Nicolas Lebegue

2003-08-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear everybody, it has become clear now by Roman's kind assistence that the courante in question is indeed by Nicolas Lebegue (2nd book of harpsicord pieces, 1687, 1st suite). I am going to intabulate the whole suite so that it will soon be available at the related places. -- Best wishes,

Re: willow song

2003-09-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I believe you can find a facsimile at http://www.silvius.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/willow.jpg that link is not found there. What a pity. -- Cheers, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, Tel +49 - 421 - 165 49 97,

Re: Elizabethan pronunciation

2003-09-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
Stephan Olbertz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Dear list, yesterday I came across a page advertising a book called All the words on stage, which deals with the pronunciation of Shakespeare's English: http://makeashorterlink.com/?X23912A06 It would be nice to hear if anyone knows the book and

Re: willow song

2003-09-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Much of our knowledge of Shakespeare's text comes from later folios. I usually take it from the latest pages :) of today's critical editions, and I assume others do as well. My guess is that the actor found a simple melody to fit the song, and if it was

Re: Elizabethan pronunciation

2003-09-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
I should certainly refrain from recommending technical literature. As for me, any pronunciation dictionary is as good as the other, depending on the price. I appreciate the basics but do not want to go into details too much. E.g. I got my basic information about this subject from a general

Re: lute concert details

2003-10-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Rob, I am thunderstruck by your announcement. Wish I could be there, and I hope you'll return to these grounds one day. -- Best wishes, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, Tel +49 - 421 - 165 49 97, Fax +49 1805 060 334 480 67, e-mail:

Re: swan neck vs. bass rider

2003-10-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I'm not sure if swan neck lute is the best name for this lute, because it is, as far as I know (but maybe someone knows more) no historical name. does anybody know who brought up that name? Luise Gottsched refers to it as theorbierte Laute (theorbofied lute),

Re: swan neck vs. bass rider

2003-10-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi, Markus, thank you for looking up swan neck. I would not be surprised if someone came up with the discovery that the name was invented during 20th century for the sake of convenience, like stile brisee was named in the beginning of that century (but not in 17th). And how do you interpret

Re: swan neck vs. bass rider

2003-10-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
Markus Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: how do you interpret the sentence he can be called the Father of the lute? He changed the lute from 11 to 13 courses and he theorbified it - what else should this mean, that he was responsible for this changes. I take her statement the way I take St

Besard / Isagoge

2003-10-18 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear collected wisdom, does somebody happen to know the tuning of the lute-trios required in Besard's Isagoge? -- Best wishes, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, T/F +49 - 421 - 165 49 97, Fax +49 1805 060 334 480 67, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: reading Gallot....

2003-10-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Bernd, A mi la bmol is another designation of A minor, as you will have guessed. Bmol is added to make sure the scale with minor 3rd is used. As to hexachord, the tone A is Mi (3rd tone of the scale) of the hexachordum molle (F-D) and at the same time La (6th tone of the scale) of the

Re: OT: Why was the K'berg MS stolen?

2003-11-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Just a question: What about Jiddish? I've learnt it would be exactly the same than the Mittelhochdeutsch and would be nearly unchanged for about 800 years? it is a branch which has, in fact, retained many a form of medieval German. Yiddish, however,

Re: Latin translation

2003-11-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
To my most illustrious and venerable lord, the lord Christophorus Madrucius, Cardinal and Prince of Trient and adminstrator of Brescia, my most dear lord It was an old farmers' custom, most illustrious Prince, to spend the first fruits to those Deities who would take care for them, as was

Re: chilesotti #55

2003-11-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
WIWO [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: hi, i need translation-help for the beautiful song from chilesotti #55: a caso un giorno mi guido la sorte in un bosco di quercie ombroso e spesso ove giacea un pastor ferito a morte zufaellig fuehrte mich eines Tages das Schicksal in einen schattigen

Re: fretted ud - another Arabic translation

2003-11-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Michael, thank you for those suggestions! You are right, the letter waw is not to be linked to the following letter (which, btw, excludes such readings like dhufoor, pl. of dhafr, girdle, belt). I was well aware of that. Like you, I was pondering about possible readings and sensible

Re: fretted ud - another Arabic translation

2003-11-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: But I think that may be the limit, so far as I know there are no musical transcriptions available in Cuneiform. well, there are :) BTW, has the Arabic retained its form and vocabulary since the times of those pictures? yes, is has retained them.

