[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
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Dear friends,
this copy is the last page from a huge manuscript kept in the Rostock
Library with the designation D-ROu ms. Mus. Saec. XVII.18.54.
See also http://mss.slweiss.de
Best regards,
Peter Steur
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Da: Bernd Haegemann
Data: 29/06/2015 21:13:41
A: Thomas Walker; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Oggetto: [LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
On 29.06.2015 20:53, Bernd Haegemann wrote:
Dear Thomas,
please find the piece here:
http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/temp/SARAB_REMAJ_DUFAUT.jpg
It is a fax copy from a microfilm that I won from a descendant of Dufaut
in a petanque tournament in Saint-Remy-en Bouzemont. So I hope no
copyright violation?
B
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[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
Dear Thomas, please find the piece here: http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/temp/SARAB_REMAJ_DUFAUT.jpg ! Tuning . a d f# a d f# Amicalement Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
The CNRS edition has been out of print for ages and unfortunately they have no intention of reprinting it so I certainly don't feel guilty of infringing copyright law by offering to scan one page for a fellow lutenist for a music project! Best Matthew On 29 juin 2015, at 20:47, Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com wrote: Or, rather than violating international copyright law, you could try what musicians have done for centuries. Transcribe the piece. This should be easily done and is of great benefit in learning to play the piece musically. RA Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:38:41 -0500 To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: twlute...@hotmail.com Subject: [LUTE] a missing saraband Appealing to the Collective Wisdom: I've been working on some Dufault, and there's this lovely set of pieces in D Major...there are rather fewer of them in this key than in, say, C or F. I happened on Pascal Monteilhet's recording and lo and behold, heard a saraband in D major that doesn't turn up in CNRS or Doug Towne's extensive library. Can anyone point me to the source, or even a pdf of the piece that might be in public domain? Thanks, all! Tom Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
Talking of D Major tuning, quite a few really good pieces in Balcarres... Rob www.robmackillop.net On 29 Jun 2015, at 19:53, Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de wrote: Dear Thomas, please find the piece here: http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/temp/SARAB_REMAJ_DUFAUT.jpg ! Tuning . a d f# a d f# Amicalement Bernd To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
On 29.06.2015 20:53, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Dear Thomas, please find the piece here: http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/temp/SARAB_REMAJ_DUFAUT.jpg It is a fax copy from a microfilm that I won from a descendant of Dufaut in a petanque tournament in Saint-Remy-en Bouzemont. So I hope no copyright violation? B To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
Thanks all...such an embarrassment of riches we have in this community! I have, from your fast responses, facsimile and CNRS udpated editions (I'd forgotten about that one) from which to read. Okay, now to work! Thanks kindly, tom Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 21:05:03 +0200 To: twlute...@hotmail.com; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: b...@symbol4.de Subject: [LUTE] Re: a missing saraband On 29.06.2015 20:53, Bernd Haegemann wrote: Dear Thomas, please find the piece here: http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/temp/SARAB_REMAJ_DUFAUT.jpg It is a fax copy from a microfilm that I won from a descendant of Dufaut in a petanque tournament in Saint-Remy-en Bouzemont. So I hope no copyright violation? B To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
Dear Tom, The D Major sarabande is in the second, much enlarged edition of the CNRS (which a friend has kindly lent me) but not in the first (which the same friend kindly gave me!). The numbers used in the CNRS are given for each track on Pascal Monteilhet's CD (the D major sarabande is number 146 in the CNRS 2nd edition). I could probably scan it for you (but please contact me off-line). Best Matthew On 29 juin 2015, at 19:38, Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com wrote: Appealing to the Collective Wisdom: I've been working on some Dufault, and there's this lovely set of pieces in D Major...there are rather fewer of them in this key than in, say, C or F. I happened on Pascal Monteilhet's recording and lo and behold, heard a saraband in D major that doesn't turn up in CNRS or Doug Towne's extensive library. Can anyone point me to the source, or even a pdf of the piece that might be in public domain? Thanks, all! Tom Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
Agreed, Ron, not so much that I'm that supportive of copyright law in these cases, though I do see the point. However, I spent long hours in the library, way before digitization, copying anything I could find by hand. I learned a lot about the music, and feel I still know those pieces much more thoroughly than I do those obtained in quicker, more convenient fashion. Best to all, and keep playing. Chris. On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Ron Andrico [1]praelu...@hotmail.com wrote: Or, rather than violating international copyright law, you could try what musicians have done for centuries. Transcribe the piece. This should be easily done and is of great benefit in learning to play the piece musically. RA Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:38:41 -0500 To: [2]lute@cs.dartmouth.edu From: [3]twlute...@hotmail.com Subject: [LUTE] a missing saraband Appealing to the Collective Wisdom: I've been working on some Dufault, and there's this lovely set of pieces in D Major...there are rather fewer of them in this key than in, say, C or F. I happened on Pascal Monteilhet's recording and lo and behold, heard a saraband in D major that doesn't turn up in CNRS or Doug Towne's extensive library. Can anyone point me to the source, or even a pdf of the piece that might be in public domain? Thanks, all! Tom Walker -- To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- -- References 1. mailto:praelu...@hotmail.com 2. mailto:lute@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. mailto:twlute...@hotmail.com 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
Hello Bernd, it's funny : I have the same fax copy and I do not play petanque, as far as I know... ;-) Amities, Jean-Marie How ruthless these descendants of famous lute players can become! Another member of the list wrote to me in private that he bought the same tablature as Nostradamus' prediction of the Paris RER timetable in 2027. Regarding his description the seller was exactly the same person as my petanque opponent. As we used to say on HMS Dowland: o tempora o Morse! To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
Hello Bernd,
it's funny : I have the same fax copy and I do not play petanque, as
far as I know... ;-)
Amities,
Jean-Marie
Envoye depuis mon appareil Samsung
Message d'origine
De : Bernd Haegemann b...@symbol4.de
Date : 29/06/2015 21:05 (GMT+01:00)
A : Thomas Walker twlute...@hotmail.com, lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Objet : [LUTE] Re: a missing saraband
On 29.06.2015 20:53, Bernd Haegemann wrote:
Dear Thomas,
please find the piece here:
http://www.lute-academy.be/docstore/temp/SARAB_REMAJ_DUFAUT.jpg
It is a fax copy from a microfilm that I won from a descendant of
Dufaut
in a petanque tournament in Saint-Remy-en Bouzemont. So I hope no
copyright violation?
B
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