I posted this to the lutening group but thought it wouldn't hurt to try
   here, also.

   Hello everyone,

   I have what is probably a newbie question. I am unable to tune the 5th,
   6th, and to a lesser degree the 7th and 8th courses to my satisfaction.
   When tuned so that the octaves have no beats between the two strings,
   the strings are out of tune when fretted. The octave course is
   invariably sharp, or at least sharp enough to drive me batty (although
   there are those who would argue that it's a drive...more like a putt).

   My ears are pretty good to within 5 cents of a tone.

   I've tried lowering the fundamental by a few cents, but it doesn't seem
   to help until the the two strings of a course are out of tune when
   open.

   Help!!! (please)
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   Sincerely,
   Tom

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