On Sunday, 20 January 2019 7:24:33 AM AEDT Andrew Luke Nesbit via luv-main 
wrote:
> On 08/01/2019 20:34, Russell Coker wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 9 January 2019 7:25:35 AM AEDT Andrew Luke Nesbit via
> > luv-main> 
> >> Do you mind if I ask you what your backup regime is?  I often ask
> >> people when the topic comes up because it's such an important thing.
> >> I'm always interested in potentially improving my knowledge and
> >> practice.
> > 
> > Firstly I use BTRFS or ZFS for everything that matters.  The first stage
> > of
> > backup is filesystem snapshots, that covers the most common restore case
> > of
> > "oops I deleted the wrong file".
> 
> Thank you for explaining this to me/us.  I have been thinking about what
> you wrote in the hope that the penny would drop, but no such luck so far...
> 
> Are you saying that the snapshot _itself_ is literally the first-stage
> backup?

Yes.

> > Next I rsync files to a disk with a BTRFS filesystem and use BTRFS
> > snapshots on that for multiple backups (going back months or years as
> > most files don't change much).
> 
> Are the files you rsync to the disk with Btrfs are the snapstop files
> you mentioned earlier?  Or regular files in the "working portion" of the
> main disk/array/NAS?

The snapshot files.  If you rsync from the files that are writable you risk 
getting inconsistent sets of files, EG a compiled executable with a version of 
the source that doesn't match and you also risk inconsistency internally to 
files (EG databases in use and filesystem images that are mounted or being 
used in VMs).

> > Some of those disks with backups are stored offsite.
> 
> How do you make this decision, and how is this implemented?

When I feel like it, or when I'm visiting a relative who has a safe to put 
them in.  I don't have the type of answer you probably expected.

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