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Dear Denys,
a few days ago I sent an e-mail to you that bounced back.
Do you have another mail account I might try?
Happy Christmas,
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1)
No. 44, Lute Galliard No. 19
The cognate
CS, sig. L3v-L4r, "Galliarde"
is incorrect
Must be
CS, sig. I2v-I3r, "Galliarde"
Must be changed in the crossref table at the end of volume II, too.
In Brian Jeffery's
this appears as 12v-13, which probably is a typo for l2v-l3 =
Dear lute netters,
I seem to remember that recently somebody posted a list of sources with
Spanish/Milan tablature including Neapolitan tablature.
In an article by Michael Fink (LSAQ XLIV, No.4, 2009, pp. 29-32) there is a
list of such sources:
Pesaro, Biblioteca Oliveriana, MS 1144 (c.
On 25.12.2018 12:51, Joachim Lüdtke wrote:
Dear Ed, dear Matthew,
that is what I found in the introduction too, and still you have to cope with
the Situation Ed describes. I tend to your No 2, Ed!
Cheers, Joachim
P.S.: I still have a number of copies of the Minkoff facsimile I anyone is
Dear lute netters,
as most of you probably know this books was been inaccessible for decades.
It is on-line now:
https://vivaldi.nlr.ru/bn10585/view
Rainer
PS
There is even a download button :)
Apparently you cannot download more than 10 pages at a time, though.
Does anybody
Apparently there are still some people who always "reply to all".
I don't know if they are lazy or idiots...
I am really fed up with this. I don't want to receive the same mail twice.
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On 02.09.2017 15:18, Tristan von Neumann wrote:
I meant this probably early version from the Lute manuscript in Nuremberg.
Why on earth haven't you told us?
Grr
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explanation, but seems also
remembered/notated phonetically ;)
All the best,
Jerzy
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On 2 Jun 2017, at 19:51, adS <rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de> wrote:
Dear lute netters,
can a member from Poland confirm that
"Taned Spolski" (Vallet, 1615)
should be
"Ta
Dear lute netters,
can a member from Poland confirm that
"Taned Spolski" (Vallet, 1615)
should be
"Taniec polski"
?
If so, should it contain any special characters?
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Dear lute netters,
to (the few?) owners of a copy of Grünbühel. (Gru"nbu"hel)
One of the scribes uses a strange symbol for ornaments:
two short parallel lines under the note. Sometimes the lines are descending
sometimes descending sometimes horizontal.
However, I think they always have the
I have both books and a few others about Shakespeare and music.
I only found (Taylor, "Shakespeare and Music", 1931 and Wilson & Galore, Music
in Shakespeare, 2005):
There is a reference to three-man songs in Winter's Tale.
Quite far-fetched, but you might transpose one of the songs by
On 11.03.2017 07:10, jslute wrote:
There's an English country dance from around the same time called "The Female
Sailor," and Vallet seems to have some English connections.
Jim Stimson
I have "discovered" this already - this dance was written by Marais in 1706 :(
Rainer
There is another
On 10.03.2017 20:30, Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
Rainer you should get the facsimile from the Dutch Lute society ! Excellent
edition to spare you poor old CNRS book ;-) !
I have both facsimile editions.
A "marinière" would be a sailor girl... No idea why Vallet uses this term for
his piece.
Dear lute netters,
I wonder what the meaning of la marinière could have been in 1615 (Vallet's 1st
book).
Does anybody know?
Rainer
PS
My CNRS Vallet edition started to fall apart 25 years ago - VERY cheap paper.
I have borrowed the second edition (1989) from a library.
The paper is much
This one?
http://www.europeana.eu/portal/en/record/9200386/BibliographicResource_345467579.html?q=libro+de+le+canzoni+franzese
On 27.11.2016 16:40, Martin Shepherd wrote:
Dear Collective Wisdom,
Can anyone provide me with a copy of the chanson "Nous Bergiers" - no.9 in "Il
primo libro de
Dear Matthew,
I am sorry to tell you:
Howard Mayer Brown 'Instrumental Music Printed Before 1600'
4022 is a manuscript.
