[LUTE] Lindberg video

I saw a video on YouTube a while back of Jakob Lindberg visiting a luthier or string maker. He played a piece or two from memory. Does anyone know the link. I could not find it searching YouTube. Ed Durbrow Saitama, Japan http://www.youtube.com/user/edurbrow?feature=watch

[LUTE-BUILDER] Re: general question on flat-backed instruments (not lutes!)

Maybe someone more versed in guitar history can enlighten. The only thing I can say from my own observation is, in musical instrument construction in general, a lot of weight is placed on tradition. If someone famous or highly regarded plays an instrument by a certain maker, or made

[LUTE] Re: 14 Course Powered Tiorbino

I've alway been tempted to try to tune as tiorbino, never tried it, I have the perfect small archlute for it.. 60-92 but I've always tuned it in renaissance tuning, had wound strings on 5th trhough 13th, but now using loaded nylgut. I have two such instruments, maybe I should try

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Dear Rainer & Sean, It's in the 'Intavolatura di Lauto dell Divino Francesco da Milano et dell' eccelente Pietro Paulo Borrono ,' Milan, second printing 1548 where there is a description of the ornament in the in the regola: 'where a circle is found ( ), two fingers must be placed on the string

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Dear Denys, Rainer I was thinking of the Libro Ottavo, too, but found the same pattern in Intabulatura di Lauto del Divino FdM & del eccelente PPB da Milano … Libro Secondo, Venice, 1546. First instance in this book: First pavana, last system of 2nd page (m. 71), the third cipher is one too

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

I couldn't say without looking. I'm remembering a reference by Diana Poulton to an ornament where there are two tablature letters (in brackets if I remember correctly) of which only the first is plucked. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Mar 2017, at 16:23, Rainer

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Libro ottavo? If so, which piece? Rainer On 06.03.2017 15:58, jo.lued...@t-online.de wrote: Dear Rainer, dear list There is an ornament indication which can be interpreted as an appogiatura sign in Francesco da Milano & Pietro Paulo Borrono: Intavolatura di Lauto, Milano 1548.

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Dear Rainer, I don't have my books to hand just now, but If I remember correctly I think there is some ornamentation in one or more of the Borrono prints - I will look it up later. Best wishes, Denys Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Mar 2017, at 10:49, Rainer wrote: > >

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Oops, sorry I misremembered the hold signs. __ From: Rainer To: Lute net Sent: Monday, 6 March 2017, 6:47 Subject: [LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Dear Rainer Antonio Rotta, Intabolatura de lauto di lo eccelentissimo musicho messer Antonio Rotta di recercari, motetti, balli, ... Libro primo, Venice, 1546. Best wishes, Antonio P.S. Sorry for the reply to all, my old computer is quite temperamental about these matters.

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Wikipedia is no more unreliable than other encyclopedias which claim to be of academic merit. Some of the entries in Groves online are ludicrously inaccurate. And a lot of what passes for academic research today is also inaccurate. Monica Original Message From: r.turov...@gmail.com

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

I am not at all interested in discussing Wikipedia's policy. I simply wanted to know if anybody knows any printed tablature before barley with ornaments. And I really do not want to receive every reply twice. Rainer On 06.03.2017 13:41, Roman Turovsky wrote: Wikipedia has strict rules

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Wikipedia has strict rules against original research, and all information it permits has to externally documented with reliable scholarly sources. RT On 3/6/2017 7:31 AM, Rainer wrote: Of course, Wiki is unreliable. And - of course - there is no reason to believe the citation is incorrect.

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Am Montag, 06. März 2017 12:32 CET, Ron Andrico schrieb: >While Wikipedia is untrustworthy in most respects, in this case it may >be correct. While ornaments appear liberally in manuscript sources, >and there are various indications for right-hand

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Of course, Wiki is unreliable. And - of course - there is no reason to believe the citation is incorrect. However, why do you think I have asked for prints before 1596? Barley has ornaments. Rainer As usual you have pressed reply to all :) On 06.03.2017 12:32, Ron Andrico wrote: While

[LUTE] Re: Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

as to Wikipedia - it has been trustworthy in most fields of knowledge, with the exception of those areas that are politically contested (this is obviously not limited to Bakfark's ethnicity.). But even those areas are not in a bad shape. RT On 3/6/2017 6:32 AM, Ron Andrico wrote:

[LUTE] Earliest printed tablature with ornaments

Dear lute netters, According to Wikipedia "According to Frederick Neumann,[2] Vallet may have been among the first to introduce ornaments into lute tablature." Of course this is nonsense. Anyway, does anybody know of printed tablature with ornaments before 1596? Rainer To get on or off