[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto in the collection of the Conservatorio di Musica Bologna ?

2019-07-12 Thread David Van Edwards
My notes say 10 courses as 10 x 2 and I have a note for Larry Brown: "Larry Brown From the museum's description: The soundboard of this lute probably comes from another instrument of the same era and was then applied to this shell in the XVII or XVIII century, when the lute was changed into

[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto in the collection of the Conservatorio di Musica Bologna ?

2019-07-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Thanks again David, I like the gilded rose - very early eighteenth century Italian (Neapolitan even) baroque! Do you know whether the neck remnants on the floor of the case belong to this relict in its final phase or is it just a bit from some other instrument? It's a pity we

[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto in the collection of the Conservatorio di Musica Bologna ?

2019-07-12 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Both, Indeed very interesting, I hadn't regarded that one as it's in the Museum not the Music Conservatory and I didn't know the van der Meer conjecture. For info I've put a photo of the sad remnants on display up on my site at https://www.vanedwards.co.uk/Frei%20in%20bologna.htm David

[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto in the collection of the Conservatorio di Musica Bologna ?

2019-07-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Very interesting Davide, thank you. I see there's a copy of the book for sale - but at 150 Euros a bit too much for me to buy for passing interest! Does the illustration depict a lute with an extended upper peghead? - or is it just a lute with a single pegbox (either bent back or in

[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto in the collection of the Conservatorio di Musica Bologna ?

2019-07-12 Thread Martyn Hodgson
Many thanks David, I'll look further at these instruments. I also find it interesting that the engraving of an arciliuto in Dalla Casa's collection of works depicts a different instrument than the one than he is playing in his self-portrait I've also speculated before that he

[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto in the collection of the Conservatorio di Musica Bologna ?

2019-07-12 Thread Davide Rebuffa
Dear Martyn, I wrote something about it in my book on the lute history (IL LIUTO, L’Epos, Palermo, 2012, p 260): "A lute, very similar to that shown in Dalla Casa’s portrait - and not by chance preserved in Bologna (Civic Medieval Museum) - is shown in the "Table of exhibition illustrated

[LUTE] Re: Arciliuto in the collection of the Conservatorio di Musica Bologna ?

2019-07-12 Thread David Van Edwards
Dear Martyn, Maybe one of the two archlutes by Venere and Sellas in the Bologna, Museo Civico Medievale Inv. Nos 1748 and 1749? Both have been restored by the GNM in Nürnberg but it's probably the much copied little one by Sellas 640 + 1340, which I believe is in playing order. I have no