The Lute Online resources portal:
http://lutesoc.co.uk/lute-portal/annotated-catalogue-of-historical-printed-sources
There is, of course, no list of concordances for
On 15.08.2016 13:08, Daniel Shoskes wrote:
Dear Collective Wisdom: I have grown so accustomed to easy access to catalogues
and concordances in the baroque lute world thanks to Peter Steur’s excellent
website that when I have a Ren Ms to query I feel lost. Specifically, is there
a catalogue of
Libro primo:http://data.onb.ac.at/rec/AC08836336
Libro secondo: http://data.onb.ac.at/rec/AC08836393
Libro quinto: http://data.onb.ac.at/rec/AC08836415
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Now I remember.
Isn't he the guy who played Dowland with the Karamazov brothers?
Rainer
On 29.08.2015 22:30, Ron Andrico wrote:
Ouch.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:57:48 -0700
To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: howardpos...@ca.rr.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Saturday morning
Dear collected wisdom,
Does anybody out there know if in urgent cases (the black death) babies may have
been christened and buried on the same day in the the late 16th century in London?
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Dublin
told me they will fix the problem as soon as possible.
He says it's a software bug.
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References
1.
http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/home/#folder_id=1373pidtopage=MS410_001entry_point=1
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Hirsch 2r/2 No Title
Nevell 61v-62vmr: w: birde: / the galliarde to the same:
Welde8r/1 The Galiard Mr Birde
If you don't have Welde I can scan it for you - or any other version for lute.
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has no page numbers.
I wonder why :)
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Tim Keefe
Head of Digital Resources Imaging Services
Trinity College Dublin
told me they will fix the problem as soon as possible.
He says it's a software bug.
Rainer adS
On 11.04.2015 15:18, adS wrote:
On 11.04.2015 13:18, Matteo Turri wrote:
.. and why are so many pages missing
http://digitalcollections.tcd.ie/content/1373/pdf/1373.pdf
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On 11.04.2015 13:18, Matteo Turri wrote:
.. and why are so many pages missing?
Matteo
Good question - I have sent an e-mail to Head of Digital Resources Imaging
Services a few minutes ago.
Rainer
On 11 April 2015 at 11:27, adS [1]rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de wrote
Thank you very much for your fairly smart e-mail.
Rainer
On 29.03.2015 17:49, Alain wrote:
This message by Rainer only reflects his own personal opinion and only engages
his responsibility. Many people are known to disagree. Some of them fairly
smart.
Alain
On 03/29/2015 02:45 AM, Rainer
http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530592353
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bdh-rd.bne.es/viewer.vm?id=145094
In order to find the music see
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramillete_de_flores
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OT, but really terrifying:
Can anybody tell we what is going on in the UK?
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jan/19/gchq-intercepted-emails-journalists-ny-times-bbc-guardian-le-monde-reuters-nbc-washington-post?CMP=twt_gu
Rainer adS
As many lute-nettrs may know I am hopelessly
-bsb00085036-7
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Dear lute-netters,
has anybody out there read this article?
http://scholarship.claremont.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1112context=ppr
I wonder what others think about it.
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On 16.02.2014 20:43, Christopher Wilke wrote:
There was another article about Vallet's fingerings by Laudon Schuett published
in the LSA Quarterly not so long ago. He reaches essentially the same
conclusions as Sandman that Vallet chose fingerings primarily for their musical
effect.
I'm
Many thanks
Matthew Daillie
Subject: Baroque Lute manuscripts
From: adS rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de mailto:rainer.aus-dem-spr...@gmx.de
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:54:59 +0100
RM 4137 olim Mf 2004http://fbc.pionier.net.pl/id/oai:ebuw.uw.edu.pl:107844
RM 4142 olim Mf 2010http://fbc.pionier.net.pl
The second and third book are available at the Digital Library of Wroclaw
University.
Unfortunately the first book is not :(
Rainer adS
On 30.01.2014 12:57, jean-michel Catherinot wrote:
Dear all, I'm looking for a copy of the libro primo di Claudio Saracini
(both songs and solo
RM 4137 olim Mf 2004
http://fbc.pionier.net.pl/id/oai:ebuw.uw.edu.pl:107844
RM 4142 olim Mf 2010
http://fbc.pionier.net.pl/id/oai:ebuw.uw.edu.pl:107848
RM 4140 olim Mf 2008
http://fbc.pionier.net.pl/id/oai:ebuw.uw.edu.pl:107846
RM 4143 olim Mf 2011
Dear lute-netters,
has anybody managed to install gamera on a windows system?
