[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[Mathias Rösel]

   It may contain pieces from Neusidler, but there is much more in there
   as you can se from the first page containing an index of sorts. (Notice
   how the Susanne has been crossed out!)

   G.

   The Sacks Tabulaturbok is a different manuscript, containing
   intabulations. I was referring to ms S 226 brought up by Mimmo.


   Mathias





   On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Mathias Rösel
   <[1]mathias.roe...@t-online.de> wrote:
   It seems to be a handwritten copy of Hans Newsidler 1536 / I. The
   Swedish
   server seems to answer awkwardly slowly, when downloading the PDF file.
   Mathias
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   Im Auftrag
   von G. C.
   Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 17:25
   An: lutelist Net
   Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German lute tablature
  I mentioned finding this on Sept. 29. Only Gary Boye reacted.
  I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50
  Mb):
  [1][4]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf
  This one was completely unknown to me. Could someone shed a light on
  this find?
  BR

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[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[G. C.]

   That's great news Magnus! Looking forward to what elucidation he can
   provide.
   BR
   G.

   On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:48 PM, Magnus Andersson
   <[1]magnusl...@gmail.com> wrote:

GÃ ¶ran:
Mathias Lundberg, music prof. in Uppsala, who wrote the inventory
 of
the whole music collection back in 2009, has promised me to look
at the original next time he ´s in Stockholm.
Best,
Magnus
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Magnus Andersson
<[1][2]magnusl...@gmail.com> wrote:
 And the book in "Sacks collection" in Stockholm is a
 wonderful
 collection, spanning
 music from the whole 16th century.
 Really technically demanding arrangements for (as far as I
 can
  see) 6
 course lute.
 Bavarian provenance? Compiled in second half of the 16th
 century,
  at
 least 4 pieces attributed to
 A S N, anyone has an idea whose initials that might be?
 On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Magnus Andersson

   <[1][2][3]magnusl...@gmail.com> wrote:
The ms S 226 was apparently complete when it came to
   Sweden,
 according
to Rudà ©n.
The order of the pieces are not identical. Copying must
   have
been
cheaper than buying the actual
book...
There are 6 extra pieces in this ms that are not included
   in
the
 1536
original edition of Newsidler ´s first book.
These are written in a different hand and from what I can
gather,
 much
later in style.
34v-36 Tantz- Nachtantz
36v /No title/
36v-37 Pauana
37v-38 Galliarda
38v-40 /Fantasia?/
109v /No title/
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   8. mailto:magnusl...@gmail.com
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[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[Magnus Andersson]

   Göran:
   Mathias Lundberg, music prof. in Uppsala, who wrote the inventory of
   the whole music collection back in 2009, has promised me to look
   at the original next time he ´s in Stockholm.
   Best,
   Magnus

   On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:45 PM, Magnus Andersson
   <[1]magnusl...@gmail.com> wrote:

And the book in "Sacks collection" in Stockholm is a wonderful
collection, spanning
music from the whole 16th century.
Really technically demanding arrangements for (as far as I can
 see) 6
course lute.
Bavarian provenance? Compiled in second half of the 16th century,
 at
least 4 pieces attributed to
A S N, anyone has an idea whose initials that might be?
On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Magnus Andersson
<[1][2]magnusl...@gmail.com> wrote:
 The ms S 226 was apparently complete when it came to Sweden,
  according
 to Rudà ©n.
 The order of the pieces are not identical. Copying must have
 been
 cheaper than buying the actual
 book...
 There are 6 extra pieces in this ms that are not included in
 the
  1536
 original edition of Newsidler ´s first book.
 These are written in a different hand and from what I can
 gather,
  much
 later in style.
 34v-36 Tantz- Nachtantz
 36v /No title/
 36v-37 Pauana
 37v-38 Galliarda
 38v-40 /Fantasia?/
 109v /No title/
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[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[Magnus Andersson]

   And the book in "Sacks collection" in Stockholm is a wonderful
   collection, spanning
   music from the whole 16th century.
   Really technically demanding arrangements for (as far as I can see) 6
   course lute.
   Bavarian provenance? Compiled in second half of the 16th century, at
   least 4 pieces attributed to
   A S N, anyone has an idea whose initials that might be?

   On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 11:30 PM, Magnus Andersson
   <[1]magnusl...@gmail.com> wrote:

The ms S 226 was apparently complete when it came to Sweden,
 according
to Rudà ©n.
The order of the pieces are not identical. Copying must have been
cheaper than buying the actual
book...
There are 6 extra pieces in this ms that are not included in the
 1536
original edition of Newsidler ´s first book.
These are written in a different hand and from what I can gather,
 much
later in style.
34v-36 Tantz- Nachtantz
36v /No title/
36v-37 Pauana
37v-38 Galliarda
38v-40 /Fantasia?/
109v /No title/
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[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[G. C.]

   Hej Magnus!
   Do you by chance know also anything about this other manuscript I came
   across in September which is a mystery to me, but which Rudén
   apparently was also aware of. Any info available?
   [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf
   Best
   G.

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[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[Magnus Andersson]

   The ms S 226 was apparently complete when it came to Sweden, according
   to Rudén.
   The order of the pieces are not identical. Copying must have been
   cheaper than buying the actual
   book...
   There are 6 extra pieces in this ms that are not included in the 1536
   original edition of Newsidler ´s first book.
   These are written in a different hand and from what I can gather, much
   later in style.
   34v-36 Tantz- Nachtantz
   36v /No title/
   36v-37 Pauana
   37v-38 Galliarda
   38v-40 /Fantasia?/
   109v /No title/

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[LUTE] Re: Lute request

[Matthew Daillie]

Thanks Wayne

best,
Matthew

On 14/11/2017 21:45, Wayne wrote:

Hi People -

   There were some problems with the lute mail server - the hard drive filled 
up.  Hopefully that is fixed now.