Re: Mace's tuning

2003-11-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Mace preferred so-called flat tuning for his 12c lute: f' - d' - b-flat - g - d - A - G - F - E - D - C - B-flat/A. Pitch is nominal, of course. In his Musick's Monument, he also included one suite for D minor tuning, though. Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: What was the tuning of

Re: Assorted Questions

2003-12-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
It occurred to me that Hans Judenkunig might have been a converted Jew (my somewhat elderly 'Grove' has nothing to say about his origins). Hans Bahlow, Deutsches Namenlexikon, 1992 (15,000 entries), p. 265, explains that Jud may have been Jewish or non-Jewish. As for non-Jewish, Jud as well

Re: Lute Questions

2003-12-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 2) Chromatic fingering. Guitarists are taught to have one finger per fret - to use the 1st finger for the 1st fret, the 2nd finger for the 2nd fret, I'm generalising, of course, but my experience is that lute players tend to use their little finger

Re: Minestra di corde

2003-12-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
Leonard Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Is there any nutritional value at all in gut strings or frets? I know pets are interested in them. Any harmful chemicals introducued in the manufacture of the strings? That is not only for fun. I was seriously told to thoroughly clean my

Re: binary and ternary GIGUES

2003-12-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
Arthur Ness (boston) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: (I think colieren [kolorieren] means ornamented, here. colieren in German means to take special care of, cherish (hegen, pflegen). Nothing to do with colour (but with cult). -- Regards, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199

Re: binary and ternary GIGUES

2003-12-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
Arthur Ness (boston) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: (I think colieren [kolorieren] means ornamented, here. colieren in German means to take special care of, cherish (hegen, pflegen). Nothing to do with colour (but with cult). spelled with K, kolieren means to strain a liquid through a thin

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon, read it again and, if you got one, compare it with what your textbook has to say. It's a storm in a teapot, blended with some misinfomation. Seems like a x-mas joke. Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: A serious question, the matter of the attribution of the Gregorian chant. And I

Re: OT, but maybe interesting

2003-12-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/inhalt/1/0,1872,2084833,00.html http://www.gregorianik-forschung.de/downloads/ksta-030625-b.pdf http://www.gregorianik-forschung.de/institut.htm founding a new institute in order to spread

Re: Italiana

2004-01-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
LGS-Europe [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Can somebody point me to the source of Respighi's lute arrangements? I'm specifically looking for the charming piece called 'Italiana': r r a | | ___ d d r | d arda| ___ d d d | a | ___ a a r | a |

RE: reading Gallot....

2004-01-08 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Charles, La Princesse by Mouton clearly is in A minor and is thus designated in Barbe ms. Also, on Lislevand's CD it is in the A minor section; so, his designation as A major obviously is a typo. As for ms. Barbe, you will perhaps have guessed already that the endings 3b or 3#, respectively,

Re: reading Gallot....

2004-01-09 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon, there are three different names that are often mixed up: modes Greek names of modes keys Mode in strict sense refers to melodic patterns of medieval music and is also called tone. Modes or tones, respectively, were usually numbered. First and second tones refer to Re, third and fourth to

Re: Electronic Tuners

2004-01-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I use Korg AT1. It permits some calibration, but my 13c sounds best at 440. I was just wondering if people tune their Baroque lutes at 440. How many other people do? How many at a lower pitch? 415 because, first, I do not it play in ensemble (not loud

Re: The likeness of John Dowland

2004-02-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: There I am out of my area, I don't know what you are speaking of in diminutions (I would have thought of that as a matter of volume or speed). Diminuitions, or divisions, is a kind of ornamenting a melodic line by splitting or dividing it into rows of

Re: more fingers needed

2004-03-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: (baroque lute, French mid 17th cent.) Is there a standard way to play a chord like _c_ _a_ _b_ _c_ ___ ___ a e.g. in Gallot 1670, or Mouton 1698, you'll find this with 2nd through 4th courses played by a raking forefinger, and the 1st

Re: more fingers needed

2004-03-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
Vance Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The index finger will usually come down after the ring finer has played the last note in the four note sequence Gaultier 1669 and Gallot 1670 as well as Mouton 1698 both teach sth. else, i.e. playing from lowest to highest note. According to them, you would

Re: more fingers needed

2004-03-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: course and rake 4 to 1 backhand, probably with ring, middle and index in the Spanish move that I can't spell (rasquillado?). rasguado, I suppose. Mathias, is that raking forefinger going down from 2 to 4, or backhanded up from 4 to 2? the way I'm used

Re: 5th course: octave or unison?

