[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-02 Thread Arthur Ness
Yes both Caroso books are avaiable on the LoC site. - Original Message - From: Katherine Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Arthur Ness [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Stung Again Make that four: Caroso puplished two books, one in 1580

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-02 Thread Phalese
HI, here is a video of modern dance and elizabethan music, Holborne and nor Dowland. http://youtube.com/watch?v=4EuqQ3CI-H4 As often in these sort of things, I tend to find that the modern elements seem quite dated and something more HIP would have a bit more attitude. But if you want to get

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread Bruno Fournier
And how long have you been playing in Duluth now Ed? , frankly I think the Minnesota ballet should be ashamed of not having heard this music before Sting released it. Sting may have put Early music on the map for the general population, but it still makes me sick to my stomach that we have been

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread Roman Turovsky
And how long have you been playing in Duluth now Ed? , frankly I think the Minnesota ballet should be ashamed of not having heard this music before Sting released it. Sting may have put Early music on the map for the general population, but it still makes me sick to my stomach that we have

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread EUGENE BRAIG IV
- Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, April 1, 2007 10:46 am Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stung Again Painful it may be to some. But Sting has real Presence, and we should be grateful he used it on Dowland. i.e SOMEONE ELSE'S MATERIAL. The album

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread Edward Martin
Dear Bruno, It is good to hear from you. In terms of recognition, the lute world, or early music on the whole, is a small part of the field of the classical arts, including drama, dance or the visual arts. In my small town (population of around 100,000), there are many arts organizations,

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread Herbert Ward
It will be a modern dance, with music of Dowland. To what degree are the historical dances preserved? For example, if the ballet company wanted to stage an authentic reproduction, what resources would be available? To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread Edward Martin
I think that the dances will not preserve aspects of the authentic dance. ed At 01:39 PM 4/1/2007 -0500, Herbert Ward wrote: It will be a modern dance, with music of Dowland. To what degree are the historical dances preserved? For example, if the ballet company wanted to stage an authentic

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread Ed Durbrow
Around Dowland's time there were at least three major treatises on dance: Coroso, Negri, Arbeau, the first two written in lute tab with mensural notation for melodies and often bass lines. They explain how to do the steps and lay out whole dances set to specific music. The dances and steps

[LUTE] Re: Stung Again

2007-04-01 Thread Arthur Ness
list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stung Again Around Dowland's time there were at least three major treatises on dance: Coroso, Negri, Arbeau, the first two written in lute tab with mensural notation for melodies and often bass lines

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-31 Thread Shaun Ng
Dear All, I've read so much about this, I thought I might just contribute a little. As a rather prudish viol and theorbo player, who's very much into authenticity and finding out the truth in music (if ever such thing exists), I find Sting's attempt in Dowland really enjoyable

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-31 Thread Ron Andrico
] To: gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [LUTE] Re: Stung again Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:56:12 -0400 On Mar 30, 2007, at 6:41 AM, gary digman wrote: My point is not that he is good, in your girlfriend's sense

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread gary digman
My point is not that he is good, in your girlfriend's sense of the term, but that he is popular, more popular than your girlfriend or I will ever be, and he is using that popularity to introduce a wider audience to the lute which is what so many on this list say they want. Gary -

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread chriswilke
Dear all, I heard a report last week that classical music was the genre with the single largest increase in sales over all styles last year: up 22%. This was largely due to two performers: the ever-popular Andrea Bocelli and Sting. Chris --- gary digman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 30, 2007, at 6:41 AM, gary digman wrote: My point is not that he is good, in your girlfriend's sense of the term, but that he is popular, more popular than your girlfriend or I will ever be, and he is using that popularity to introduce a wider audience to the lute which is what

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread David Rastall
On Mar 30, 2007, at 3:57 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Which empress??? You mean there's more than one? Yesterday I taught 2 classes of 19-year olds at NYU, invited by a poet-friend who teaches a History of Culture course which touches on the mystification as a literary vehicle.

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread Roman Turovsky
Which empress??? You mean there's more than one? I didn't know any. Yesterday I taught 2 classes of 19-year olds at NYU, invited by a poet-friend who teaches a History of Culture course which touches on the mystification as a literary vehicle. Interesting. When I was in graduate

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread bill kilpatrick
empress of all flowers ... i fear david may be right in that the preconcieved notions people carry with them can sometimes make it .. the thing itself - seem unrecognizable. can too much information be just as dangerous (in a tree for the forest situation) as too little? --- David Rastall

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread Roman Turovsky
My point is not that he is good, in your girlfriend's sense of the term, but that he is popular, more popular than your girlfriend or I will ever be, and he is using that popularity to introduce a wider audience to the lute which is what so many on this list say they want. It's certainly

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread Roman Turovsky
empress of all flowers ... i fear david may be right in that the preconcieved notions people carry with them can sometimes make it .. the thing itself - seem unrecognizable. can too much information be just as dangerous (in a tree for the forest situation) as too little? Absolutely, for

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread bill kilpatrick
empress of all flowers ... i fear david may be right in that the preconcieved notions people carry with them can sometimes make it .. the thing itself - seem unrecognizable. can too much information be just as dangerous (in a tree for the forest situation) as too little? --- David Rastall

[LUTE] Re: Stung again

2007-03-30 Thread bill kilpatrick
--- David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because you play that thing that Sting plays. Ho! Ho! Just kidding. Seriously, we're all mystified by Sting's success. i'm mystified as well but more for the baggage that a talented, soulful, so-called pop artist is obliged to carry with him