[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

It has been a while ago since "Der dritt gstraifft danntz" (Munich Ms. 1512, fol. 42v) was discussed here, but Otto Gombosi (1935, p.53) found it also in a Vienna manuscript (Nat.Bibl.Ms. 18688 fol.18v). This, of course, still does not answer Tristan's original question about the provenance of

[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

Thank you for your thoughts Roger, or might I say - Captain Obvious? :) What you describe is the data I already have, because it is in the music itself. Describing it won't answer the question though. No offense! What you say about how this flavor is created makes sense. But surely there must

[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

OK. Just had a moment to look at it. It starts off in Aeolian but at bar 11 the introduction of the Ebs moves it to Phrygian. That minor 2nd is no doubt what gives it the "exotic" flavor you are noticing. Roger Landes http://www.rogerlandes.com On 8/31/2017 1:24 AM, Tristan von Neumann wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

Thank you for that vote of confidence, Ralf!  :-) Roger Landes http://www.rogerlandes.com On 8/31/2017 3:37 AM, Ralf Mattes wrote: Am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 09:26 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: Huh? This is strange. It's clear as day French tabs for

[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

Subject: [LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512 Am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 09:26 CEST, Tristan von Neumann <tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> schrieb: > Huh? This is strange. It's clear as day French tabs for me. Probably a guitar player who never saw "real&quo

[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

Am Donnerstag, 31. August 2017 09:26 CEST, Tristan von Neumann schrieb: > Huh? This is strange. It's clear as day French tabs for me. Probably a guitar player who never saw "real" lute tablature ;-) Sarge also provides midi file for the impatient ... Cheers, Ralf

[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

Huh? This is strange. It's clear as day French tabs for me. The original is in German tabs. Are you sure your pdf reader is ok? Maybe try another one. Am 31.08.2017 um 09:12 schrieb Roger Landes: I can't open the ft3 files (what are they?) and the pdf is some weird looking tablature. Do you

[LUTE] Re: Dance Origin from Munich Ms. 1512

Oh sorry, here is one: http://gerbode.net/sources/D-Mbs_bayrische_staatsbibliothek/mus_ms_1512/ The piece is No. 48. This is one fascinating source as a whole, unique pieces, some probably very old. Some pieces are similar in Hans Neusiedler's books. But the one dance continues to baffle.