[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[Ed Durbrow]

That was neat. Pretty much a thumb under position.

On Jul 7, 2018, at 6:39 PM, Joaquim Silva  wrote:

> Yes, portuguese guitar is played mainly with «dos dedos» and «dedillo» 
> techniques, using 
> artificial nails acting as picks. You can see this playing style clearly
> in this performance of one of the most aclaimed portuguese guitar 
> players, Pedro Caldeira Cabral, using tortoise shell nails
> >

Ed Durbrow
Saitama, Japan
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[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[Joaquim Silva]

Yes, portuguese guitar is played mainly with «dos dedos» and «dedillo» 
techniques, using 
artificial nails acting as picks. You can see this playing style clearly
in this performance of one of the most aclaimed portuguese guitar 
players, Pedro Caldeira Cabral, using tortoise shell nails
>
Joaquim


> On 07/07/2018, at 00:31, Ido Shdaimah  wrote:
> 
>   Hey, did a little research about the portuguese guitars. Players never
>   don't play directly with the finger tips, but with the nails. Even
>   then, many choose to use fingerpicks and not the natural nail.
>   These picks were traditionally chiseled from tortoiseshell, but are now
>   made from various plastics.
>   Hope this clears things up. I doubt it's healthy or practical to play
>   with the fingertips. Pretty sure that would cause scarring and abnormal
>   amounts of calluses, in turn making playing hard.
> 
>   On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 01:20 SW <[1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> 
> I play wire-strung instruments with the same technique as lute or
> early guitar. I mean lightly built, lightly strung instruments
> (English guitar, bandora etc) not modern heavily built instruments
> strung with the sort of wire that Batman's Joker uses to bring down
> airliners.
> On 6 July 2018, at 17:07, Tristan von Neumann
> <[2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
> How do you play on double metal strings?
> I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I
> almost
> got blisters...
> I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite
> some
> tension? What's Your technique?
> Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.:
>> Hi All,
>> after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I
> was
>> positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung
> instrument
>> is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
>> And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally
> surprised, that
>> I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a
> tiny and
>> cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left
> wrist
>> afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
>> G.
>> 
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>   2. mailto:tristanvonneum...@gmx.de
>   3. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[Ido Shdaimah]

   Hey, did a little research about the portuguese guitars. Players never
   don't play directly with the finger tips, but with the nails. Even
   then, many choose to use fingerpicks and not the natural nail.
   These picks were traditionally chiseled from tortoiseshell, but are now
   made from various plastics.
   Hope this clears things up. I doubt it's healthy or practical to play
   with the fingertips. Pretty sure that would cause scarring and abnormal
   amounts of calluses, in turn making playing hard.

   On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 01:20 SW <[1]s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:

 I play wire-strung instruments with the same technique as lute or
 early guitar. I mean lightly built, lightly strung instruments
 (English guitar, bandora etc) not modern heavily built instruments
 strung with the sort of wire that Batman's Joker uses to bring down
 airliners.
 On 6 July 2018, at 17:07, Tristan von Neumann
 <[2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:
 How do you play on double metal strings?
 I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I
 almost
 got blisters...
 I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite
 some
 tension? What's Your technique?
 Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.:
 >  Hi All,
 >  after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I
 was
 >  positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung
 instrument
 >  is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
 >  And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally
 surprised, that
 >  I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a
 tiny and
 >  cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left
 wrist
 >  afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
 >  G.
 >
 >  --
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 >
 > To get on or off this list see list information at
 > [3]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
 >

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[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[SW]

I play wire-strung instruments with the same technique as lute or early guitar. 
I mean lightly built, lightly strung instruments (English guitar, bandora etc) 
not modern heavily built instruments strung with the sort of wire that Batman's 
Joker uses to bring down airliners.

On 6 July 2018, at 17:07, Tristan von Neumann  wrote:

How do you play on double metal strings?

I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I almost 
got blisters...
I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite some 
tension? What's Your technique?


Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.:
> Hi All,
> after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was
> positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung instrument
> is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
> And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally surprised, that
> I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a tiny and
> cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left wrist
> afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
> G.
> 
> --
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> 

[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[G. C.]

   The portuguese guitar I listened to, was played virtuoso, both melodic
   and chordal. And yes, I bet the performer had some thick callouses. I
   was surprised to se that he used thumb in technique.
   G

   On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 8:51 PM, G. C. <[1]kalei...@gmail.com> wrote:

   Hi Tristan,
   the Yamaha guitalele G1 looks like a miniature 6 string guitar and is
   nylon strung. I have small hands, so "La compagna" worked just fine, as
   well as Poulton #73 or a Bach prelude. I gut an annoying wrist pain
   after extensive playing though which was rather dissapointing!
   G
   On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Tristan von Neumann
   <[2]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

 How do you play on double metal strings?
 I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I
 almost got blisters...
 I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite
 some tension? What's Your technique?
 Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.:

 Hi All,
 after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was
 positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung
 instrument
 is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
 And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally
 surprised, that
 I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a tiny
 and
 cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left wrist
 afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
 G.

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[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[G. C.]

   Hi Tristan,
   the Yamaha guitalele G1 looks like a miniature 6 string guitar and is
   nylon strung. I have small hands, so "La compagna" worked just fine, as
   well as Poulton #73 or a Bach prelude. I gut an annoying wrist pain
   after extensive playing though which was rather dissapointing!
   G
   On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Tristan von Neumann
   <[1]tristanvonneum...@gmx.de> wrote:

 How do you play on double metal strings?
 I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I
 almost got blisters...
 I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite
 some tension? What's Your technique?
 Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.:

 Hi All,
 after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was
 positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung
 instrument
 is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
 And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally
 surprised, that
 I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a tiny
 and
 cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left wrist
 afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
 G.

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[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[Tristan von Neumann]

How do you play on double metal strings?

I recently tried to play lute pieces on a 12 string guitar, but I almost 
got blisters...
I imagine on a small instrument the strings a thin and have quite some 
tension? What's Your technique?



Am 05.07.2018 um 23:04 schrieb G. C.:

Hi All,
after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was
positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung instrument
is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally surprised, that
I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a tiny and
cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left wrist
afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
G.

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[LUTE] Re: Portuguise gitar and Yamaha G1

[Jurgen Frenz]

There are interesting options with today's guitar technology. I use a Cordoba 
"mini" travel guitar for finding fingerings, writing tabs etc on my desk where 
I wouldn't like to take my lute because of reduced space and the too high 
humidity. That guitar with the a string length of 55cm comes with specially 
designed Aquila strings to tune it in A. I tune those strings down to 
renaissance tuning in G, the string tension is even more comfortable. Using the 
strap to suspend the guitar on me allows to use thumb out as well.

Best
Jurgen

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On 6 July 2018 4:04 AM, G. C.  wrote:

> ​​
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> after attending a concert including a portuguise guitar, I was
> 
> positively surprised to realise, that this rare metal strung instrument
> 
> is also traditionally played using the thumb-in technique!
> 
> And after aquiring a Yamaha G1 guitalele, I was equally surprised, that
> 
> I could play difficult lute pieces satisfactorily on such a tiny and
> 
> cheap instrument. (Getting a noticeable pain in the left wrist
> 
> afterwards though, which was quite a deception!)
> 
> G.
> 
> 
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> 
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