Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Henry Nelson wrote: I think I saw somewhere that the gettext tools (what you want if you're going to get into translating the messages) had been ported to Windows, but unfortunately I don't have the slightest idea how they work on Windows. The MingW version of lynx which I have been porting (but not yet distributing) is compiled with NLS and seems to work fine. I linked it with gettext-0.11.5 which I ported to MingW last year. I generally compile MingW programs under Cygwin with -mno-cygwin and don't have any experience with the native MingW MSYS environment. I see from the MingW web page that there is an official port of gettext to mingw. I haven't looked to see if what I did matched that port or not. At least with the version I am using, you specify the environment variable LYNX_LOCALEDIR unless the locale directory is the same as the default compiled into gettext. The utilities (msgfmt and xgettext) work the same as on unix, but when building under Cygwin for MingW, the Cygwin utilities are used to make the .gmo files. Just specify the LANG and possibly the LANGUAGE environment variables and lynx uses the lynx.mo file installed in the $LYNX_LOCALEDIR/$LANG/LC_MESSAGES directory. I am happy to send the patch file that I used for porting gettext to anyone interested. For a Cygwin build of lynx, gettext is part of the Cygwin system and should work out of the box. I haven't built a pure Cygwin lynx since 2.8.5pre.3 in February 2004, however, and I built that without NLS, so I can't comment from personal experience. By the way, if anyone is interested in doing translations for lynx, be sure to first read the information from the translation project web page http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/translation/;, then sign up to be part of the translation team. Doug -- Doug Kaufman Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Stegozor wrote: On 7/28/06, Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One more thing: As you may have guessed, English is not my native tongue: in exchange, I'd gladly do my best to translate any Lynx related file into French and/or Turkish. Just realise that you'll have to cope with a newbie and that I'll need time. Apart from that, feel free to send me a message if a translation would be useful. I'd be more than pleased if I could help the project in some way. It would be useful to have an up-to-date translation for fr.po (French), since that's been neglected. The Turkish (tr.po) is more current, though none of us can gauge its quality. Er...Firstly, I hope you really noticed that you'll have to cope with a newbie who had difficulties to find a Windows version of Lynx. As for the po files, there are two fr.po in http://lynx.isc.org/po/ . Which one should I pick up? Where's the 'authoritative' po file? Is it http://lynx.isc.org/po/lynx.po ? If so, it seems quite old (19990525). As for the tr.po, I just couldn't find it. There's a current one in the source tarball. The other files in http://lynx.isc.org/po/ are just for reference (someone else was using them). I update the line-numbers, etc., in the ones in the source tarballs (e.g., in http://lynx.isc.org/current/) periodically, and incorporate new po-files as they are available. -- Thomas E. Dickey http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing
Walter Ian Kaye dixit: There are no links for Mac OS X either. Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx? This cries for a lynx port in the MirPorts Framework. //mirabile -- I believe no one can invent an algorithm. One just happens to hit upon it when God enlightens him. Or only God invents algorithms, we merely copy them. If you don't believe in God, just consider God as Nature if you won't deny existence. -- Coywolf Qi Hunt ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The MingW version of lynx which I have been porting (but not yet distributing) is compiled with NLS and seems to work fine. I linked it with gettext-0.11.5 which I ported to MingW last year. I generally compile MingW programs under Cygwin with -mno-cygwin and don't have any experience with the native MingW MSYS environment. May I ask you the concrete steps to compile Lynx under Cygwin with -mno-cygwin? Do you mean running configure make on Cygwin bash? I've tried these but I'm not satisfied yet. (1) using makelynx.bat on command prompt (2) configure make under MSYS envrironment (1) It rebuilds all whenever I run the batch file because it doesn't check the timestamp like make command does. (2) I can build it with slang but can't with pdcurses. I want to use pdcurses because I can change screen size only with pdcurses. So I'm very curious to know how you compile Lynx. Thanks in advance. -- Takeshi Hataguchi E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing
Lynxlet, while not ssl-capable, is an excellent and very quick OS X app which obviates the need to install XCode since it just unpacks and runs in Terminal. Walter Ian Kaye dixit: There are no links for Mac OS X either. Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx? I believe there's a 2.8.5 via Fink. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing
At 12:44a + 07/28/2006, Thorsten Glaser didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: Walter Ian Kaye dixit: There are no links for Mac OS X either. Oops. Does Mac OSX come shipped without lynx? This cries for a lynx port in the MirPorts Framework. //mirabile I think the original public beta back in 1999 (or whenever it was) may have had lynx, but the shipping versions never have. (Do you suppose it had anything to do with the 1997 Microsoft five-year agreement for IE as default browser?) ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: GPL (was Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing)
That would, I guess, be UKansas and a few individuals. Including important contributors who are no longer traceable, like Foteos. A long time ago the FSF wanted Lynx to have the copyrights assigned to single organisation. It couldn't be done then, because it was impossible to track down everyone and get agreement. You would also have to remove GPLed code from other libraries, e.g. is GNU gettext being used for the internationalisation? Once you had permission from all the copyright owners of GPLed code, you wouldn't actually need to remove the GPL; what you would need to do is give an additional permission on all the GPLed code to allow it to be linked with OpenSSL. The conflict that arises is because OpenSSL imposes an additional restriction (an advertising clause). The GPL doesn't allow, for reasons wholly predictable from the policy behind it, additional restrictions, but it allows additional permissions. Incidentally, I suspect an anti-FSF or anti-copyright line from one contributor to this thread. For clarification of what I've written, there is no doubt that distributing an OpenSSL binary for Windows is a copyright infringement. The area where they may (but also might not) be a conflict between letter and spirit is where either an incomplete product is supplied, with the intention that the recipient links with an incompatible library, or a complete product is provided but with such a poor implementation of the library that most reasonable people would be forced to replace it with the incompatible one. Where one usually sees this brinkmanship is when someone wants to make a profit from open source code without contributing back fully. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] text browsing
Debatable. Getting a binary up this quickly is quite convenient. To add any ssl functionality to lynx requires a compile and always has in my experience. Even without ssl you still get that 'real view' of the web, scriptable, customizable and fast. On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: A non-SSL Lynx is a crippled Lynx. Can't even log in to Yahoo, let alone do any online shopping. Nice PoC, though. ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
Re: [Lynx-dev] Windows Lynx style sheet destroyed after using external
In a recent note, Lawrence Armstrong said: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 23:34:13 -0400 Just make the following changes to your Lynx.cfg. It's been quite a = while=20 ago, but I believe these were the only changes necessary for it to work. = You basically define the mime type and tell it what viewer app you = want to=20 handle it. Hope it works for you. I just tested it with a few shoutcast stations. SUFFIX:.ram:audio/x-pn-realaudio VIEWER:audio/x-pn-realaudio:start realplay.exe %s By analogy, on Solaris 2.8 with Lynx 2.8.6dev.17, I created a cgi-bin script which did Content-type: text/x-streaming then mostly a od -x /dev/random I added to lynx.cfg VIEWER:text/x-streaming:/bin/less When I connect to my cgi-bin script, all I get is a progress odometer. I stopped Lynx when it reached 25 Mb. What am I doing wrong? By contrast, when I do: lynx -source same.script.cgi | /bin/less it pages with less, as I'd expect. Does it make a difference to specify SUFFIX? -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL ___ Lynx-dev mailing list Lynx-dev@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lynx-dev