2004-03-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
May I add that on the mandora with its hey-days in Bohemia around 1700-1780, octave strings were required on 4th through 6th courses. That way, also baroque guitar music can be played on the mandora. The guitar's re-entrant tuning is, so to say, half-way achieved by the mandora's octave stringing.

Re: Continuo Question

2004-03-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: In a minor key, I'm not entirely sure what to do with the V chord. so am I because unless there is a 5 sign for the 5th above the tonic you cannot even be sure it is a fundamental chord or an inversion. There might be required a 6th instead of a 5th,

Re: Continuo Question

2004-03-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The simplistic solution is to look to the family of C major (and I have an advantage as a lever harpist as as I am fixed in a diatonic scale once I set the levers for the key signature - unless I flip during the piece). The relative minor of C is A (as you

Re: Life, the universe...

2004-03-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
So why do we allow ourselves to be beguiled by ideas of a golden past? I don't. I just like the music. well, many lutenist amateurs of my wider acquaintance do. Sporting tablatures they cannot actually play from, owning lutes they prefer to look at instead of sounding them, arguing about

Re: Life, the universe...

2004-03-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Ah, yes, what are the things that give us versimilitude? that was the word, thank you very much. There is actually nothing wrong with (to repeat my points so offensive) owning tabs you cannot properly play from, looking at, rather than playing, a lute or

Re: Thoroughbass Playing ...

2004-03-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
Tim Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I was wondering if the Baroque Lute D minor tuning is/was ever used for Bass Continuo playing? see Fundamenta der Lautenmusique, available from the German Lute Society. http://www.lautengesellschaft.de It is an earl 18th century continuo playing tutor for

Re: Thoroughbass Playing ...

2004-03-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
Markus Lutz [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: As listener I have made the - to me surprising - experience that a baroque lute in a not too small church was heard quite well in a chamber ensemble. what did they play (music)? Exspectingly in the duo with the cembalo the lute could be heard even

Re: Continuing Continuo

2004-03-27 Thread Mathias Rösel
The only intabulated continuo I know of is a collection of lute parts for arias by Hasse, called *14 Stueck Hassische Opern Arien* (from Cleofide), preserved in Leipzig (Mus. ms. III.11.46a). It has been written for 13c D minor lute. The 1st course is used, so, it is probably not intended for the

Re: Divisions and hexachords ?

2004-03-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Peter ans Stewart, thank you for tipping on this topic. Harmonic thinking certainly is a way to explain things, but just as certainly not the only one. If you say, Stewart, the composer chose or avoided this or that tone because of possible resulting harmonies, you would have to assume the

Re: Rumania and Harnoncourt

2004-04-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Manolo, in Germany, that collection of compositions by Harnoncourt was published, I think, as lately as 1985. Then, I was 21 and still tried to save money for my first baroque lute (got it ten years later). To me, it was the great time of research and discoveries when you could immediately

Re: Final results of poll.

2004-04-05 Thread Mathias Rösel
Stravinski or Stravinsky, that is the question ;) Herbert Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 0.04 Stravinsky XXX 0.04 Sibelius XXX 0.04Satie XXX 0.04 Regondi XXX 0.04Ravel XXX 0.04 Moussorsky XXX 0.04

Re: Acrimony in pop music.

