[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-06 Thread Daniel Winheld
interchangeable fingerboards for different temperaments- and there is an Iranian guitarist (forget her name) who has jusdiciously placed tastini on her guitar for Persian microtonal work. Lily Afshar? YES. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-06 Thread Arthur Ness
PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings At 06:03 PM 11/4/2007, Daniel Winheld wrote: Not all guitarists are harmonic bone heads. This guy has guitars with interchangeable fingerboards for different temperaments

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-06 Thread Arthur Ness
PROTECTED]; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings At 06:03 PM 11/4/2007, Daniel Winheld wrote: Not all guitarists are harmonic bone heads. This guy has guitars with interchangeable fingerboards for different temperaments

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 05:50 PM 11/4/2007, vance wood wrote: You cannot argue with a Guitar player about fixed metal frets, especially if their only exposure to the Lute is at a distance. They have to have first hand experience with gut frets and the fineness of the sound before they start to grasp the

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-05 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 06:03 PM 11/4/2007, Daniel Winheld wrote: Not all guitarists are harmonic bone heads. This guy has guitars with interchangeable fingerboards for different temperaments- and there is an Iranian guitarist (forget her name) who has jusdiciously placed tastini on her guitar for Persian microtonal

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Anthony Hind
Taco I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a difficult situation for string makers and lute makers whenever they communicate, it could be considered that indirectly they are trying to sell their wares. Also,

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Winheld
I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a difficult situation for string makers and lute makers whenever they communicate, it could be considered that indirectly they are trying to sell their wares. Couple of

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Alan Hoyle
Message - From: Daniel Winheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear to be advertising his wares on this list

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Sean Smith
, November 04, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a difficult situation for string makers and lute makers whenever they communicate, it could be considered

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Winheld
stick something close tothe 7th fret... Alan - Original Message - From: Daniel Winheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread Narada
he called the 'plastic frets' that we lutenists use. -Original Message- From: Alan Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 November 2007 19:43 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Daniel Winheld Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings For what it's worth... Perhaps the difference is that we

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Anthony Hind
Message - From: Daniel Winheld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a difficult

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Edward Martin
] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings I think Mimmo Peruffo may not reply because he may not want to appear to be advertising his wares on this list. It is a difficult situation for string makers and lute makers

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings /Re: marker at 7th fret

2007-11-04 Thread Daniel Winheld
Top of the afternoon to you too, Ed- Not against markers, just don't like the appearance. On my 72 cm. 8 course, (that's a LONG highway for these old fingers) Barber put a very discreet little white dot at the seventh, on the neck near the neck/fingerboard junction, worked very well anytime I

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread vance wood
different temperament, that's like having that discussion with a piano player. - Original Message - From: Narada [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Alan Hoyle' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Lute List' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-03 Thread Anthony Hind
I don't think the sound of carbon is that great even when treated with a bit of sanding, but I use them when I play under high intensity spotlights, which is I'm afraid where most of the concerts are these dayslights and A/C. There is nothing as good as gut, especially for the ornaments. dt

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-03 Thread Edward Martin
At 01:42 PM 11/3/2007 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote: Also he mentions the question of the octaves on the lower courses having been historically about half the tension of the basses themselves. 6. Octave strings: the modern tendency is to apply a noticeably lower tension than on their respective

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Le 3 nov. 07 à 14:08, Edward Martin a écrit : At 01:42 PM 11/3/2007 +0100, Anthony Hind wrote: Also he mentions the question of the octaves on the lower courses having been historically about half the tension of the basses themselves. 6. Octave strings: the modern tendency is to apply a

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-03 Thread Edward Martin
Why would you want a thinner Pistoy? If you want that, it would be best, in my opinion, to also lower the octave tension play overall with light tension. In my experience, to merely put on a smaller diameter Pistoy, or other plain gut, would not sound any brighter. ed At 02:37 PM

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Actually, I also wonder whether the arguments for low tension stringing (Satoh) are not similar to those in favour of loaded strings (MP). Both argue in relation to small historic lute holes. The main difference is that MP argues also from the colour of the strings in paintings. Another

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-03 Thread Taco Walstra
Dear all, just a new work on the lute historical stringings: http://www.aquilacorde.com/lutes.htm Maybe it help to open some new excange of ideas... Ciao Mimmo Interesting article and I'm very much interested in the new production of the loaded gut strings even after yesterdays

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-03 Thread Anthony Hind
Taco It would be better, if Mimmo Peruffo would answer this, and perhaps he will. However, I heard them and saw them on Mimmo Peruffo's bass lute, through Skype, and as far as I could hear and see in such a context they did seem good. I have an M-Audio Transit plus JBL on Tour speakers

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-02 Thread Anthony Hind
Dear All After reading Mimmo Peruffo's interesting article, I find that it explains an improvement, I obtained by changing my stringing, in an experiment I described at http://tinyurl.com/2husza. I would like to discuss various points raised by MP in the light of my experiment, but I do

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-02 Thread David Tayler
I don't think the sound of carbon is that great even when treated with a bit opf sanding, but I use them when I play under high intensity spotlights, which is I'm afraid where most of the concerts are these dayslights and A/C. There is nothing as good as gut, especially for the ornaments.