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http://hdl.handle.net/1802/27721
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http://blog.inkyfool.com/2013/08/hamlet-is-banned.html?m=0
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http://jbc.bj.uj.edu.pl/dlibra/doccontent?id=145083from=PIONIER%20DLF
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For example 40032:
http://jbc.bj.uj.edu.pl/dlibra/doccontent?id=193682from=PIONIER%20DLF
Rainer
On 28.07.2013 00:43, Rainer wrote:
Search for lute, tabulatur, lautenbuch, vihuela,
http://www.europeana.eu/portal/
On the pages you'll visit you may find more.
Rainer adS
To get
This is certainly a copyright violation - the whole CD on youtube.
Anyway, the piece in question may be found in Dd.3.18, ff. 62r-63r
http://www.gerbode.net/ft2/facsimiles/cambridge_university_library/Dd.3.18/
Rainer adS
On 25.06.2013 16:53, Anton Birula wrote:
Dear Lute friends
could
--
Hainhofer, Book I, f. 35v
See: http://diglib.hab.de/wdb.php?dir=mss%2F18-7-aug-2fpointer=0
It is page 78
http://diglib.hab.de/mss/18-7-aug-2f/start.htm?image=00078
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Probably
4 Ricercar MN Dessau BB 12150, ff. 29r-30r
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On 02.03.2013 16:57, Peter Martin wrote:
Does anyone know where to locate the music for the piece entitled
Fantasia 21 on Paul O'Dette's CD? It doesn't seem to be in the printed
books and I can't see it in Arthur
4'33 - RIP
Rainer adS
On 21.12.2012 01:42, howard posner wrote:
On Dec 20, 2012, at 4:22 PM, WALSH STUART s.wa...@ntlworld.com wrote:
I think this could work as a lute piece... as a sort of prelude.
And if you want a sort of Cage suite, I've found that 2'33 works as well on
the lute
-bsb00031267-3
Probably more
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Perhaps you should use a tool like checkplaces to remove all the dead links.
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On 29.06.2012 15:09, T.Kakinami wrote:
Dear list,
My facsimile list was released.
Please note this list is still incomplete.
http://kakitoshilute.blogspot.jp/2012/06/facsimiles-list-preliminary.html
On 14.02.2012 16:22, Stewart McCoy wrote:
Dear Leonard and David,
John Robinson explains the origin of Chow Bent in footnote 133 on page
24 of the Introduction to the Lute Society facsimile of Dd.2.11, for
which Rainer aus dem Spring is thanked in the Acknowledgements on page
8.
That was a
... (1031 ones) is a prime.
Rainer adS
On 11.11.2011 01:57, G.R. Crona wrote:
11-11-11
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Have a look at
www.liederenbank.nl
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On 10.11.2011 18:35, David van Ooijen wrote:
Dear collected wisdom
I am looking for 16th or early 17th century melodies with the following titles:
- Een zaterdagje na de noene
- Essex leijdt
- O schoonste schoonheid wreed
- Mes pleurs se
Dear Ron,
the rhythm in bar 33 of the Dowland piece is not correct - I think.
Cf. bar 41.
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On 09.07.2011 19:33, Bernd Haegemann wrote:
Historische Beschreibung der Edelen Sing- und Klingkunst ... by Wofgang
CasparPrintz.
which you can find here:
http://diglib.hab.de/drucke/xb-1894/start.htm
Excellent.
See page 135 (picture 157).
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On 11.07.2011 19:53, adS wrote:
On 09.07.2011 19:33, Bernd Haegemann wrote:
Historische Beschreibung der Edelen Sing- und Klingkunst ... by Wofgang
CasparPrintz.
which you can find here:
http://diglib.hab.de/drucke/xb-1894/start.htm
Excellent.
See page 135 (picture 157).