   Wayne





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[LUTE] Lute request

[Wayne]

Hi People -

  There were some problems with the lute mail server - the hard drive filled 
up.  Hopefully that is fixed now.

  Wayne


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: "Ron Fletcher" 
> Subject: [LUTE] Re: Lute request
> Date: November 14, 2017 at 1:00:27 PM EST
> To: "'Lutelist'" 
> 
>   Anyone had one of these?  What does it mean?
> 
>   Ron (UK)
> 
>   __
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>   [[1]mailto:lute-request+ron.fletcher=ntlworld@new-old-mail.cs.dartm
>   outh.edu]
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[LUTE] Re: Lute request

[mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk]

I had this message too - --

Original Message
From: howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Date: 14/11/2017 18:29 
To: "Lutelist"
Subj: [LUTE] Re: Lute request


> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Ron Fletcher  wrote:
> 
>   Anyone had one of these?  What does it mean?

Could you offer more information?  It sounds like you may have found a 
suspicious link and clicked on it.  Others may not want to.



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[LUTE] Re: Lute request

[Bernd Haegemann]

On 14.11.2017 19:00, Ron Fletcher wrote:

Anyone had one of these?  What does it mean?

Ron (UK)

__
From:
lute-request+ron.fletcher=ntlworld@new-old-mail.cs.dartmouth.edu
[[1]mailto:lute-request+ron.fletcher=ntlworld@new-old-mail.cs.dartm
outh.edu]

I got one today, same as yours, only with my mail address in place of yours.
Seems to be empty.

B

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[LUTE] Re: Lute request

[howard posner]

> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:00 AM, Ron Fletcher  wrote:
> 
>   Anyone had one of these?  What does it mean?

Could you offer more information?  It sounds like you may have found a 
suspicious link and clicked on it.  Others may not want to.



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[LUTE] Re: Lute request

[Ron Fletcher]

   Anyone had one of these?  What does it mean?

   Ron (UK)

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   [[1]mailto:lute-request+ron.fletcher=ntlworld@new-old-mail.cs.dartm
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   Sent:   14 November 2017 13:13
   Subject:

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[LUTE] Re: Bad lute music -

[Alain Veylit]

I just finished (the first draft of) a transcription of a sonata in the 
Bologna Dall Casa manuscript which seems to me quite extraordinary. I 
don't know if it is bad music, but it is different - with three very 
distinct sections in strikingly different styles. If you are curious, 
please check out: http://fandango.musickshandmade.com/dalla-casa - it is 
number 19 (the last one currently). For a quick and dirty audio 
rendition see the audio tool at the bottom (ogg format only, so not 
available with Windows explorer, but Firefox and Chrome should be able 
to handle it).


Did Philip Glass make a quick incursion in the middle of the 18th century?











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[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[G. C.]

--f403045e8546915355055df17ae1
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It may contain pieces from Neusidler, but there is much more in there as
you can se from the first page containing an index of sorts. (Notice how
the Susanne has been crossed out!)

G.

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Mathias Rösel 
wrote:
It seems to be a handwritten copy of Hans Newsidler 1536 / I. The Swedish
server seems to answer awkwardly slowly, when downloading the PDF file.

Mathias



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Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von G. C.
Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 17:25
An: lutelist Net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

   I mentioned finding this on Sept. 29. Only Gary Boye reacted.
   I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50
   Mb):
   [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf
   This one was completely unknown to me. Could someone shed a light on
   this find?
   BR

--f403045e8546915355055df17ae1
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It may contain pieces from Neusidler, but there is much 
more in 
there as you can se from the first page containing an index of sorts. 
(Notice how the Susanne has been crossed out!)G.On Tue, 
Nov 14, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Mathias Rösel mailto:mathias.roe...@t-online.de; 
target="_blank">mathias.roe...@t-online.de wrote:It seems to 
be a handwritten copy of Hans Newsidler 1536 / I. The Swedish
server seems to answer awkwardly slowly, when downloading the PDF file.

Mathias



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[mailto:mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu;>lute-arc@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im 
Auftrag
von G. C.
Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 17:25
An: lutelist Net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

   I mentioned finding this on Sept. 29. Only Gary Boye reacted.
   I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50
   Mb):
   [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf; 
rel="noreferrer" 
target="_blank">http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf
   This one was completely unknown to me. Could someone shed a light on
   this find?
   BR

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[LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

[Mathias Rösel]

It seems to be a handwritten copy of Hans Newsidler 1536 / I. The Swedish
server seems to answer awkwardly slowly, when downloading the PDF file.

Mathias



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Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von G. C.
Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2017 17:25
An: lutelist Net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: German lute tablature

   I mentioned finding this on Sept. 29. Only Gary Boye reacted.
   I found the following book of german tablature online in Sweden (50
   Mb):
   [1]http://carkiv.musikverk.se/www/Tabulaturbok_Sacks_samling.pdf
   This one was completely unknown to me. Could someone shed a light on
   this find?
   BR
   On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Mimmo - Aquila Corde Armoniche
   <[2]mperu...@aquilacorde.com> wrote:

 Hello guys,
 I have found by chances this one:
 [3]https://archive.org/details/urn-nbn-se-kb-digark-5441771
 Is it already knows?
 Mimmo
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