Martin,
We seem to have said a similar thing at about the same time, I saw your
message after I sent mine, and I'm sure you did the same. You expressed it
more briefly, and probably better. I do tend to ramble on on the topic based
on my BA in Psych from 1957, which gives me no more knowledge than
> You're confusing Steinbeck's tales told about two idiots, if I can
> paraphrase Shakespeare. Lenny in "Of Mice and Men" has enormous physical
> strength. The ursine Johnny Bear in "The Voice of Johnny Bear" can
> reproduce overheard conversations, exactly imitating the speakers' voices.
And t
s more to recall. We are good, but Google we
ain't.
Best, Jon
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From: "Arthur Ness (boston)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LUTE NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2003 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: The cost of lute music
> Hello
. The Columbus catalogue is
p=ublished in an article by Catherine Weeks Chapman in Journal of the
American Musicological Society 21 (1968): 34-84.
I don't know if this gets us any nearer establishing the "cost of lute
music" back then.
arthur.
Arthur Ness (boston) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> There's an
> idiot savant in one of Steinbeck's short stories, Oh yes. Of Mice and Men.
> Wasn't he called "Bear"?
You're confusing Steinbeck's tales told about two idiots, if I can
paraphrase Shakespeare. Lenny in "Of Mice and Men" has enormou
- Original Message -
From: Stewart McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Lute Net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 15 October 2003 00:17
Subject: The cost of lute music
> "Boone was musical successor to the dichotic phenomenon Blind Tom,
> who, though said to be semi-idi
Hello Rainer,
Sorry, I'm just a layman. But I know the feeling. Sometimes I just can't
resist too.
Dr. K. told me how he made the calculations in his head. So unlike others
who can do such things without thinking, he had trained himself. It was a
matter of adding and subtracting numbers from
Another comparison:
A Russian nanny in NYC for a week costs 50 sheets of cheapish printmaking
paper.
A Polish nanny costs 70.
A Trinidadian nanny with a Green Card costs 100+.
RT
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Roman M. Turovsky
http://turovsky.org
http://polyhymnion.org
> Roman commented:
>> I once looked >>
Arthur Ness (boston) wrote:
snip
>
> There are some remarkable musical minds. One was a colleague from Holland,
> a Dr. K. He had a photographic memory and perfect pitch, and was somewhat
> of a whiz at mathematics (he could add up 30 or 40 numbers in a few
> seconds, and then give the average)
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From: "Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stewart McCoy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: The cost of lute music
> Stewart McCoy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have read (if I re
Patrick wrote
<>><<>I was thinking this question of what lute music may have cost in past
is somewhat accademic. If I am not mistaken, people could remember a lot
more than they care to now. Not that we cannot, it is just that we do not
have to. There was a program with James Burke (Connections
Roman commented:
>>> >> I once looked >> into the price of high quality paper in 16th
century Augsburg, paper of the >> kind one would use to copy lute music. A
ream of folio sized paper (about >> 9x12) in Augsburg cost the equivalent
of a kitchen servant's monthly >> salary. Today a ream of hi
Patrick H wrote:
>
> So, is it not possible that many musicians just watched someone play a
> piece, and could then remember it?
>
Outside of overly academic classical (in the broad sense) music, that's
almost exactly how we do it. Only difference is we listen to someone play
it :o)
--
Rough
>> I once looked
>> into the price of high quality paper in 16th century Augsburg, paper of the
>> kind one would use to copy lute music. A ream of folio sized paper (about
>> 9x12) in Augsburg cost the equivalent of a kitchen servant's monthly
>> salary. Today a ream of highest quality paper cou
Patrick H at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So, is it not possible that many musicians just watched someone play a piece,
> and could then remember it?
Possible, but not likely. How much of a Dowland fantasy could you play back
after seeing it once? Could you play it back reliably if your memory we
Arthur Ness writes:
> I once looked
> into the price of high quality paper in 16th century Augsburg, paper of the
> kind one would use to copy lute music. A ream of folio sized paper (about
> 9x12) in Augsburg cost the equivalent of a kitchen servant's monthly
> salary. Today a ream of highest q
read, that it is tempting not to make the
effort to memorise a piece of lute music.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
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From: "Patrick H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lute List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject
Dear Arthur,
Please could you tell us which manuscript you have in mind.
Best wishes,
Stewart McCoy.
