[LUTE] Re: OP

2018-02-19 Thread Matthew Daillie
I tend to think that parallels can be drawn between the use of period pronunciation and temperaments. It would be unthinkable for most early keyboard players today to perform the repertoire of Cabezon, de Macque, the English virginalists, Louis Couperin or Bach in equal temperament; they would

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
I have heard [lu:v] before - in the TV series "Misfits"... The character is a white trash girl with a thick accent... I don't know exactly where this is coming from today, maybe a British native can explain. Am 18.02.2018 um 23:55 schrieb Dmitry Medvedev: A recording of English lute songs by

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Dmitry Medvedev
A recording of English lute songs by Charles Daniels and Nigel North comes to mind. But, interestingly, there are certain differences between Daniels' pronunciation and David Crystal's theory. For example, 'love' is sung as [lu:v], and 'move' / 'remove' are sung close to modern pronunciation

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread lsa
At the 1982 LSA Seminar, the late Richard Jensen gave a presentation, "Pronunciation of Elizabethan English," with examples sung by Mary Beverley. A cassette tape is available for sale to LSA members (#T-6). But one of my future projects is to post an mp3 of this, and the other lectures given

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Rainer
On 18.02.2018 19:31, Martin Shepherd wrote: Hi All, The latest luteshop blog treats a subject which many of us find difficult and interesting: http://luteshop.co.uk/its-not-just-what-you-say-its-how-you-say-it/ This reminds me of Goethe's accent. Goethe was born in Frankfurt and

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Tristan von Neumann
Thanks Martin! I have been wondering when "OP" singers would appear on the stage :) I have a few questions: * are there any OP singers of Lute song? It seems if there were, you would have included a video... * how did Dowland perform his songs in for example Wolfenbüttel? Or did he just play

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Jacob Johnson
I'm sorry, the IPA symbols seem to have gotten messed up! Rs were mostly pronounced as alveolar approximants (the "pirate" R) in Elizabethan London, as opposed to alveolar trills or alveolar taps. Jacob Johnson [uc?export=downloadid=0B6_gM3BRE6ZrYVVZZU5QNmJqdDQrevid=0B6_g

[LUTE] Re: OP for lute songs?

2018-02-18 Thread Jacob Johnson
Thank you Martin! This is a subject in which I'm very interested. It's just terribly unfortunate that Ben and David Crystal decided to call it "Original Pronunciation"-- it smacks so much of "Authentic Performance" that I'd much rather hear "OP" called "historically informed