Rainer
See my Holborne edition :)
Rainer adS
On 26.05.2011 10:05, Rob MacKillop wrote:
A friend sent me the following, which I will delight some of you, I'm
sure...Original Latin below the translation:
Charles Fitzgeoffrey of Cornwall, Epigram 75
.Nov.1633.
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Quarterly
Vol. 16, No. 2 (Spring, 1965), pp. 233-235
When I told Ian Harwood many years ago it was too late for the New Grove.
Rainer adS
PS
Today a transcription of MS. V. b. 198 is available on the net:
http://www.archive.org/details/southwellsibthor00soutuoft
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Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu im Auftrag von adS
Gesendet: So 15.05.2011 19:02
An: Lute net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Robert Johnson
On 15.05.2011 18:02, howard posner wrote
about it in the
internet. Does anybody know, if there is some free material out there, which I may not
have found yet?
Thanks, Jörg
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Here - as usual - my concordance list:
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.
I can't see any connection.
Any idea, anybody?
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By the way,
does anybody know of a concordance list for Terpsichore?
Apparently there's not even a decent modern edition...
Rainer
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I know of lute concordances for 32 pieces.
On 01.03.2011 18:58, Anton Höger wrote:
Hi,
I have uploaded a new Lute duet ad Secundam.
Praetorius, Michael -
In google books search for
inauthor:Giovanni Antonio Terzi
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Erm, of course you should look for books with full view only :)
Rainer
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In google books search for
inauthor:Giovanni Antonio Terzi
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On 21.01.2011 00:23, Bruno Fournier wrote:
I probably haveA them in myA AirsA de CoursA anthology, I have to
check
AreA youA sureA ?A
RainerA adSA
A
Bruno
Montreal, Canada
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM, Jeffrey Noonan
[1]jjnoo...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00046906/image_1
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Who says this is a piece by Holborne?
Rainer adS
On 04.01.2011 09:59, Alain wrote:
Hi everyone,
I am looking for the source of a pavan by Holborn that begins like this:
http://musickshandmade.com/lute/Holborn-unknown.jpg
If possible I'd like the title of the piece, the source MS name and page
Dear lute-netters,
I have no idea if this has been posted already:
http://daten.digitale-sammlungen.de/bsb00050861/image_1
I can't read it but It looks like guitar tablature :)
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Dear lute-netters,
in Woltz, Johann: NOVA MVSICES ORGANICAE TABVLATVRA§ there is a piece
5. Ah flebilem vitam Fabric.Dentici
Does anybody know if this is our Fabricio Dentice?
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of the University of
Wisconsin. Here:
http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/
As of today the recommended release is GPL Ghostscript 8.61.
Better have a look at
http://sourceforge.net/projects/ghostscript/
Rainer adS
PS
Currently both have the same version :)
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} and
\cite{DallisWard2}.
Concerning Dallis, see also \cite{HarwoodDallis}.
The book contains some music for bandora, too.
Rainer adS
Hi...
t
t Does anyone know if the 'Dallis' lute book in Trinity College, Dublin (Ms.
D. 3. 30 ) is all in renaissance tuning (or transitional), and has it ever been
http://gerbode.net/ft2/sources/vallet/
Rainer adS
On 25.03.2010 13:30, Shaun Ng wrote:
Dear All,
I was wondering if Nicolas Vallet's Secret de Muses (1615) is available
online in facsimile. I am looking to do some research on his
ornaments.
Many thanks.
Shaun Ng
Hello everybody,
could somebody please tell (with exact sources - manuscript, folio and title) me
what pieces have the numbers 101... in CLM (Poulton Lam)?
I only have the first edition :) and for a reason I do not know I have only
104 in my database.
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-Original Message-
From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of
Arto Wikla
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:40 AM
To: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Subject: [LUTE] Re: München 266
b...@symbol4.de wrote:
I paid a fortune for the film (and much less for XEROX copies) and I must say -
it is certainly not a very important manuscript.
Many poor versions of well known and not so well known music.
It is - sort of - a collector's item.
Of course, I will buy it :)
Rainer adS
angevin...@att.net
Welter is mentioned by Zuth and the Royal Academy of Music owns another portrait
(from the Spencer collection).
