[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread howard posner
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Alain Veylit wrote: > > I have a practical question : is it common practice for Baroque lute players > to also adjust their frets when they change their diapason tuning? No, it’s common practice to tune the diapasons to the fretted notes if tuning them to G,

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Mathias Rösel
Never ever. There seem to be people, though, who shift their 4th frets a bit down so as to get something close to the pure major third on the 1st to 6th courses. There's no need at all to do that IMHO as long as the lute is properly tuned. Mathias

[LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread David Van Edwards
And not to forget Stefan Lundgren's chamber opera on that very incident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMkbZ3tfFjs Best wishes, David At 19:18 +0200 23/7/19, Lex van Sante wrote: The name of the violinist was Petit, who thought that his host (Weiss) had spoken against him when he was

[LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Lex van Sante
The name of the violinist was Petit, who thought that his host (Weiss) had spoken against him when he was applying for a job in Dresden. Cheers, Lex > Op 23 jul. 2019, om 17:58 heeft howard posner het > volgende geschreven: > > The biter was a violinist. The bitee was Weiss. > >> On

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Alain Veylit
I have a practical question : is it common practice for Baroque lute players to also adjust their frets when they change their diapason tuning? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread howard posner
The biter was a violinist. The bitee was Weiss. > On Jul 23, 2019, at 8:45 AM, theoj89...@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu wrote: > > Didn't a musician (lute player?) try to bite the thumb off another > musician? I can't remember the details- > I bet the disagreement was over tempered tuning.

[LUTE] Re: Wishful thinking on lute temparaments was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread theoj89294
Didn't a musician (lute player?) try to bite the thumb off another musician? I can't remember the details- I bet the disagreement was over tempered tuning. They didn't have the internet back then. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Roman Turovsky
sometimes even with bagpipes. RT On 7/22/2019 1:59 PM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: Citterns play in only 2 keys, and hardly ever with other instruments. so it is not a problem there. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. On Jul 22, 2019, at 10:47 AM, David

[LUTE] Re: What precisely is meant by 'meantone' temperament on the lute? was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Martyn wrote: "Much is freely bandied with phrases about 1/4 comma, 1/6 comma, 1/8 comma and other unequal temperaments but rarely ... is it ever spelt out what precise numerical fretting positions are actually employed..." ..or what comma is used, one might add. It does make a difference, and

[LUTE] What precisely is meant by 'meantone' temperament on the lute? was Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Further to all this, but on a slightly different tack: what precisely is it that individuals mean when they advocate some particular form of unequal temperament on the lute? Much is freely bandied with phrases about 1/4 comma, 1/6 comma, 1/8 comma and other unequal temperaments but

[LUTE] Re: Lute Temperaments

2019-07-23 Thread Alain Veylit
Some inspiring quotes: "I once had a lute whose frets were loose, and I could play nothing, nothing but the blues ... " (Robert Johnson) "Temperaments are affairs of taste, not affairs of state." (Talleyrand, quoting Rameau quoting Aristotle's lost treatise on music). "Playing a lute with