5px 10px 0px; SCROLLBAR-SHADOW-COLOR: ;</DIV> <DIV>SCROLLBAR-DARKSHADOW-COLOR: " background="" scroll=yes bgColor=#ffffff></DIV> <DIV><TABLE id=INCREDIMAINTABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 width="100%"</DIV> <DIV>border=0> <TBODY> <TR> <TD id=INCREDITEXTREGION style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt;</DIV> <DIV>POSITION: relative; DIRECTION: ltr" width="100%"> <DIV id=INCREDI_TEXT_AREA</DIV> <DIV>style="PADDING-LEFT: 2px"> <DIV> <DIV>I had always thought that this</DIV> <DIV>particular ms was kept in a public library somewhere. But the simple fact</DIV> <DIV>that it is now on auction (together with other, much older, mss) suggests</DIV> <DIV>that all these mss are (still) privately owned.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV> <DIV><DIV>Personally, I can only hope that one of the world's libraries will be</DIV> <DIV>in the position to acquire one or more of&nbsp;these mss! Were it just for</DIV> <DIV>the sake of having access to them.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Peter</DIV></DIV> <DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV></DIV> <DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV> <DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV id=IncrediOriginalMessage style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"</DIV> <DIV>dir=ltr><I>-------Messaggio originale-------</I></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV> <DIV><DIV id=receivestrings> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt"</DIV> <DIV>dir=ltr><I><B>Da:</B></I> <A</DIV> <DIV>href="<A href="mailto:b...@symbol4.de";>mailto:b...@symbol4.de</A>"&<A href="mailto:gt;b...@symbol4.de";>gt;b...@symbol4.de</A></A></DIV></D IV> <DIV><DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Data:</B></I> 12/07/2016</DIV> <DIV>10:44:56</DIV> <DIV style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Cc:</B></I> <A</DIV> <DIV>href="<A href="mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu</A>">Lis t LUTELIST</A></DIV> <DIV</DIV> <DIV>style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt" dir=ltr><I><B>Oggetto:</B></I> [LUTE] original ms of</DIV> <DIV>BWV 998 tomorrow in auction of Christie's</DIV></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV> <DIV><DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp; 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