[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Personally I first learned modern guitar tablature, switched to French tab on the lute, then learned Italian tablature, and finally wrote a piece of software to convert Neapolitan tab to Spanish, Italian and/or French. And how great that you did Alain! I'm sure,

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Alain Veylit
Many thanks Goran for your kind words. Tablature is insufficiently recognized as the first form of computer code: converting music to numbers was done long before DVDs came about, after all. I am really glad though that tablature never made it to the compression stage... Although you could

[LUTE] Neapolitan tablature (Was: Da Milano)

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Back to the Sultzbach prints. I can't help to notice, that vol. 1 (italian tab) has only the playing instructions in italian, also printed in vol 2, while vol. 2 (neapolitan tab) has two additional dedications in latin. Both volumes have a latin end page, quoting the spanish king

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
Yes, we definitely are !!! ;-) Jean-Marie -- > I'm sure, we are ALL extremely thankful for your gargantuan work with > tablature conversion! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread Alain Veylit
If I recall correctly, Neapolitan tablature is similar to Spanish but fret numbers start with 1 instead of zero - i.e. an empty string is notated 1. I think French tablature won out for the lute because it is much easier to notate diapasons in that system - as opposed to Italian tab. Modern

[LUTE] Roman Turovsky - Tombeau de Walerian Lukasinski - Maciej Konczak (baroque lute)

2018-12-11 Thread r . turovsky
> > For your perusal and enlightenment/delectation: > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkgCITuz4pM > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walerian_%C5%81ukasi%C5%84ski > > http://www.polyhymnion.org/tombeau/tombeaux/s/tombeau-lukasinski.pdf > > Enjoy! > Amities, > RT > To get on

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Thanks Ron, for reminding me of Coelho's site. There is SO much erudite and relevant material there! G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread r . turovsky
What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora potentes. > On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:11 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: > > Modern tablatures appear to be a substitute > for reading music

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Martin Shepherd
..and in German tablature :) On 11/12/2018 20:33, Arto Wikla wrote: I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Jean-Marie Poirier
..only after a couple of schnaps ! :-) Jean-Marie -- >..and in German tablature :) To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Tablature

2018-12-11 Thread Arto Wikla
I thought every serious lutenist can sing the tabulature lines. sincerely Arto On 11/12/18 21:25, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote: What about those of us who compose in tabulature? I also know a few people who can sing off the tab. RT http://turovsky.org Feci quod potui. Faciant meliora

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Found book 1 and It corresponds to Gerbode's facsimile. So, is volume 2 of Sulzbach the only print we have of neapolitan tab? G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Dear All, I'm looking for the two books in Neapolitan tab from 1536 Intavolatura de viola o vero lauto cio e Recercate, Canzone Francese, Motette, composto per lo Eccelente & Unico musico Francesco Milanese, non mai piu stampata Libro primo (secondo) della Fortuna, Naples 1536

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
I see now, that book 2 on Gerbode's site is effectively in neapolitan tab. What about book 1? G. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread Matthew Daillie
I would suggest reading Dinko Fabris's article 'The Origin of Italian Lute Tablature', if you can find it (it was published in in 2001 in Basler Jahrbuch für Historische Musikpraxis)! There are two lute pieces in Neapolitan tabulature in the Pesaro manuscript Ms. 1144 but that doesn't answer

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Thanks for the info Matthew, I doubt that I'll find that article though :) I find it interesting though, that only one print in neapolitan tab, and one in spanish tab (Milán) survives, while today's guitar scene has been completely inundated with spanish tab while the lute world

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread Christopher Stetson
Hi, all. In re: G. C.'s comment, "today's guitar scene has been completely inundated with spanish tab while the lute world seems to favour french tablature." It's a matter of notational history. Historically today's guitar tab has nothing to do with 16th century vihuela

[LUTE] Re: Da Milano

2018-12-11 Thread G. C.
Hi Christopher, you wrote: modern guitar tab basically derives from the system devised for Hawaiian slide guitar music around 1915. So they just reinvented it almost 400 years later? Yes, that sounds reasonable. G. -- To get on or off this list see list

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Roman Turovsky - Tombeau de Walerian Lukasinski - Maciej Konczak (baroque lute) - YouTube

2018-12-11 Thread Roman Turovsky
For your perusal and enlightenment/delectation: [1]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkgCITuz4pM [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walerian_%C5%81ukasi%C5%84ski [3]http://www.polyhymnion.org/tombeau/tombeaux/s/tombeau-lukasinski.pdf Enjoy! Amities, RT -- References 1.