Rainer adS
henner.kahl...@t-online.de wrote:
Dear all,
this is an interesting link for all who are interested in historical
professions and tools, the Nürnberger Hausbücher
wolfgang wiehe wrote:
Hi,
John H Robinson posted his list from 1997 Lute intabulations of music
by Josquin in prints and manuscripts to the lute list some years ago.
I have a paper copy.
Wolfgang w.
Here we go
Rainer
Adieu mes amours
Adieu mes amoursMunich 272 ff.52v-53
Adieu
, Sancte paule : Adr. vuilgliar.
Neusidler 1549[6], e3r, Sant Merten bringt der gesellschaft vil. 8.
I guess any Ave Sanctissima does not count(?)...
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This piece is very problematic.
But why do you think that it is obviously a consort part?
Lyle Nordstrom has attributed many anonymous trebles to Johnson. Others have
serious doubts ...
Rainer adS
Jean-Marie Poirier wrote:
I don't think there is such thing as a John Johnson's version
No Titlefragment
which appears in keyboard sources as The Burying of ye Dead / The End of ye:
Battel
Phalèse 1546[18]: Fortune lesse moy la vie.
Funerals don't count, do they?
Rainer adS
for Dowland's music.
Why on earth does he think Dowland has anything to do with this setting of CLM19
that is simply called Galliarde and not attributed to anybody by Francisque.
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Sweelinck, Jan Uppsala 408 24v-28r Pavana Hispanica a
M.J.P. [Sweelinck]
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Dear Martin,
on your web page you say:
Altogether it appears in nine sources
Well, I have:
Source Page/No.Title in source
Schele 64/1 Corante Mercurij A[nn]o 1615.
Schele 87/2 Courante
Aegidius 99rCourante
Basel F.IX.53 11r-12r Courante
402211v/3 [Cou]rant
Peter Jones-RR wrote:
Dear List,
Following your assistance in tracking down music for the production of
Much Ado in which I star as Background Lute Player No 1, I turn to the
collected wisdom again in an attempt to find some more music that I have
been asked to play for the production.
Does
different software for the
music they post on the werner icking music archive.
Output looks very nice. This
program is also very good for continuo figured bass.
(see http://icking-music-archive.org/software/indexmt6.html for details)
Taco
Stay away from musixtex. It is a nightmare
Rainer adS
almain?
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David Tayler wrote:
Bucton is Morley, of course :)
Of course.
Ward suggested Bucton was the courier who worked with Dowland for Sir Henry
Cobham in Paris.
Dowland's little joke.
Please explain.
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The concordance appears in my database - so it can't be new :)
Source Page/No.Title in source
Dd.2.11 52r/1 Susanna Galliard
Musical Banquet B1rThe Right Honourable the Lord Viscount Lisle,
Lord Chamberlaine to the Queenes most excellent Maiestie,
to the pauen last before Ant Holburne
Dd.5.78.3 19v/1 A H
Marsh386/2-387 A galliard holborne
Dd.9.33 66v-67r/1 Galliarde A Holburne
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This looks like staynes moris, the third piece on page 91 of Ms.408/2,
Trinity
College Library.
This manuscript is bound together with the so-called Ballet lute book.
I have a film of the manuscripts and a poor XEROX copy of both.
I can try to scan the piece and send it.
Rainer adS
LGS
Andreas Schlegel wrote:
1611 Rom, Kapsberger 10 course
Has anybody mentioned Ballard, 1611.
Rainer adS
PS
I think he does not use all 1ß course in a single piece.
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I think I have Heft 1.
What do you want to know?
Rainer aus dem Spring
Jorge Torres wrote:
Dear List:
Does anybody have experience with the following Walter Gerwig publication?
Das Spiel der Lauteninstrumente : der Lautenist
Berlin-Lichterfelde : R. Lienau, 1961?
Heft l. Aus Ein
list.
I thought:
7-course one tone below the 6th c.: Newsidler Teutsch Lautenbuch 1574
(but I don't have a copy...)
Bakfark, Cracow Lute Book, 1565
This is the first printed book with tablature for a 7-course lute.
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someone have this in the original, which I think was not in German?
Hm, according to the instructions in Novus Partus (page 116 in the facsimile
edition):
... pollice et priori digito necessario vtendum esset.
thumb and first finger(?).
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