[LUTE] 'Privé de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626.

2014-05-07 Thread Rob MacKillop
Can anyone send me, or direct me to, a copy of one song: 'Privé de duex beaux 
yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626? Much obliged.

Rob MacKillop

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[LUTE] Re: 'Privé de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626.

2014-05-07 Thread Rob MacKillop
   Ah, it says Courante de Gaultier - don't know why I couldn't see that
   before.

   Rob
   [1]www.robmackillop.net

   On 7 May 2014, at 16:23, Peter Steur [2]p.st...@inrim.it wrote:

   Hi Rob,

   I just happen to have a copy of this song in the Kremsmuenster
   manuscript L81, it's the Courante at the top. Hope this helps.

   Peter



   ---Messaggio originale---

   Da: [3]Rob MacKillop
   Data: 07/05/2014 17:09:27
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   Oggetto: [LUTE] 'Prive de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of
   1626.

   Can anyone send me, or direct me to, a copy of one song: 'Prive de duex
   beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626? Much obliged.

   Rob MacKillop

   [5]www.robmackillop.net



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[LUTE] Re: Re: 'Privé de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626.

2014-05-07 Thread Rob MacKillop
   Just to clear up a little confusion...Peter Steur send a reference to
   it in Kremsmunster L81, and I hit Reply To All, but it never reached
   the Lute List. This is what I said:
   Thanks for theA KremsmA 1/4nster reference, Peter. I can see it on
   Scribd, but I can't make out the text, or even the second part of the
   title. Can you help with that?
   I know the piece as the untitled Courante and Double (as it has become
   known) from the Panmure 5 manuscript, in harp-sharp tuning. And there
   is a version for viol in a manuscript in Manchester. But today I
   learned it is also the song in Ballard's edition of 1626 (not a lute
   book, I am told).A
   So, I'd dearly love to see the song version, but any other version such
   as theA KremsmA 1/4nster would be of great interest too. It's such a
   beautiful piece.A
   Thanks again, Peter.
   Rob

   On 7 May 2014 16:47, Rob MacKillop [1]robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:

   A  A Ah, it says Courante de Gaultier - don't know why I couldn't see
   that
   A  A before.
   A  A Rob

 A  A [1][2]www.robmackillop.net

   A  A On 7 May 2014, at 16:23, Peter Steur [2][3]p.st...@inrim.it
   wrote:
   A  A Hi Rob,

 A  A I just happen to have a copy of this song in the Kremsmuenster

   A  A manuscript L81, it's the Courante at the top. Hope this helps.
   A  A Peter
   A  A ---Messaggio originale---

 A  A Da: [3]Rob MacKillop

   A  A Data: 07/05/2014 17:09:27

 A  A A: [4]LuteNet list
 A  A Oggetto: [LUTE] 'Prive de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book
 of
 A  A 1626.
 A  A Can anyone send me, or direct me to, a copy of one song: 'Prive
 de duex

   A  A beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626? Much obliged.
   A  A Rob MacKillop

 A  A [5][4]www.robmackillop.net

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[LUTE] Re: Re: 'Privé de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626.

2014-05-07 Thread Rob MacKillop
   Ignore my Gaultier reference - more confusion!

   On 7 May 2014 16:57, Rob MacKillop [1]robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:

   Just to clear up a little confusion...Peter Steur send a reference to
   it in Kremsmunster L81, and I hit Reply To All, but it never reached
   the Lute List. This is what I said:
   Thanks for theA KremsmA 1/4nster reference, Peter. I can see it on
   Scribd, but I can't make out the text, or even the second part of the
   title. Can you help with that?
   I know the piece as the untitled Courante and Double (as it has become
   known) from the Panmure 5 manuscript, in harp-sharp tuning. And there
   is a version for viol in a manuscript in Manchester. But today I
   learned it is also the song in Ballard's edition of 1626 (not a lute
   book, I am told).A
   So, I'd dearly love to see the song version, but any other version such
   as theA KremsmA 1/4nster would be of great interest too. It's such a
   beautiful piece.A
   Thanks again, Peter.
   Rob

   On 7 May 2014 16:47, Rob MacKillop [2]robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:

   A  A Ah, it says Courante de Gaultier - don't know why I couldn't see
   that
   A  A before.
   A  A Rob

 A  A [1][3]www.robmackillop.net

   A  A On 7 May 2014, at 16:23, Peter Steur [2][4]p.st...@inrim.it
   wrote:
   A  A Hi Rob,

 A  A I just happen to have a copy of this song in the Kremsmuenster

   A  A manuscript L81, it's the Courante at the top. Hope this helps.
   A  A Peter
   A  A ---Messaggio originale---

 A  A Da: [3]Rob MacKillop

   A  A Data: 07/05/2014 17:09:27

 A  A A: [4]LuteNet list
 A  A Oggetto: [LUTE] 'Prive de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book
 of
 A  A 1626.
 A  A Can anyone send me, or direct me to, a copy of one song: 'Prive
 de duex

   A  A beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626? Much obliged.
   A  A Rob MacKillop

 A  A [5][5]www.robmackillop.net

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[LUTE] Re: Re: Re: 'Privé de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626.

