Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-19 Thread Ronn McFarlane
Dear Alain, The Baltimore Consort did not have that story specifically in mind when we chose to arrange Cold and Raw with Custer LaRue singing. We thought more generally, that there is so much 17th century gender-bending where singer's roles are concerned, that it fit into the spirit of the

Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-19 Thread Alain Veylit
Hi Ronn, Many thanks for that very interesting piece of information - that shows how tricky it is to interpret bits of contemporary information, and even more so when the information comes from the fairly distant past. But perhaps, it is more important to try and establish the connection

Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-19 Thread Greg M. Silverman
Ronn McFarlane wrote: Dear Alain, The Baltimore Consort did not have that story specifically in mind when we chose to arrange Cold and Raw with Custer LaRue singing. We thought more generally, that there is so much 17th century gender-bending where singer's roles are concerned, that it fit

Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-19 Thread Howard Posner
Greg M. Silverman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If indeed Mr. Purcell was offended that Queen Mary preferred a vulgar ballad to one of his refined tunes, he had a lot of nerve, since he was the author of many a vulgar ballad himself I think Hawkins meant vulgar in the sense of common or of the

Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-19 Thread Alain Veylit
BTW, is there something actually Scottish about cold raw? It was originally published (I think) as a new Scots song - Is it a falsely popular (i.e. written by an educated, professional musician possibly employed by the court or the church), falsely scottish ballad? I am thinking about the way

Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-19 Thread Nancy Carlin
I think we need to avoid overlaying our modern ideas on popular music=20 version serious classical music. It seems to me there was more continuity= =20 between the styles in the 16th and 17th centuries with pieces being quoted= =20 back and forth. A lot of late 20th Century comparmentalization

Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-19 Thread Jon Murphy
Combining a few in this thread. I was brought up on Scots folk music, and have an old recording of Ewan McColl doing drinking songs of many years ago. The Wind blew the Bonny Lassie's Plaidie Awa' , and many others. I don't know their age, perhaps they are recent music hall songs masquerading as

Re: Cold and Raw (was Life, the universe...)

2004-03-15 Thread Alain Veylit
Howard, Thanks for the nice story. Maybe I was too quick on the historically correct trigger. The song may have been sung also by castrati with cruel humorous effects, etc. in its 40 or 50 years existence. And it's all too easy to get reductive and apply our own stereotypes to the past. Do you