http://torban.org/lodomericae/audio/485.mp3
http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/485.pdf
CANTIO LODOMERICA XLI
This item comes with its vocal prototype -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwlPxwetpWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdkKoTej9Eo
Enjoy!
Amities,
RT
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Looks more like an archlute to me, including double courses on the petit jeu
and single basses...
Jean-Marie
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Here's a nice picture:
This seems to suggest that theorbos were generally single strung on the
fingered courses which was clearly not the case historically - some
were; some weren't.
Or perhaps I have misunderstood what was meant by the words 'Looks more
like an archlute to me, including double courses on
You got it Martyn, which will not surprise you ;-) ! What I implied was that
archlutes were usually (impossible to say 'always' of course) double strung on
the fingerd courses and the basses were usually (same remark as before) single
strung, which leads me, plus the apparently rather short
Dear lute folks, can anyone point out any publication on the market
afor those who are starting on the theorboa? I mean simple and
progressive pieces for those with no experience at all. Everything I
have is for intermediate and advanced players (Kapsperger, Piccinini,
Hurel,
aIs there another bridge behind the actual bridge? There is a piece of
something that looks like a bridge.a
2015-06-16 8:19 GMT-03:00 Andreas Schlegel [1]lute.cor...@sunrise.ch:
Here's a nice picture:
[2]http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/paintings/neapolitan-school-17
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Interesting.. could it be a second bridge to attach the Diapasons?
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Bruno Cognyl-Fournier
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www.estavel.org
2015-06-16 10:10 GMT-04:00 Bruno
Andreas,
Thanks for pointing this out.
Very interesting. While it is mostly obscured by the player's ornate
cuff, the diapasons appear to be on their own bridge, making them even
longer than typical basses. They are also separated from the petit jeu
by a little distance and
Hey, from beyond the mountain flew a falcon,
And from beyond the village flew out two.
From beyond the village flew out two,
One called the other a brother.
Hey, my falcon brother, you fly high,
Tell me, my falcon brother, what you saw.
I saw green wheat, and
there in the wheat a Cossack was
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Maybe a wrong bridge? Or the string length was shortened...
2015-06-16 11:19 GMT-03:00 Bruno Cognyl-Fournier fournier...@gmail.com:
Interesting.. could it be a second bridge to
Agreed Martin, although I fully appreciate your careful use of normally
regarding double basses on the arciliuto ;-) !
I nevertheless have some doubts about the concept of normality applied to
17th century instrument making... Je doute donc je suis (René Descartes) :-)
!!!
Best wishes,
One feature which might point us in the direction of an archlute is that
we can only see 11 pegs on the petit jeu, implying a single top string -
but of course as this is right at the edge of the painting it could be
just a choice the painter made. When I say archlute of course I mean
a large
Dear Bruno,
Although I do not play the theorbo, I am aware of a theorbo tutor by
Francesca Torelli, aptly named A Tutor for the Theorbo. It is
published by Ut Orpheus Edizioni:
[1]http://www.utorpheus.com/product_info.php?cPath5products_id50. It
is available in English and
I was dissociated in the Torelli Tutor. It does have a few exercises
but as for actual pieces it is a bit lacking. For pieces I found the
two volumes of a Easy Theorbo pieces published by Seicento useful.
These are not actual theorbo works but lute and baroque guitar
transcriptions.
Whoops I meant dissapointedA
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Bill [1]wfeis...@msn.com wrote:
A A Dear Bruno,
A A Although I do not play the theorbo, I am aware of a theorbo
tutor by
A A Francesca Torelli, aptly named A Tutor for the Theorbo.A It
is
A A
[1]www.seicentomusic.de
On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Bill [2]wfeis...@msn.com wrote:
A A Thanks for the additional information and correction, Anthony!
A A Bill
A A
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A A Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015
Well, I really meant normally because we have loads or surviving liuti
attiorbati which are strung 7x2+7x2 therefore in terms of historical
evidence I take it to be normal.
I agree there were many variations in the 17th century but that is no
excuse for anyone to claim that we can just do
Thanks for the additional information and correction, Anthony!