2004-04-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: David, you haven't given is sufficient thought, we are talking different things. Relationships between composers and hired musicians are not the same thing as a relationship within a cooperative, such as RR band. apparently, what it's all about is the

Bibliographie

2004-04-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
Paolo Declich [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I got a copy of his Musik als Klangrede only some three years ago. Boy, what an exciting book. Ever translated in English? see http://perso.wanadoo.fr/mandarine/bibliographie.htm -- Best wishes, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5,

Greetings

2004-04-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear collected wisdom, sEASonal greeTing to evERybody whom it concerns! May your days be bright! -- Best wishes, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, T/F +49 - 421 - 165 49 97, Fax +49 1805 060 334 480 67, E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi everybody, I thought it would be easy to find a file of Francesco's Spagna duet in Fronimo or in TAB. However, I couldn't find one available. Could somebody please help? -- Best, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, T/F +49 - 421 - 165 49 97,

Re: This is what I've found out....

2004-04-21 Thread Mathias Rösel
Aabrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The summary of it all is: It's from the late 1800's. Made in Markneukirchen or Mittenwald. It is a Wanderlaute, Waldelaute, = or Guitarrlaute (luteguitar and no makers label). i.e. wandervogellaute (young folks, roaming though the woods, called thermselves

Re: Fw:

2004-04-22 Thread Mathias Rösel
Aabrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: .. I may be misled in this case, but I have never seen anything like = this in such an instrument. The upper pegheads of theorboed Guitars = were sometimes equipped with supporting bars, but lutes? it was quite commen, nevertheless. Many pictures in

Re: Shape note

2004-05-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
would you please announce it before you're going to be kidding so that others (me, that is) can get it ;) MR Tony Chalkley [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Don't know how it is lute-related. Because, fortunately, we don't always think in straight lines. As Craig said, we call this overtone

Re: Stupid Query

2004-05-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Chris, sorry I put it equivocal. What I meant to say is that I go to a store every three months or so and buy an especially non-skid, or non-slip, cloth actually made for window cleaning. The fabric, however, is a kind of rubber, not chamoix or another sort of leather. So, squeegee (Jon) comes

Re: Spagna/Francesco

2004-04-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Stephan, by what you wrote I am a little puzzled, I must confess. Okay, let's have another attempt. Contrapunto (could also be called treble or division) is the single line with a lot of fast notes. Tenor is the steady-going three-part accompaniment for another lute. The tenor line called La

Re: Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Four years ago this time, Andrew Hartig, Dana Emery, Gail Gillespie and others talked about this topic on the list. It is, I hope with their permission that I re-post their postings. Thanks a lot to Goeran who remembered! From: Andrew Hartig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: Top two single courses

2004-05-02 Thread Mathias Rösel
bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I am about re-convert this 11 course into a small theorbized lute with single basses. which purpose do you pursue? Will it be a tuorbe after Mersenne's description? Or what do you intend to do with it? No one in this thread has discussed the evolution of

Re: Stupid Query

2004-05-03 Thread Mathias Rösel
Every now and then I go and get myself a new rubber for window cleaning as the old one has become to dry, dusty, and slippery. I put it between my belly and the lute's belly so that we both have rest :) -- Best wishes, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/

Re: Spagna / Francesco (fwd)

2004-04-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
---Ursprüngliche Nachricht--- From: G.R. Crona [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Spagna / Francesco Dear Mathias, my memory wasn't too far off :) The tune must have been a very well known cantus firmus. a search on my antiquated PC gave the following: 1. Cavalcanti=similar to Francesco 2. Siena:

Re: Spagna / Francesco

2004-04-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
Hi Stephan, thanks for that additional point. I'm sorry to say you misunderstood my point, though. The melody, as you say, i.e. the contrapunto / counterpoint (division) does _not_ include the cantus firmus of La Spagna. The cantus firmus of La Spagna has been embedded into the tenor which is,

Re: Bruxelles

2004-05-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
Try also the Belgian Museum of Musical Instruments Villa Hermosastraat 1 Phone +32 2 545 01 46 http://mim.fgov.be Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Mus. des Beaux Arts, look in particular for Constant Permeke, and a very unique piece by Adolphe Monticelli, aside from usual Flemish

Re: Bruxelles

2004-05-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
sorry, correct url is http://www.mim.fgov.be Belgian Museum of Musical Instruments Villa Hermosastraat 1 Phone +32 2 545 01 46 I would appreciate your recommendations for a stay in Bruxelles (Brussels) , whether lutistical (on the list) or not (private). Thank you! Bernd Haegemann

Re: Mute (off topic)

2004-05-31 Thread Mathias Rösel
oh, there we are, again. I use my delete key for threads that turn out to be SOAP (Sore Opinions About Politics). -- Best, though Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, T/F +49 - 421 - 165 49 97, Fax +49 1805 060 334 480 67, E-Mail: [EMAIL

Re: Tempo / Performance speed

2004-06-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: i've found that slower is better. a question of individual taste i suppose but stately play without forcing the volume sounds right. my experience, too. OTOH, this way forces you to precisely keep up with the beat, i.e. more precisely than with more speed.

