+1

Let's see if anyone can provide a response to Dominique's question.
Otherwise, I agree it would be better not to add the DSME text.

Best regards,

Carles


> Dear Carles,
>
> From my reading of 15.4e-2012, I reckon the text you suggest on DSME is
> technically correct, and I second it.
> At the meeting in Dallas, I was also asking about the commercial
> significance of DSME.
> Does anybody know of equipment on the market today or under development
> that uses DSME? Just out of curiosity.
> I would think that those of this group that also go to 802.15 meetings
> would know who the forces behind DSME are, and what their intentions are.
> If we were to establish that DSME is not going to be used after all, at
> least not with an IP protocol stack, then adding the text that describes
> DSME in this draft would be a moot point.
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Dominique
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Carles Gomez Montenegro [mailto:carle...@entel.upc.edu]
> Envoyé : mercredi 1 avril 2015 15:15
> À : BARTHEL Dominique IMT/OLPS
> Cc : lwip@ietf.org; Jens Toftgaard Petersen (j...@rtx.dk); van de Logt,
> Marco <marco.van-de-l...@gigaset.com> (marco.van-de-l...@gigaset.com);
> Zach Shelby <zach.she...@arm.com> (zach.she...@arm.com); Peter Mariager
> (p...@rtx.dk)
> Objet : RE: [Lwip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient-02.txt
>
> Dear Dominique,
>
> Great, thanks a lot for your offer to provide the section on DECT-ULE!
>
> By the way, please let us know whether your request in Dallas to add text
> on the DSME mode of 15.4 would be satisfied by prepending the following
> text to the current last paragraph/sentence of 3.5.3:
>
>    Another relevant 802.15.4e mode is the Deterministic and Synchronous
>    Multi-channel Extension (DSME). This mode improves the CFP
> functionality
>    in IEEE 802.15.4 by extending the number of time slots that can be
>    reserved for contentionless data transmission, and allowing the use of
>    frequency channel diversity (note that TSCH offers similar
>    functionality). DSME also favors the formation of beacon-enabled
>    multihop networks. DSME defines a structure by which the beacon
> interval
>    comprises a number of multi-superframes. Each one of the latter
>    comprises a number of superframes. Each superframe in DSME may contain
> a
>    CAP interval and must contain at least one CFP interval. As in TSCH
>    mode, during unscheduled CFP time slots, nodes may keep their radio in
>    inactive mode to save energy.
>
> I believe once we add the text on DSME and the section on DECT-ULE, and
> after applying some further typo corrections, we will be ready for
> submitting a -03.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carles
>
>
>
>> Dear Carles, WG,
>>
>> As I mentioned during the meeting in Dallas, we would like to add a
>> section 3.5.x on DECT-ULE.
>> We will provide text within about a week.
>> With best regards,
>>
>> Dominique
>>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : Lwip [mailto:lwip-boun...@ietf.org] De la part de Carles Gomez
>> Montenegro Envoyé : samedi 7 mars 2015 16:53 À : lwip@ietf.org Objet :
>> Re: [Lwip] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient-02.txt
>>
>> Dear WG,
>>
>> As you have seen, version -02 of draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient is
>> now available.
>>
>> The main changes are:
>>
>>   - The feedback collected during IETF'91 is now incorporated into the
>>     document (mainly in subsection 6.2).
>>
>>   - The "Cross Layer Optimization" section has been removed.
>>
>>   - Subsections 3.3 and 3.4 have been added.
>>
>>   - A new paragraph has been added in Subsection 3.5.1.
>>
>>   - Other minor technical changes throughout the document.
>>
>>   - Editorial improvements.
>>
>>
>> I would like to ask for a 15-min slot in Dallas to present this update.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Carles
>>
>>
>>
>>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>> directories.
>>>  This draft is a work item of the Light-Weight Implementation
>>> Guidance Working Group of the IETF.
>>>
>>>         Title           : Energy Efficient Implementation of IETF
>>> Constrained Protocol Suite
>>>         Authors         : Zhen Cao
>>>                           Carles Gomez
>>>                           Matthias Kovatsch
>>>                           Hui Tian
>>>                           Xuan He
>>>     Filename        : draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient-02.txt
>>>     Pages           : 19
>>>     Date            : 2015-03-07
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>    This document summarizes the problems and current practices of
>>> energy
>>>    efficient protocol implementation on constrained devices, mostly
>>>    about how to make the protocols within IETF scope behave energy
>>>    friendly.  This document also summarizes the impact of link layer
>>>    protocol power saving behaviors to the upper layer protocols, so
>>> that
>>>    they can coordinately make the system energy efficient.
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient/
>>>
>>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient-02
>>>
>>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-lwig-energy-efficient-02
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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