Bill
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:12:39 +0200
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Theorbo pieces
From: anthony.hart1...@gmail.com
To: wfeis...@msn.com
CC:
Fine with me !
JM
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Well, I really meant normally because we have loads or surviving liuti
attiorbati which are strung 7x2+7x2 therefore in terms of historical
evidence I take it to be normal.
I agree there were many variations in the 17th century but that is no
excuse for
Not sure what this comment means.
Perhaps it refers to Castaldi having apparently used single strings on
his theorbo, as did some 17th century (and most modern) players. Hardly
a justification for using all single strings on any other kind of lute -
and even with the theorbo the evidence of
Apart from Castaldi being something of an outlier, one doesn't like to
rely too much on illustrations, where you can find all sorts of
oddities.
RA
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:54:13 +
To: praelu...@hotmail.com; mar...@luteshop.co.uk;
lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From:
Ron,
Not sure how much of an outlier we can really say Castaldi was.
Castaldi, Kapsperger, Pittoni, Melii... All those Italian seicento
theorbo dudes were highly (and, to me, delightfully) idiosyncratic. On
the face of it, Piccinini might at first seem to be the most
Hi Bill,
I'm aware of Torelli's tutor, however as you pointed out it lacksactual
pieces, and that's what I need. You mentioned seicento, is it a
= publisher?
Thanks.
2015-06-16 14:18 GMT-03:0= 0 Bill [1]wfeis...@msn.com:
Dear Bruno,
Although I do not play= the theorbo,
..and Castaldi's illustration is phoney? r
-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of
Ron Andrico
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 3:29 PM
To: mar...@luteshop.co.uk; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Tiorba
Thank you for
On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:54 PM, Roland Hayes rha...@legalaidbuffalo.org wrote:
..and Castaldi's illustration is phoney?
The illustration you’re thinking of is almost certainly a tiorbino.
That said, it’s inconceivable that in nearly two centuries nobody NO historical
players ever used
But are any of the cool kids using strings that behave like the extra
lengths of string are behaving in this pic? Very kinky!
Chris
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At Jun 16, 2015, 5:28:47 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote:
Not sure what this comment means.
Perhaps it refers
On Jun 16, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Christopher Wilke chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu
wrote:
But are any of the cool kids using strings that behave like the extra
lengths of string are behaving in this pic? Very kinky!
What you’re probably seeing is the famous tiorba apesca” or “bee-style
I'm sorry Anthony, I replied to Bill instea= d of you. So, Seicento
must be a publisher, I'll check it out. Thanks.= /div
2015-0= 6-16 15:12 GMT-03:00 Anthony Hart
[1]anthony.hart1...@gmail.com= :
I was dissociated in the Tor= elli Tutor. It does have a few
exercises but as
Â
 But are any of the cool kids using strings tha= t behave like
the extra
  lengths of string are behaving in this pic?
Â
Mimmo= #39;s unrectified strings and Dan's chanterelles strings behave
similar= ly to the curly, fraying strings in the painting. Actually,
Thank you for this, Martin.nb= sp; The un-historical continuo
instrument has become the norm with the ma= ny faux baroque orchestras
we see here in the US, as is true with many ot= her aspects of their
music and performance style. ; It's tiresome to = the ears of the
cognoscenti and
http://torban.org/lodomericae/audio/487.mp3
http://torban.org/lodomericae/images/487.pdf
CANTIO LODOMERICA XLIII
RT
On 6/16/2015 9:57 AM, r.turov...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey, from beyond the mountain flew a falcon,
And from beyond the village flew out two.
From beyond the village flew
Gotcha Ron, admit you 've been playing the guitar recently! ;o)
My first hasty response wasn't that succesful either, I was away
from home and helpless without my books.
Stathis
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From: Ron Andrico
Here's a nice picture:
http://www.christies.com/lotfinder/paintings/neapolitan-school-17th-century-portrait-of-a-5916349-details.aspx?from=searchresultsintObjectID=5916349sid=cffbc3d2-7de9-403b-a31a-94f4bc307181
Not a modern theorbo. An old tiorba with double courses on the petit jeu.
Enjoy!
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