[LUTE] Re: Barring tips

2018-04-21 Thread Dan Winheld 
Don't neglect bar hopping. Start barring the 3rd position/fret, move up 
to 5th, back to 1st or 2nd, up to 6th and/or 7th; then supplement 1st 
finger only (in order to learn to make all strings sound clearly) with 
chord formations and scale patterns.


 Advanced training- take any very simple piece that is in open 
string/1st position and play the whole thing anywhere up the neck with 3 
fingers, your 1st finger bar being the "nut".


Then move on to pub crawling.

Dan

On 4/21/2018 12:51 PM, Leonard Williams wrote:

Thanks for the suggestions!  It looks like a major factor in
getting this down is - work on it!  Hopefully it will take less time
than tuning has.

Chris--I'm not sure about all that water before barring:  I like to
get there thirsty. And I'm generally good about tipping after barring,
espcially if I'm tipsy.

Thanks all,

Leonard

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[LUTE] Re: Barring tips

2018-04-21 Thread stephan.olbertz 
   Good advice from Chris. It is also often helpful to move the finger
   just some millimetres up or down. In long passages it's important to
   use the arm weight rather than pressing hard.

   Stephan

   Von meinem Samsung Galaxy Smartphone gesendet.

    Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
   Von: Christopher Wilke <chriswi...@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Datum: 20.04.18 22:47 (GMT+01:00)
   An: Leonard Williams <arc...@verizon.net>
   Cc: Lutelist Net <lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Barring tips

  My advice for barring would be to drink a lot of water beforehand,
   when
  you're there and when you get home.
  It also helps to curve your finger - the arch shape is much stronger
  than a straight finger, meaning that you don't have to use as much
  muscular Force to press down. Also, place the finger down more on
   the
  side than flat. If you can, try to mash the strings with the boney
   side
  of a knuckle instead of the fleshy part of yer fanger.
  Chris
  [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
  On Friday, April 20, 2018, 4:23 PM, Leonard Williams
  <arc...@verizon.net> wrote:
I'm looking for tips on barring--it's always been a weak point
  for
me, particularly when a moving passage over a bar hits a barred
   note.
This is espaecially so when the note is on a middle course. Would
heavier frets - short of buzzing the strings -help? (currently
   using
1.1mm 1st, graded downward in 0.05 increments).  I'm guessing an
  arched
fingerboard woulds be ideal, but I can't afford that right now.
Thanks and regards,
Leonard Williams
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[LUTE] Re: Barring tips

2018-04-20 Thread Elliott Chapin 
Try to avoid gripping, use arm weight.


On 04/20/2018 04:47 PM, Christopher Wilke wrote:
>My advice for barring would be to drink a lot of water beforehand, when
>you're there and when you get home.
>
>It also helps to curve your finger - the arch shape is much stronger
>than a straight finger, meaning that you don't have to use as much
>muscular Force to press down. Also, place the finger down more on the
>side than flat. If you can, try to mash the strings with the boney side
>of a knuckle instead of the fleshy part of yer fanger.
>
>Chris
>
>[1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>On Friday, April 20, 2018, 4:23 PM, Leonard Williams
> wrote:
>
>  I'm looking for tips on barring--it's always been a weak point
>for
>
>  me, particularly when a moving passage over a bar hits a barred note.
>
>  This is espaecially so when the note is on a middle course. Would
>
>  heavier frets - short of buzzing the strings -help? (currently using
>
>  1.1mm 1st, graded downward in 0.05 increments).  I'm guessing an
>arched
>
>  fingerboard woulds be ideal, but I can't afford that right now.
>
>  Thanks and regards,
>
>  Leonard Williams
>
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[LUTE] Re: Barring tips

2018-04-20 Thread Christopher Wilke 
   My advice for barring would be to drink a lot of water beforehand, when
   you're there and when you get home.

   It also helps to curve your finger - the arch shape is much stronger
   than a straight finger, meaning that you don't have to use as much
   muscular Force to press down. Also, place the finger down more on the
   side than flat. If you can, try to mash the strings with the boney side
   of a knuckle instead of the fleshy part of yer fanger.

   Chris

   [1]Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

   On Friday, April 20, 2018, 4:23 PM, Leonard Williams
    wrote:

 I'm looking for tips on barring--it's always been a weak point
   for

 me, particularly when a moving passage over a bar hits a barred note.

 This is espaecially so when the note is on a middle course. Would

 heavier frets - short of buzzing the strings -help? (currently using

 1.1mm 1st, graded downward in 0.05 increments).  I'm guessing an
   arched

 fingerboard woulds be ideal, but I can't afford that right now.

 Thanks and regards,

 Leonard Williams

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[LUTE] Re: Barring tips

2018-04-20 Thread Martin Shepherd 

You might find my video useful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC67RzwR_-g

Hope it helps,

Martin

On 20/04/2018 22:21, Leonard Williams wrote:

I'm looking for tips on barring--it's always been a weak point for
me, particularly when a moving passage over a bar hits a barred note.
This is espaecially so when the note is on a middle course. Would
heavier frets - short of buzzing the strings -help? (currently using
1.1mm 1st, graded downward in 0.05 increments).  I'm guessing an arched
fingerboard woulds be ideal, but I can't afford that right now.

Thanks and regards,

Leonard Williams

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