Re: How to move the 1st course.

2003-09-30 Thread Jon Murphy
Herbert, I see you have gotten all sorts of good advice from lutenists, and I'm reluctant to put in my oar as one who has no lute. But I can speak to experience with bridges and other string anchors. (And to the problems with Pakistani instruments that I'm sure you already know - from harps to

Re: String cycles ...

2003-09-29 Thread Jon Murphy
There is a small book (pamphlet) copyright 1979 by a Rick Fogel (latest printing 1996) called Physics, Music Theory and the Hammered Dulcimer. His bibliography has several books, but he attributes most of his work in this 31 page pamphlet to Helmholtz's Sensations of Tone. Fogel's booklet is badly

Re: willow song

2003-09-29 Thread Jon Murphy
With all due respect to the members of this list who have offered sources for Shakespearean songs I have my doubts as their validity. Much of our knowledge of Shakespeare's text comes from later folios. My guess is that the actor (remember, no women on stage at the time, who played Ophelia found a

Re: Different note names (was: Baroque pitch)

2003-09-26 Thread Jon Murphy
Ooops, correction, where I said sharp I meant natural. Best, Jon - Original Message - From: Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Arto Wikla [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Doctor Oakroot [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lute Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September

Re: Baroque pitch

2003-09-25 Thread Jon Murphy
For all you younger folk, Pitch is irrelevant (except when it is grossly different). Those of us who are very senior citizens have found that middle C has dropped to about A when we go for the songs. ( And I will leave this list for a few days to spend a long weekend with my fellow dotards

Re: Different note names (was: Baroque pitch)

2003-09-25 Thread Jon Murphy
Arto, A good answer, the hexachord system (I'm not going to look up solmisation in the dictionary) is the probable source. And you correctly point out that the do,re,mi finishes with la. And I'm sure you understand the origin, but I'll take the liberty of explaining it to others. (And in the

Re: formula

2003-09-25 Thread Jon Murphy
David, by now you may have recognized me as an interloper among the lute expert, but I'll still give you some numbers from my work with harps. But first we have to make a real point of separation between the lute and other fretted instruments (yes, I know the purists fret with gut, and come to

Re: Baroque pitch

2003-09-25 Thread Jon Murphy
Note my other answer, what you hear on the lute is more obvious on the harp. Not that it is a better or purer instrument, just that there is no interference by your skills at fretting or playing the harmony. Best, Jon

Re: lute player in blocks

2003-09-25 Thread Jon Murphy
There was a mystery novel written on the topic some few years ago. The title included Crossroads, but I can't remember if it included Old Sratch. Took a quick glance in the shelves but didn't see it, will look when I get back from my trip. When I first bought a guitar (1949) the songs I learned

Re: Spam, I goofed

2003-09-24 Thread Jon Murphy
Sorry lads and ladies, I was snookered, and may have passed a rather mild virus to you all. I find the same message structure from almost everyone who has sent to me recently. (The legitimate vendors, such as Shop Irish and others, have their names attached to this message). I goofed, I opened it

Re: formula

2003-09-23 Thread Jon Murphy
David, Forget it. There are formulae for calculating string length, and there are computer programs that will do it. But as one who is designing un-fretted instruments let me give you some input. It is too late at night for me to evaulate the formula below, it might be quite correct. But I've

Newbie to the lute

2003-09-18 Thread Jon Murphy
Hi all, (and pardon the big bold type font, my computer seems to have a mind of its own) I don't yet play the lute, but I'd like to ask for your opinions. A bit of background. I'm retired and making instruments for my own use. So far a couple of harps (one cross strung diatonic and one double

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