[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-19 Thread demery
On Wed, Mar 15, 2006, Tony Chalkley [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 2) Bowed instruments have distinct up and down stroke instructions in the music - push and pull for the gamba. This does not mean that the pull stroke is intrinsically weaker - in fact I was told that it should be as strong, just

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread bill kilpatrick
the only other reference i've come across, in regards to the subject of plectrum and lutes, is joseph baldassare's article in the april 2004 issue of lute news, entitled playing the lute in medieval europe. as i'm too cheap to subscribe to the lute society and therefore miss out on receiving

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread Tony Chalkley
known which is the stronger movement for the violin... Tony - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'lute list' lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: 'medieval lute' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:19 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread David Rastall
Hi Rob, On Mar 15, 2006, at 2:56 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: I agree, but I was referring to alternation of strong and weak fingers. Most classical guitarists spend years ironing out the natural inequalities of finger strength. They then have to deliberately manufacture inequalities.

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread Howard Posner
Tony Chalkley wrote: 2) Bowed instruments have distinct up and down stroke instructions in the music - push and pull for the gamba. This does not mean that the pull stroke is intrinsically weaker - in fact I was told that it should be as strong, just in case of a mix up - it just sounds

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
At 10:31 AM 3/15/2006, Paul Pleijsier wrote: The Early Romantic Guitar enthusiasts have my vote: they seem to be trying to bring a more natural (less manufactured...?) approach to their realizations of the 19th-century repertoire. ?? I find that these players are mostly modern players,

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread guy_and_liz Smith
bow is typically more towards the tip, with less leverage and a distinctly lighter sound. Guy - Original Message - From: Howard Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:40 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum Tony

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-15 Thread David Rastall
As long as we have an early guitar list, let's continue on that list... On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:31 AM, Paul Pleijsier wrote: The Early Romantic Guitar enthusiasts have my vote: they seem to be trying to bring a more natural (less manufactured...?) approach to their realizations of the

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-14 Thread Rob MacKillop
Sorry, Bill, but I think having upstrokes as strong as downstrokes is unspeakably unmusical! :-) It is what makes classical guitar technique unlistenable. Inequality of stress is in the music, and the best way to articulate it is to match it with the natural inequality in the technique of down

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-14 Thread Rob MacKillop
Sorry, Bill, but I think having upstrokes as strong as downstrokes is unspeakably unmusical! :-) It is what makes classical guitar technique unlistenable. Inequality of stress is in the music, and the best way to articulate it is to match it with the natural inequality in the technique of down

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-14 Thread bill kilpatrick
i don't know how unspeakable or unmusical it is but it certainly is difficult - for me - to do. it's also just one of several techniques offered by a jazz musician who would, i imagine, find it useful at times when winging it. if i understand your lully reference correctly it's to say that his

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-14 Thread Rob MacKillop
What about the last part of Bill's sentence?: where it says that one should be able to control the strokes with a pick, whether they are up or down. He's right, as you should know from playing jazz guitar. There are quite a few different techniques for jazz guitar, and I certainly don't

[LUTE] Re: right hand technique - plectrum

2006-03-14 Thread Rob MacKillop
What about the last part of Bill's sentence?: where it says that one should be able to control the strokes with a pick, whether they are up or down. He's right, as you should know from playing jazz guitar. There are quite a few different techniques for jazz guitar, and I certainly don't