2014-05-07 Thread Matthew Daillie
Hi Rob,

There is an instrumental version in Albrecht Werl's Lutebook (2r Aria [Privé de 
deux beaux yeux] / 4 P. Ballard: RISM B/I 16288, f. 27v; cf. n° 168 et 207.
In the same book there is a pièce inspired by a song by Guédron called 'En fin 
ces beaux yeux' (80v) but I haven't made a comparison.

I have several of the airs de cour books published by Ballard (Minkoff 
facsimiles) but unfortunately not the 1626 one (VII in the series), where the 
piece appears as being by an anonymous composer. The Minkoff facsimile is no 
longer available but I believe the Centre de musique baroque de Versailles is 
going to publish all of Ballard's books (but they will probably be very 
expensive):

http://philidor.cmbv.fr/Publications/Catalogues-de-genre/Pierre-I-Ballard-et-Robert-III-Ballard-Imprimeurs-du-roy-pour-la-musique-1599-1673/Recueils/BATAILLE-Gabriel-1575-ca-1630-AIRS-DE-COUR-ET-DE-DIFFERENTS-AUTEURS-VII/(language)/fre-FR

They have already published the collected Airs de cour of Pierre Guédron and 
two books by Moulinié:

http://editions.cmbv.fr/achat/produit_details.php?id=963
http://editions.cmbv.fr/achat/produit_details.php?id=1059
http://editions.cmbv.fr/achat/produit_details.php?id=1060

Best wishes

Matthew

On 7 mai 2014, at 17:57, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:

   Just to clear up a little confusion...Peter Steur send a reference to
   it in Kremsmunster L81, and I hit Reply To All, but it never reached
   the Lute List. This is what I said:
   Thanks for theA KremsmA 1/4nster reference, Peter. I can see it on
   Scribd, but I can't make out the text, or even the second part of the
   title. Can you help with that?
   I know the piece as the untitled Courante and Double (as it has become
   known) from the Panmure 5 manuscript, in harp-sharp tuning. And there
   is a version for viol in a manuscript in Manchester. But today I
   learned it is also the song in Ballard's edition of 1626 (not a lute
   book, I am told).A
   So, I'd dearly love to see the song version, but any other version such
   as theA KremsmA 1/4nster would be of great interest too. It's such a
   beautiful piece.A
   Thanks again, Peter.
   Rob
 
   On 7 May 2014 16:47, Rob MacKillop [1]robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   A  A Ah, it says Courante de Gaultier - don't know why I couldn't see
   that
   A  A before.
   A  A Rob
 
 A  A [1][2]www.robmackillop.net
 
   A  A On 7 May 2014, at 16:23, Peter Steur [2][3]p.st...@inrim.it
   wrote:
   A  A Hi Rob,
 
 A  A I just happen to have a copy of this song in the Kremsmuenster
 
   A  A manuscript L81, it's the Courante at the top. Hope this helps.
   A  A Peter
   A  A ---Messaggio originale---
 
 A  A Da: [3]Rob MacKillop
 
   A  A Data: 07/05/2014 17:09:27
 
 A  A A: [4]LuteNet list
 A  A Oggetto: [LUTE] 'Prive de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book
 of
 A  A 1626.
 A  A Can anyone send me, or direct me to, a copy of one song: 'Prive
 de duex
 
   A  A beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626? Much obliged.
   A  A Rob MacKillop
 
 A  A [5][4]www.robmackillop.net
 
   A  A To get on or off this list see list information at
 
 A  A [6][5]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A  A [7]butterfly_top.gif
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 A  A Page 47v from Kremsmuenster L81.pdf 
 A  A --
 References
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 A  A 2. mailto:[7]p.st...@inrim.it
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 A  A 4. mailto:[9]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
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[LUTE] Matthew Leigh Embleton: Small Floating Crafts (Conclusion) for lute

2014-05-07 Thread WALSH STUART
Here is a version of the third section of Matthew's piece (originally 
written for keyboard, not fretboard), Small Floating Crafts:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzjxPKvFf8A


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[LUTE] Re: Re: Re: 'Privé de duex beaux yeux', from Ballard's book of 1626.

2014-05-07 Thread Rob MacKillop
   Thanks, Mathew! Much appreciated.
   Rob

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[LUTE] Re: Matthew Leigh Embleton: Small Floating Crafts (Conclusion) for lute

2014-05-07 Thread Ed Durbrow
Sounds like it sits very well on lute. Nice.

On May 8, 2014, at 5:05 AM, WALSH STUART s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote:

 Here is a version of the third section of Matthew's piece (originally written 
 for keyboard, not fretboard), Small Floating Crafts:
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzjxPKvFf8A

Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
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