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From: "Arthur Ness (boston)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "LUTE NET" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 6:18 PM
Sub
boy
or
a cleaner ( woman) earned 6 soldi a day, an adult ( man) about 10-15 soldi
a
day according to the kind of job ( ="mestiere " -craft). I don't know about
Rome, but according to this the cost of lute music described was equivalent
to two days work of a craftsman.
Before Gutemb
>I think if one were to investigate the price of score in the 16th century,
>you would find that their high price made them accessible only to wealthy
>persons.
Just wanted to echo Arthur's comment above. I was recently rereading
Gustavson's dissertation on Formschneider (Nuremburg) and was supr
I was thinking this question of what lute music may have cost in past is somewhat
accademic. If I am not mistaken, people could remember a lot more than they care to
now. Not that we cannot, it is just that we do not have to. There was a program with
James Burke (Connections or one of those)
I think if one were to investigate the price of score in the 16th century,
you would find that their high price made them accessible only to wealthy
persons. (And many professional lutenists were wealthy.) I once looked
into the price of high quality paper in 16th century Augsburg, paper of the
ki
ot;), although it sounds
a
bit old fashioned. The reason is that being of copper the value of the coin
was not high.
Donatella
http://spazioinwind.libero.it/donatella_galletti/index.htm
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From: "Howard Posner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "lute net"
> Yes, I know of all of these places and they're wonderful. But, there is
> nothing
> quite like http://www.sourceforge.net which is a place to find free/shareware
> software that is being written by groups all over the world. The current
> approach in the lute community is analagous to the "lute b
Yes, I know of all of these places and they're wonderful. But, there is nothing
quite like http://www.sourceforge.net which is a place to find free/shareware
software that is being written by groups all over the world. The current
approach in the lute community is analagous to the "lute book" appro
Denys Stephens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> "Costo en Roma 110 quatrines por Setiembre de 1512."
>
> I am neither a linguist nor a numismatist, but I guess this refers to
> the cost of the book? Can anyone throw any light on what this means,
> and if it is the cost, how it relates to the present
> Of course my homepage :-)
I can offer space too, if needed. I am working on a page for Gabriel
Schebor's collection of vihuela songs, we could house them together.
RT
Don't forget to join Lute-Ring.
> just an offer! And I would contact Albert Reyermann of Tree editions
> for a printed version.
> Of course my homepage :-)
I can offer space too, if needed. I am working on a page for Gabriel
Schebor's collection of vihuela songs, we could house them together.
RT
Don't forget to join Lute-Ring.
> just an offer! And I would contact Albert Reyermann of Tree editions
> for a printed version.
I'll add in a couple of months couple of vihuela songs in which I've been
working. You can tell me what's the best place for them to be.
Best,
A
> At 13:28 12-10-2003 -0400, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>>> I've wondered if it would be possible to make a shareware style
> repository of
>>> lute tab files such that they could be downloaded and used for free. A
>>> donation
>>> could be made to the compiler/editor/composer via a simple PayPal
> inte
At 13:28 12-10-2003 -0400, Roman Turovsky wrote:
>> I've wondered if it would be possible to make a shareware style
repository of
>> lute tab files such that they could be downloaded and used for free. A
>> donation
>> could be made to the compiler/editor/composer via a simple PayPal
interface.
>Th
At 11:52 AM 10/12/2003 +0100, Denys Stephens
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Costo en Roma 110 quatrines por Setiembre de 1512."
>
>I am neither a linguist nor a numismatist, but I guess this refers to
>the cost of the book? Can anyone throw any light on what this means,
>and if it is the cost, how i
> I've wondered if it would be possible to make a shareware style repository of
> lute tab files such that they could be downloaded and used for free. A
> donation
> could be made to the compiler/editor/composer via a simple PayPal interface.
There are places on the web that do just that: Alain Vey
> I've wondered if it would be possible to make a shareware style
> repository of lute tab files such that they could be downloaded and used
> for free.
Of course, there already is Wayne's very useful collection at
http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/tab-serv/tab-serv.cgi
GJC
Denys Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear All,
> Recent mailings to the list have set me thinking about the cost of lute =
> music.
> In my experience it's always been expensive - my copy of Diana Poulton's
> Dowland edition cost the equivalent of my two weeks wa
Dear All,
Recent mailings to the list have set me thinking about the cost of lute =
music.
In my experience it's always been expensive - my copy of Diana Poulton's
Dowland edition cost the equivalent of my two weeks wages when it was
published. I didn't resent it at the time - it wa
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