Re: [Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 01:48:12PM -0400, Mouse wrote:
> My apologies to most listmembers for the noise; the usual address to
> reach the listowner doesn't seem to be working (see below).
> 
> I tried to send mail to lynx-dev's owner- address, raising a
> consistent malformatting issue in list mail (see below), and got a
> bounce indicating even more issues.  So I'm wondering if I could get
> whoever runs the list to (a) deal with the issue I tried to raise and

at that level, you'd have to open a ticker on https://savannah.gnu.org/

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[Lynx-dev] (a) list mail format error; (b) broken owner- address

2021-08-12 Thread Mouse
My apologies to most listmembers for the noise; the usual address to
reach the listowner doesn't seem to be working (see below).

I tried to send mail to lynx-dev's owner- address, raising a
consistent malformatting issue in list mail (see below), and got a
bounce indicating even more issues.  So I'm wondering if I could get
whoever runs the list to (a) deal with the issue I tried to raise and
(b) fix (or at least get fixed) the issue that prevented the mail from
getting through?

For (a), here's the content I tried to send:


I've been noticing, for a while now, that lynx-dev list mail has been
coming in with a minor format violation.

Specifically, it shows up as (to quote a recent list mail)

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64

but, while the base64 encoding is valid, the decoded content is not
valid text/plain; it represents line breaks as bare 0x0a octets,
without any preceding 0x0d octets.  (See RFC2046 4.1.1.)

I would, of course, recommend you fix or replace whatever is
responsible for this malformatting.


For (b), the bounce I got says

>- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
> owner-lynx-...@nongnu.org
> 
>- Transcript of session follows -
> ... while talking to eggs.gnu.org.:
> >>> RCPT To:
> <<< 550-Verification failed for 
> <<< 550-Could not complete sender verify callout for 
> .
> <<< 550-The mail server(s) for the domain may be temporarily unreachable, or
> <<< 550-they may be permanently unreachable from this server. In the latter 
> case,
> <<< 550-you need to change the address or create an MX record for its domain
> <<< 550-if it is supposed to be generally accessible from the Internet.
> <<< 550-Talk to your mail administrator for details.
> <<< 550-Callout verification failed:
> <<< 550 550 Unrouteable address
> 550 owner-lynx-...@nongnu.org... User unknown

The problem with this is twofold: first, there's the problem with the
whole paradigm, in that it farms out part of spam filtering to entities
with no particular incentive to do it the way eggs.gnu.org wants it
done; second, there's the implementation problem, in that the verify
code doesn't seem to know how to speak SMTP.  It dropped the connection
slightly over 60 seconds into my banner delay, a point at which any
client-side timeout SHOULD be at least five minutes (RFC2821 4.5.3.2):

2021-08-12 13:28:01.51: [RCTkjr.Sghk.Mgl] (11069) connection from 
209.51.188.92/35416
[...]
2021-08-12 13:29:01.54: [RCTkjr.Sghk.Mgl] ident lookup aborted by client input
2021-08-12 13:29:01.54: [RCTkjr.Sghk.Mgl] drop delay 60.025715
2021-08-12 13:29:01.54: [RCTkjr.Sghk.Mgl] unexpected SMTP connection drop

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Re: [Lynx-dev] The alts for images in newyorker.com

2021-08-12 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Chuck Martin via Lynx-dev dixit:

>Unfortunately, graphical browsers generally display alt text when you
>mouse over an image, with the result that most web pages that provide

No, they don’t, which is VERY unfortunate.

The mouseover display thing is the title attribute, not the alt
attribute, and alt attributes are VERY hard to access in GUI browsers.

bye,
//mirabilos
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Re: [Lynx-dev] The alts for images in newyorker.com

2021-08-12 Thread russellbell
Quoth Thorsten Glaser:

'Aren't they [alt tags] normally brown, like image links in *
mode?'
No, nor are 'image links in * mode' - they're rendered as
regular links.  Are they for you?  Most other colors work.
Do you use slang for color?

russell bell

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