Re: Tempo / Performance speed

2004-06-11 Thread Mathias Rösel
bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: what does otoh and voice leading mean? sorry, abreviations are a disease, too. I've come to learn that OTOH means On The Other Hand. Voice-leading is the way parts or voices of a piece are led (going up or down, or repeating a tone). It is conditioned by the

Re: Schütz

2004-06-29 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: could give a hint to those of us who don't have much experience with continuo playing. When playing continuo, I for one prefer to keep LH close to the nut, i.e. 1st or 2nd position, instead of going up as far as 4th or 5th position. Otherwise, I'm

Re: help me - what to buy???

2004-07-19 Thread Mathias Rösel
David Cassetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have posted a sound sample (amateur, cheap mikes) and picture of this lute. http://www.users.qwest.net/~leocassetti/lute.jpg (You can actually see the copper wire to the left of the nut). nice picture, thank you (I shall add it to my

Re: dear collected wisdom

2004-08-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
Once, I happened to be in Heidelberg on Nov 10 when famous Klezmer musician Giora Feidman attended the memorial service. He stood up and took his clarinet. I think I expected him to play some mournful Klezmer niggun, however, he sounded it three times like a shofar, and that was it. That was all

Ja kob Kremberg

2004-08-08 Thread Mathias Rösel
Can somebody, please, help me get access to Jakob Kremberg's Musicalische Gemuethsergoetzung (Dresde 1689)? -- Best, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/ Germany, T/F +49 - 421 - 165 49 97, Fax +49 1805 060 334 480 67, E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

RE: HIN (Historical Informed Naming)

2004-08-30 Thread Mathias Rösel
Anthony Glass [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: This raises an interesting point--why do we so often refer to certain Renaissance artists (and others I'm sure) by their forenames? After all, who ever heard of Buonarroti's David? Sure, you read about the da Vinci Code, but his artworks are at least

Re: hip

2004-08-31 Thread Mathias Rösel
Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: while i take baroque lute music to mean anything played during the baroque period on anything from the lute related family, You really shouldn't. Imagine: you are on a Bentley list. What response would you get on a Ford Pinto question (both are cars,

Re: charango as vihuela

2004-09-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
May I ask what this discussion aims at? When you'll have found out the charango has, or has not, developed from the vihuela, what will you do with it? Does the charango need noble ;) ancestors? If I were in your place and had comprable love for the charango, I think I wouldn't hesitate to play

MIDI driver

2004-09-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear netters, since in my Fronimo MIDI rendition doesn't work, I've found that my PC (running under Win98) is missing special drivers, which are named ALS 100 Logical Device 1 Internal MIDI (OPL3) Device, ALS 100 Logical Device 3 External MIDI (MPU 401) Device, Both were produced by Avance

Re MIDI driver

2004-09-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Francesco, Mark, Roman, Tony, thank you very much for everything! I downloaded the drivers and unzipped them but, alas, it didn't work. Don't know exactly why. I'm looking forward to getting rid of this old mill of mine. Only had to get it going last week because of an emergency of my

Re: dear collected wisdom

2004-09-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Schall [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: very charming. But funny that la li Lu, a setting I made for Wayne's site years ago - found it's way into this collection. It's a lullaby and actually taken from a german movie of the 30s - dangerous ground in this context ... La li lu, nur der Mann

Re: Bakfark

2004-09-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
Haven't heard this of Bakfark, but on a famous post-mortem-engraving of Weiss the inscription reads Es soll nur Sylvius die Laute spielen (Sylvius alone shall play the lute), a quote from a poem. Also, I've somewhere read a description of Count Logy's final hour, when Logy ordered all of his

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-09-19 Thread Mathias Rösel
Herbert Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Given that lutenists' musical literature was contemporary with these paintings, perhaps one may ask here how a modern person can understand the esthetics which produced these paintings. I shall make a cautious attempt. Please, note: not a sermon, but

Re: Old religious paintings.

