Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-21 Thread Roman Turovsky
This one is still in storage. Stuart described a French one. RT __ Roman M. Turovsky http://polyhymnion.org/swv Last I knew, the English guitar in question was not on the floor, but in the archived collection. Did you go behind the scenes while at the Met or is the piece now on

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-21 Thread Roman Turovsky
I thought the instrument might be what J. Carpentier, writing in the 1770s, calls a Œcythre en luth¹. Cythres were normally wire-strung, with the top four doubled but Carpentier also mentions gut-strung, lute-shaped ones too. These French instruments were normally tuned in A and so have a

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Sorry, I'm not a luthier. Still, I'd wager the eBay piece is an oddly shaped, early 20th-c. German wandervogel guitar-lute. The decor and tuning machines coincide perfectly with such things. While uncommon, English guitars with a multi-ribbed, bowl-shaped back did occur. The Met in NYC has

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-20 Thread Steve Ramey
Alain, The instrument is often called a Waldlaute; sometimes a Wanderlaute; and frequently, a lutar or guitar-lute. This list has featured fairly thorough discussions of them within the past year or so. Sorry, I can't quote dates. Apparently, they were associated with the Wandervogel

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-20 Thread Eugene C. Braig IV
Last I knew, the English guitar in question was not on the floor, but in the archived collection. Did you go behind the scenes while at the Met or is the piece now on the display floor? The piece to which I was referring has a tortoise fingerboard edged in engraved mother of pearl with a

Re: Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-20 Thread s.walsh
Sorry, I'm not a luthier. Still, I'd wager the eBay piece is an oddly shaped, early 20th-c. German wandervogel guitar-lute. The decor and tuning machines coincide perfectly with such things. While uncommon, English guitars with a multi-ribbed, bowl-shaped back did occur. The Met in

Re: Dalza - Perhaps of interest

2004-09-17 Thread Ed Durbrow
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Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-16 Thread Arne Keller
At 23:03 14-09-2004 -0400, Roman Turovsky wrote: As I say, I managed that in two weeks. I have been playing the lute for=20 around a year now, and still cannot read lute music as I can other music, th= ough of=20 and so on. And then: The composer has already figured out the most logical and

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-16 Thread Vance Wood
] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 11:38 AM Subject: Re: Perhaps of interest At 23:03 14-09-2004 -0400, Roman Turovsky wrote: As I say, I managed that in two weeks. I have been playing the lute for=20 around a year now, and still cannot read lute music as I can other music, th= ough

DALZA - Perhaps of interest

2004-09-16 Thread Ed Durbrow
At 10:22 AM +0900 9/17/04, Vance Wood: However in some situations where there seems to be a more logical way of playing a particular passage the more difficult fingering is not just to show off but to take advantage of how the notes play in that register or, and more importantly, sometimes they

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-15 Thread Jon Murphy
I find myself in agreement with RT (cheers and huzzahs are heard in the background). Not that I can comprehend his esoterica entirely. Like Vance I come from guitar (but I'm afraid my guitar wasn't classical but more country finger pickin'). In my short eight months with the lute and tabulature

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-15 Thread Roman Turovsky
I have no idea what Boulezics are, Lucky man... RT

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-15 Thread G.R. Crona
I can vouch for Milan / Spanish tab to be really easy to be able to hear unplayingly! G. R. - Opprinnelig melding - Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 14. september 2004 14:02 Emne: Perhaps of interest | | Dear all, | | I once more wondered about tablature

Perhaps of interest

2004-09-14 Thread RichardTomBeck
Dear all, I once more wondered about tablature, and this is the priavte exchange of=20 letters Vance and I had. Perhaps it will interest the 'Collected Wisdom', pe= rhaps=20 not, but I thought I'd post it anyway. Cheers Tom

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
As I say, I managed that in two weeks. I have been playing the lute for=20 around a year now, and still cannot read lute music as I can other music, th= ough of=20 course I'm getting to recognise clich=C3=A9s, patterns, scales and the like and have an idea how they should sound. But it's

Re: Perhaps of interest

2004-09-14 Thread Roman Turovsky
As I say, I managed that in two weeks. I have been playing the lute for=20 around a year now, and still cannot read lute music as I can other music, th= ough of=20 course I'm getting to recognise clich=C3=A9s, patterns, scales and the like and have an idea how they should sound. But it's