Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2004-01-02 Thread G.R. Crona
Michael, I think, putting gutfrets on an Oud would (in spite of its narrow neck) make it a superb melody instrument, with or without plectrum. B.R. Göran The music is less melodic than it is percussive. The 'oud players show some real virtuosity in these pieces. I was never to find

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2004-01-02 Thread Roman Turovsky
Michael, I think, putting gutfrets on an Oud would (in spite of its narrow neck) make it a superb melody instrument, with or without plectrum. B.R. Göran Especially considering that ouds were fretted originally. RT The music is less melodic than it is percussive. The 'oud players show

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-31 Thread Stephan Olbertz
Dear Thomas, I'm very sorry about what you wrote and that the German lute society lost an active member. However, I cannot see any personal attack in the mail you quoted. I don't know either if it is good to post such personal things to the list. Personal feuds in public are always a bit

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-31 Thread Michael Rodick
Dear Stephan and list: Unfortunately, some people take any disagreement with their point of view as a personal attack and react vigorously to that. I just joined this list a few days ago, but I've been on several music lists in the past, and the same things happen. We musicians often have

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-31 Thread KennethBeLute
In a message dated 12/31/03 6:41 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, if you are ever in Yemen, and invited to a wedding, make sure you go because you may hear some very interesting music being played on the 'oud. Thanks for the tip, Titan. I will have to remember this next time I'm in Yemen and

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Jon Murphy
Thomas, A serious question, the matter of the attribution of the Gregorian chant. And I certainly sympathise with Sebnem Yavuz who searched all of this information even during her seven year labor ( I do hope the baby was well, although that is a rather long gestation, by an order of magnitude,

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon, read it again and, if you got one, compare it with what your textbook has to say. It's a storm in a teapot, blended with some misinfomation. Seems like a x-mas joke. Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: A serious question, the matter of the attribution of the Gregorian chant. And I

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread G.R. Crona
Dear Thomas, TXS for forwarding an interesting read! Not least, because Boethius (although mainly a christian philosopher) STHB so influential way into the late Renaissance. Both Santa Maria and Galilei mention him repeatedly in their treatises. FWIW, EB has a few entries about his musical

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Thomas Schall
For those who can read german: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/1/0,1872,2084833,00.html and http://www.gregorianik-forschung.de/downloads/ksta-030625-b.pdf http://www.gregorianik-forschung.de/institut.htm Best wishes Thomas Am Die, 2003-12-30 um 12.54 schrieb G.R. Crona: Dear Thomas, TXS

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/1/0,1872,2084833,00.html http://www.gregorianik-forschung.de/downloads/ksta-030625-b.pdf http://www.gregorianik-forschung.de/institut.htm founding a new institute in order to spread

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Roman Turovsky
theories -- that's what they call revisionism, isn't it. I'm curious if and how _serious_ researchers will answer. But in general, I think no answer is needed because Mrs Yavuz' theses are pure guesswork. We have to thankful she didn't ascribe the chants to some Ildegardia of

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Jerzy ZAK
Dear Thomas, I passed your news of the Cologne musicologist Sebnem Yavuz about the Gregorian chant to my wife who is a theologian. Here I summerise what she told me - rather surprised by the ''discovery'' of facts that are well known ''in the profession'' since long. ''The Gregorian chant is

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Thomas Schall
Dear Jerzy, thank you and your wife very much for the information. I already knew the gregorian chant wasn't developed by Gregor but a connection to Boethius was new to me. If this is already known my prejudices about german TV in general (and it's relation to culture in special) is confirmed

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Jerzy ZAK
Dear Thomas and Mathias, Unfortunately massmedia prey on topics like 'Jesus, Qumran und der Vatican' or 'Verschlußsache Jesus' - the books, however not easy to read, were bestsellers in Germany for years in early 90's, you may remember that. There is a market for stories like 'good Boethius

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi, I wonder about the frustration, anger and hatred which I can detect in this mail. Interesting to read such things from a pastor. Nobody doubts the bible nor is it guesswork what this musicologist wrote. Maybe her theories should be taken cum grano salis and I've learnt that most of it is

OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-29 Thread Thomas Schall
Hi, this was posted at the orpheo group and I thought it could be - although clearly off topic - of some interest for the one or the other. Best wishes Thomas Hello Everyone, I decided to stop lurking and actually post something (sorry for the cross posting). I was surfing the net today and