2004-09-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
Herbert Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: But, no modern depiction of Jesus emphasizes Him as a nude man-baby. For example, I doubt that modern Baptists have a nude in any of their churches. .. address this difference in style and taste between 2004 and 1570, an understanding of which might, I

Re: Bakfark

2004-09-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
Tadeusz Czechak [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 1.It is still a proverb in Poland , but not commonly used , as now only a few poeple know who was Bakfark . You may hear it rather from the poeple involved with literature , poetry, culture etc. Yes, indeed. I asked a Polish friend of mine. She is a

Re: Pinel Gigue

2004-10-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
Bernd Haegemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: the Gigue (No.81) [taken from Schwerin 641] is called an Allemande in all of the 6 concordances. Hm. What could have been the reason for the editors to accept the minority vote? don't know about the editors' mindset, but one thing is certain: There

RE: Old religious paintings.

2004-10-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
Spring, aus dem, Rainer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I think it's u-declination. Therefore the plural is Jesus with a long u. It isn't. In Hebrew / Aramaic, it is Yeshu, with both long and closed e and u (like in French nee and in English zoo). It is not certain which syllable was stressed

Re: Baroque recommendations

2004-10-23 Thread Mathias Rösel
Ed Durbrow mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Also, if you can find the Geisbert (sp?) book progresses from beginner on to a Weiss suite. sadly enough, there is no Weiss in Giesbert's method. The last chapter has Bach's suite in G minor BWV 995, intabulated by Giesbert. Nevertheless that

Re: Scarlatti for 10-course lute

2004-10-31 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Schall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Martin also has sent some music by S.L.Weiss set for 10-course renaissance lute. brilliant idea, I'd say. Make it accessible for the majority, finally. -- Best, Mathias Mathias Roesel, Grosze Annenstrasze 5, 28199 Bremen, Deutschland/

Re: Rubato and rolling chords - Milan

2004-11-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
Stewart McCoy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: My other thought concerns the mode. Why should the player need to know the mode, if all the notes are there in front of him? Is it because there is a mood associated with each mode? Knowing the mode would then give the player information on the

Re: Brescianello and the colascione

2004-11-08 Thread Mathias Rösel
Patrick H mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have been listening to a CD of works by Giuseppe Antonio Brescianello by guitarist Anthony Glise (which is great, by the way), but I am intersted in the instrument that Brescianello wrote for, the colascione. The pieces I have found work

Re: Brescianello and the colascione

2004-11-08 Thread Mathias Rösel
Patrick H mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have been listening to a CD of works by Giuseppe Antonio Brescianello by guitarist Anthony Glise (which is great, by the way), but I am intersted in the instrument that Brescianello wrote for, the colascione. The pieces I have found work really

Re: Brescianello and the colascione

2004-11-08 Thread Mathias Rösel
Patrick H mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I have been listening to a CD of works by Giuseppe Antonio Brescianello by guitarist Anthony Glise (which is great, by the way), but I am intersted in the instrument that Brescianello wrote for, the colascione. The pieces I have found work really

Re: thoughts on low tension on Baroque lutes

2004-11-20 Thread Mathias Rösel
Edward Martin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: usual practice at the time. If one tries to do this on a baroque lute strung conventionally as we string them in our modern times, the results are a harsh, brittle sound, because playing way back on the bridge, gives us entirely too much

Re: Wire strings

2004-11-26 Thread Mathias Rösel
Bonnie Shaljean mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I do not feel like joining the legions of people who seem to fight with you. come on, please. Wire harps WERE in existence in early Ireland and Scotland, whether you like it or not. The 14th century does qualify was early. they had

Re: flamenco

2004-12-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
Roman Turovsky mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: ..And I think the driving ostinato of O Death, Rock me Asleepe is a clear precursor to the gloom-and-doom death metal of the early 1970s as pioneered by Black Sabbath. E http://www.sabbatum.com/sound?sess=f4b25a12a907666261a78bfae1b60920

Re: beard

2004-12-13 Thread Mathias Rösel
Until some three years ago I tried to look like Denis Gaultier (on that sole fab pic by what's-his-name) in terms of hair-dressing. Then, a girl friend of mine said, Mathias du sieht scheisze aus so (no translation available). Which changed my mind. No long hair any longer, and no beard nor

Re: Very nice LSA Quarterly!

2004-12-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
YES! INDEED! Mathias Arto Wikla mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Dear lutenists, yesterday I got my copy of the LSA Quarterly XXXIX, No. 4. It was a very nice surprise: about 70 lute arrangemants of Christmas and winter holiday pieces! It will be very useful! Many thanks to LSA,

Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Very nice LSA Quarterly!

2004-12-15 Thread Mathias Rösel
Roman Turovsky mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] am 15.12.2004 15:25:27 Lets not waste time on cheese. And instead lets possibly prepare a similar Easter issue (even electronic). I don't care if we offend a Muslim or 2 in the process. there should be nothing wrong with Easter (resurrection) for

Re: A Movie

2004-12-16 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon Murphy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I commend you to the film Master and Commander. It is drawn from the novels of the late Patrick O'Brian which I've enjoyed over the years. The film, ..snip a horrible would-be, and no lutes in it. So what? -- Mathias -- To get on or off this

Re: Beards - conclusion

2004-12-19 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Stewart, may I add that I did say. Until two years ago, I had a Gaultier-beard and matching long hair. Then came along a girl friend of mine who radically changed my modes. So, for now you should count me as clean-shaven :^) Stewart McCoy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Dear All, The

Weiss-duets

2004-12-23 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear everybody, does somebody here happen to know about _access_ (microfilm, paper copies, Fronimo files) to the volume of duets by Weiss in Dresden that was not published in facsimile (GDR-Zentralantiquariat)? A friend of mine asked me to forward his question. He is planning to play a recital

Re: odd fret pattern

2004-12-24 Thread Mathias Rösel
Roger E. Blumberg mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: here's a page on saz. Notice these all have butt-ports complete with rosette -- like those 9th century Carolingian Psalter cytharas seem to have (rear ports, trumpeted or not). http://www.rainbowcrystal.com/music/music7.html I guess that

Re: Vio-print

2004-12-28 Thread Mathias Rösel
Jon Murphy mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The mandocello is larger mandolin. The sequence in size is mandolin, mandora, mandocello, mandobass. mandolino, mandola, mandolone, rather. mandoloncello would then be a small mandolone. mandora is something else. My new charango (which Bill tells

Re: lute on ebay

2005-01-04 Thread Mathias Rösel
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: while lurking on ebay I found this instrument - don't know if it's worth the money (and don't profit from forwarding this offer) but maybe someone is interested http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3773134797#ebayphotohosting that lute has been

Re: Nylgut

2005-01-12 Thread Mathias Rösel
yes, indeed, I entirely agree. Denys Stephens mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Dear Mimmo, Just a note to say that I have been using Nylgut on my lutes for two years and I love the sound it brings out of the instruments. For me it gives everything I want from a lute string. So thank you

Re: Gianoncelli ornaments 1650

2005-01-17 Thread Mathias Rösel
Dear Andrea, martellement is what I had in mind, indeed. What I was trying to say was that French ornaments don't necessarily start from auxiliary notes. Although using differing signs, Gallot and Mouton agree that the martellement starts from the main note. (Harpsicordists like Francois Couperin

Re: new pieces for lute - Zamboni

2005-02-06 Thread Mathias Rösel
Thomas Schall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Actually Zamboni is flat and very simple music (often not much more than simple I-IV-V). Very entertaining but not comparable in any kind to the music of Weiss okay, let's leave it there. I don't feel like discussing religion here. --

Re: new pieces for lute - Zamboni

2005-02-07 Thread Mathias Rösel
Markus Lutz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: As far as I can see in the booklet of the recording of Zamboni suites by Luciano Contini, the biographical dates of Zamboni seem to be very unsure. The only thing that is known is that He was from 1707 to 1713 contra bass player in Rome after

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